if u watch the fight without knowing who's who, who's A or B, and with no biased commentary from the atrocious Sergio Mora... you would give the fight to Scull. lopsided too
an opponent has no responsibility to make himself hittable. and it's not against the rules to utilize every inch of the ring.
the guy who looked a pure mess and utterly confused was Canelo. he couldn't figure this guy out after a few rounds? he couldn't cut the ring with a chainsaw.
Canelo was outboxed and made to look like an amateur. any boxer with two brain cells would cut the ring, set traps and knock this guy out.
the one who should be getting the ridicule is Canelo. you fight a guy who you already know is gonna move and box. and yet you come in with zero strategy to stop that?
he claims he wants guys who simply stand in front of him and exchange... yet he's ducking Benavidez like dracula ducks the sun.
Canelo is all smoke and mirrors and Crawford is gonna knock him out. and retire him. good riddance.
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Well Scull almost fought an identical fight to Devin Haney and lost. Devin won by a landslide while Scull lost unanimously to Canelo
Even as at least in my judgement; Jose Ramirez outperformed Canelo Alvarez. So what was the difference? Why was Canelo given the decision while Ramirez did not?
They fought basically and identically the same fight against so-called runners However, only one ended up winning their fight.
the difference is devin Haney landed all the hard impact shots and in the Canelo fight Canelo landed all the hard impactful shots.. devin fought like a guy who was scared to get hit, scull fought like a guy there to survive.. on top of that Canelo held scull to 19% also devin outlanded Ramires by 20 punches while scull got outlanded.
only thing similar is both Devin and scull moved way to much
Even though no human of this Earth can comprehend the answer, but, how does it feel to constantly be the smartest man in the room ?
The scientifical facts you share, free of charge......
It's a mixture of being an honour and a burden. Nash has the advantage of 120% of his brain working 120% of the time, so not only does his full brain work all at the same time, all at once, including the AI section of his brain, he also has an extra 20% of brain, so when you add it all up, that's a lot of brainpower that God has trusted the Great Nash with.
You can also think of it like this, take the top 20 superheroes of all time, combine all of their strengths, and then, and only then, do you get close to what Nash is. Dr. Nash Out - His Majesty
Yes, and there was no invisible work like Tyson Fury in the Usyk rematch. Though, now with Canelo's evident decline and being a long way off his prime stint as Green Nelo, I can't see how he could beat Next-Gen Jake Paul. Dr. Nash out - His Majesty
Even though no human of this Earth can comprehend the answer, but, how does it feel to constantly be the smartest man in the room ?
The scientifical facts you share, free of charge......
A boxer eventually has to score via punches landed, doe :lol1: !
Yes, and there was no invisible work like Tyson Fury in the Usyk rematch. Though, now with Canelo's evident decline and being a long way off his prime stint as Green Nelo, I can't see how he could beat Next-Gen Jake Paul. Dr. Nash out - His Majesty
I fell asleep in that fight. I would never rewatch it again to see if Scull truly won. I just don't care. Canelo is boring these days. His style is boring. He's lost the will to give fans what they really want to see. Yeah, Crawford is coming up and it'll be one to watch finally just because it involves Crawford too, but otherwise Canelo fights have been nearly a chore these days just to get through. He doesn't give a f**k about opinions and just wants to continue banking ridiculous paychecks for putting on mediocre performances against a lot of opponents nobody wanted him to fight.
That was well said! I couldn't have said it better myself! :usa2:
I’m genuinely tempted to watch and compare the fights again but…oof. Even I, who don’t mind rewatching and re-scoring fights, find that as an uphill battle.
I watched both fights live and saw Haney loosened up slightly midway through the fight. But again, they were both God awful. I guess I’ll have to throw myself on that grenade and rewatch them, as much as it would kill me.
I love Teddy but sometimes he has some hot takes. If I bent over backwards and gave rounds to Scull…the absolute best he’s doing is five rounds. How anyone would get to anything beyond that is asinine. And I’m not saying Canelo had a masterful performance either. Just saying what a ****show it would be if Scull had walked with all the belts after such a performance.
The equivalent of turning in an assignment where the criteria states certain milestones to be achieved and in every category he’s done 1 below the bare minimum and he’s looking to skate with a 69.5% C grade.Well Scull almost fought an identical fight to Devin Haney and lost. Devin won by a landslide while Scull lost unanimously to Canelo
Even as at least in my judgement; Jose Ramirez outperformed Canelo Alvarez. So what was the difference? Why was Canelo given the decision while Ramirez did not?
