The skill of Deontay Wilder

As Southpaw posted above... He was resistant. Yes, it is a shame. I partly agree. Wilder took up the sport late and only to make money. He just didn’t have enough time to become a well-rounded and scientific fighter. Becoming an all-time great and a Hall of fame inductee was the least of his concerns. I don’t believe even in his wildest dreams that he would have become as successful at it as he was. Boxing was his calling card all along.

Deontay Wilder arguably had the hardest hitting straight right hand in all of heavyweight history. However, that is all he had, he had no left hook or uppercut, and his jab was mediocre at best . He couldn't string combinations, or throw from unorthodox angles. He had heart and a winners spirit, but his power made his career. Toward the end when he became gun shy it spelled the end of his career.

A prime Wilder had supernatural athleticism and power in his right hand. Had he only developed and learned the fundamentals of the game much earlier in his life; He would have been a complete fighter. We could very well be talking about one of the top three heavyweight boxing champions of all-time and one of the top 10 fighters of all-time. He could hit but he just didn't know how to box behind a good jab. As Southpaw posted above... He was resistant. Yes, it is a shame.

A prime Wilder had supernatural athleticism and power in his right hand. Had he only developed and learned the fundamentals of the game much earlier in his life; He would have been a complete fighter. We could very well be talking about one of the top three heavyweight boxing champions of all-time and one of the top 10 fighters of all-time. He could hit but he just didn't know how to box behind a good jab.

:lol1: Wilder might have been a type of prodigy, and while I would never compare him to Jones and Ali, both men did things in the ring that would get most men brained. They made it work with unique physical abilities... Jones coming in with a double hook, often even throwing the second to the body... Ali moving straight back! Deontay believed so in his own mind and didn't need to run for stamina because of this belief DEONTAY WILDER EXPLAINS WHY HE DOESNT JOG (AT ALL) TALKS ABOUT FIGHTING INSIDE FIGHTERS @ 6:40 ​ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5NcXMw1zxU Many fighters treat it as a job. Deontay was the type who poured all of his emotions into the game 'You don't understand': Deontay Wilder breaks down in speech on dangers of boxing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B29oNj6v4rM he's known for his knockouts, but this is what made Deontay immortal forever apart of the culture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4W4Hn_i8XQ

It's crazy how threads about Wilder devolve into all kinds of bizarre stuff. I tend to agree with OP. Can't help but wonder how things would have gone if Wilder had started younger with a better coach, and had developed the attitude to work hard and keep learning. Imagine if he had a left hand to match the right. Just that would have made a massive difference, and he already had a very respectable career if you're not locked into being a hater. I will say that his lack of technical skill coupled with the bizarre power kind of make him the attraction that he is. He can be getting outboxed and clowned and then end the fight by devastating KO, even in the last round. That vulnerability and uncertainty is part and parcel of what makes him entertaining to watch. I call his power bizarre because there's a lot he does that's just technically wrong, and I'm convinced that his lack of skill means he's actually leaving power on the table; probably quite a lot of it, TBH, and considering that he's got one touch KO power as is, that's kind of scary. :lol1: Wilder might have been a type of prodigy, and while I would never compare him to Jones and Ali, both men did things in the ring that would get most men brained. They made it work with unique physical abilities... Jones coming in with a double hook, often even throwing the second to the body... Ali moving straight back!

It's crazy how threads about Wilder devolve into all kinds of bizarre stuff. I tend to agree with OP. Can't help but wonder how things would have gone if Wilder had started younger with a better coach, and had developed the attitude to work hard and keep learning. Imagine if he had a left hand to match the right. Just that would have made a massive difference, and he already had a very respectable career if you're not locked into being a hater. I will say that his lack of technical skill coupled with the bizarre power kind of make him the attraction that he is. He can be getting outboxed and clowned and then end the fight by devastating KO, even in the last round. That vulnerability and uncertainty is part and parcel of what makes him entertaining to watch. I call his power bizarre because there's a lot he does that's just technically wrong, and I'm convinced that his lack of skill means he's actually leaving power on the table; probably quite a lot of it, TBH, and considering that he's got one touch KO power as is, that's kind of scary.

Subordinates ...seriously ??? That's like a woman saying she's so grateful her current man doesn't beat her as much as her last. Do better!!! Always do better!

I’ve never seen power like it. As Joe Rogan said, it’s like he has magic in his right hand. Technically speaking the irony is, guys that seem to "just touch" the opponent on a KO are usually heavy handed hitters, like Foreman. Tyson and Wilder both have real explosive speed and manage the same effect.

Still, By the measure of the vast majority of historians, No global power has Ever treated their subordinates so well; and should "The Chinese Century" ever actually begin; they're not going to either. Subordinates ...seriously ??? That's like a woman saying she's so grateful her current man doesn't beat her as much as her last. Do better!!!

I’ve never seen power like it. As Joe Rogan said, it’s like he has magic in his right hand.

Still, By the measure of the vast majority of historians, No global power has Ever treated their subordinates so well; and should "The Chinese Century" ever actually begin; they're not going to either. One cannot trivialize how important this point is. I grew up with two very smart, well educated parents who protested our wars. My mother had no skin in the game... no son of draft age for the Vietnam war but would tote me on her back to war demonstrations, supporting youn g mothers with kids of draft age... I still believe that these wars were horrid. My dad was a Marine second world war who saw action... I was taught to love and respect veterans and that our job was to protest to protect them, never to recriminate any decision a young person made... Years later and I have two sons, one is a Marine the other is very high level Army Intelligence (George Carlin: "If there is such an oxymoron":lol1:), He cannot even tell me and his mother where he is...:dunno:, but given the way the world has changed? I really feel like we have to be aggressive. I really saw no conflict when my two boys wanted to act, I mean they got their educations (One is a college graduate, the other doing college)... Which was my one request. Theworld has changed and it tells any reasonable person that Murica's imperalism is a lot better option than P utin or Ji... People HAVE to understand that both countries, unless they change leadership, are hell bent on our destruction. It gets worse the further the rabbit hole ascends, but if China ever attained a high standard of living for her entire population, the world would crater. It is sad...Now imagine India as well. Unfortunately until we can all cooperate and make the world great for all, America is a resource of great value.

Thanks Uncle Sam but when you get drunk on power and start shïtting on people, you're a cünt. Calling it how i see it. Still, By the measure of the vast majority of historians, No global power has Ever treated their subordinates so well; and should "The Chinese Century" ever actually begin; they're not going to either.

America is an offshoot of British civilization that surpassed it countless global powers throughout history have exploited foreign lands causing death destruct misery suffering exploiting foreign countries isn't exclusive to their American Empire​ GTFOH!:crackhead US civilization as you know it was made by those whities who moved across the ocean Actually, my own opinion has to do with my own experiences. You can only go so far alone... In a business you need cooperation and delegation, contribution to really break it out. Murica is what she is because of our immigration policy, as stated, when it is adhered to properly: We are a melting pot where immigrants come contribute their ways and also become proudly Muricans. So we get all the wonderful ways of the man y immigrants to add to our history and traditions. Most countries are too insular with immigration policy, they encourage people to retain their ways with no real obligation to become a citizen otherwise. Like Canada for example which has a "patchwork" policy, where every group retains its ways as part of a whole... Not Murica! The best immigrants want to do both: hold and share their sacred traditions to make the whole better.

Big Shout out to our board philosopher billeau2, and the erudite Marchegiano for keeping the imbeciles in check. Too harsh? Those guys don't have the wherewithal to notice that reliably planting a knockout blow on the kisser of a professional athlete who has trained daily since the age of 12 to avoid such a punch......is a skill...and one that pays millions and millions. These "experts" on judging the quality of such an athlete. Lol. GTFOH As to the sidebar discussion about the status and global influence of The United States of America; I'm inclined to recuse myself, except to point out that only about 4-6% of the enslaved Africans transported across the Atlantic during the transatlantic slave trade arrived in North America. The vast majority were sent to Brazil and the Caribbean. This means about 388,000 out of an estimated 12 million people were sent to North America. That, was a European thing. Not an American thing so much. Beyond that stunning fact; I can only add electricity, flight, the phonograph, the computer, the internet, GPS, the lightbulb, digital visual interface, flight, refrigeration, the polio vaccine, pressure canning, data storage, the telegraph, anesthesia, steelmaking, asphalt, reinforced concrete, vulcanized rubber, the sewing machine, the cotton gin, the manufacturing assembly line, interplanetary space travel, the telephone, radio, the transistor, air conditioning, germ theory, oil drilling, oil refining, recorded sound, the steam turbine and, well.....most everything significant that separates modern man from **** neanderthalensis (Neanderthals) and **** heidelbergensis. That and since the 1880's the single wealthy and powerful protector of the tenants of the Magna Carta. Call us when you need us, you ungrateful wretches. .....more or less. Let's keep it light & breezy fellers. Thanks Uncle Sam but when you get drunk on power and start shïtting on people, you're a cünt. Calling it how i see it.

Ringo, brah i'd support boycotting American **** in Europe. I didn't say you should buy McD. I said since y'all do it is an American world. You don't need to be grateful. You can be bitter. I'd get that. America is more than the men who made a nation. We were here first. I'm more American than the ****ing "fore fathers" bro. My people been here thousands not hundred of years. Don't call me them, it's super mean and you hurt me. Even if you didn't know better now I'm sad for the ancestors. I'm more the Carls Jr guy and i ain't even bitter, just sad for the ancestors also. Peace on out wit ya bad self!

Wilder just started boxing too late in life.

He fought absolute trash, there’s never been a worse HW champ resume. And he only ever held one belt, won against a fat piece of trash Stiverne. He’s one of the worst world champion HW’s in the history of boxing. The dude lost easily to Fury, Zhang, Parker the only 3 decent fighters he ever fought. Where was his power in those fights? He can knockout trash and bums which isn’t impressive to me. Valuev had a comparably bad resume. His best wins were gift decisions against Larry Donald and John Ruiz. So he should've never had a belt in the first place.

Oh that's rich. American culture is a pisstake of Euro with some slavery, dispossessed Natives and Hispanic culture thrown in. Fück Starbucks and McDonalds and every other brand And the world is supposed to be forever grateful and bend the knee to American exceptionalism...sorry champ but go fück yourself!America is an offshoot of British civilization that surpassed it This post indicates the strength of your US-materialist mindset: i.e. the commercial appeal of something is indicative of its artistic value. Americans like you know the price of everything and the value of nothing, which is part of the reason your political rulers have felt comfortable trampling over people in Latin America and the Middle East because of resources and the needs of your multinationals.countless global powers throughout history have exploited foreign lands causing death destruct misery suffering exploiting foreign countries isn't exclusive to their American Empire​ America is more than the men who made a nation. We were here first. I'm more American than the ****ing "fore fathers" bro. My people been here thousands not hundred of years. Don't call me them, it's super mean and you hurt me. Even if you didn't know better now I'm sad for the ancestors. GTFOH!:crackhead US civilization as you know it was made by those whities who moved across the ocean

Four. Four times. Flash knockdown in the first fight, a near death experience knockdown in the 12th round of the 1st, an imitation of Joe Frazier galloping in place after a flush right hand in the third fight, and a follow-up knockdown following the previous one. A lot of people like to say Fury steamrolled Wilder, but they definitely shaved years off of each other. If not the entire trilogy, definitely the third one. Fury walked through hell to get those wins/draw. Well, this is true and probably why Fury looked more crud pie than you would have expected for Ngannou and who knows, it could of assisted Usyk with his two wins. I'm not saying he didn't put on a master class, because he did, however no way was Fury the same after going 3 fights with Wilder where he was dropped multiple times.