They fought basically and identically the same fight against so-called runners However, only one ended up winning their fight.
You are not wrong! There are lot of boxing fans and boxing experts alike who feel the exact same way. They believed the fight should have been ruled a Draw or that Williams Scull just barely nudged it by a point, one round or two. All the way from Teddy Atlas to Amir Khan. They both saw a William Scull victory.
I love Teddy but sometimes he has some hot takes. If I bent over backwards and gave rounds to Scull…the absolute best he’s doing is five rounds. How anyone would get to anything beyond that is asinine. And I’m not saying Canelo had a masterful performance either. Just saying what a shitshow it would be if Scull had walked with all the belts after such a performance.
The equivalent of turning in an assignment where the criteria states certain milestones to be achieved and in every category he’s done 1 below the bare minimum and he’s looking to skate with a 69.5% C grade.
I can’t understand people that actually think Scull won last Saturday.
I heard an interview with Eddie Hearn that he was sitting next to Crawford ringside for Canelo-Scull and he was chatting it up with him and Crawford said he had Scull up during the fight. He didn’t specify up until when (or if Crawford had him winning), but I also was listening to a live reaction of some boxing heads on YouTube (Tha Boxing Voice) and they were watching it the whole time saying that Scull was taking the straps and that he was winning.
I’m sorry…what?
Lara has a Cuban style as well but he at least stood his ground occasionally and landed meaningful punches hence the reason why a segment of fans think he won, and it was a split decision win for Canelo. Even Rigondeaux who’s been known to stink out the joint Occasionally was a VERY sharp puncher and counter-puncher. Scull shat the bed. With that performance…he’s going the way of Joshua Clottey after the Pacquiao fight…never ever ever on a televised fight ever again.
But Scull was terrible. Canelo was at least pushing the fight, and his punches were actually more meaningful than Scull’s. If Canelo doesn’t press, there is no fight.
Even Ajagba who moved around a lot still planted his feet occasionally and scored something eye-catching.
That fight was as if Scull watched the last three rounds of De La Hoya-Trinidad, somebody on his team went, “Bet you can’t do that for the full twelve.” and Scull said, “Hold my beer.”
Lol complete troll post
Scoring criteria
Ring generalship
Effective aggression
Defense
Clean punches
Scull did NONE of those and lost every round.
Constantly running so that you're always out of range doesn't even get you defense points. Thats for defense in range.
if u watch the fight without knowing who's who, who's A or B, and with no biased commentary from the atrocious Sergio Mora... you would give the fight to Scull. lopsided too
an opponent has no responsibility to make himself hittable. and it's not against the rules to utilize every inch of the ring.
the guy who looked a pure mess and utterly confused was Canelo. he couldn't figure this guy out after a few rounds? he couldn't cut the ring with a chainsaw.
Canelo was outboxed and made to look like an amateur. any boxer with two brain cells would cut the ring, set traps and knock this guy out.
the one who should be getting the ridicule is Canelo. you fight a guy who you already know is gonna move and box. and yet you come in with zero strategy to stop that?
he claims he wants guys who simply stand in front of him and exchange... yet he's ducking Benavidez like dracula ducks the sun.
Canelo is all smoke and mirrors and Crawford is gonna knock him out. and retire him. good riddance.
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You are not alone or wrong in your assessment. Many boxing fans and experts alike have expressed the same sentiment as you. That William Scull had indeed won that fight.
Many believed that William Scull either just barely nudged it by a single point or perhaps a round or two. While others believed that it should have been scored a Draw but none of them had Saul Canelo Alvarez winning the fight.
This was coming all the way from Teddy Atlas to Amir Khan. They both saw a William Scull victory.
Didn't one Judge score it 115-113? So atleast one judge kinda agreed with you. If I didn't have a 25 leg parley to hit. I maybe could see this fight being a draw, both of them didn't do anything. Lara definitely should had gotten a draw.
But thank God canelo won and my parley lives on.
if u watch the fight without knowing who's who, who's A or B, and with no biased commentary from the atrocious Sergio Mora... you would give the fight to Scull. lopsided too
an opponent has no responsibility to make himself hittable. and it's not against the rules to utilize every inch of the ring.
the guy who looked a pure mess and utterly confused was Canelo. he couldn't figure this guy out after a few rounds? he couldn't cut the ring with a chainsaw.
Canelo was outboxed and made to look like an amateur. any boxer with two brain cells would cut the ring, set traps and knock this guy out.
the one who should be getting the ridicule is Canelo. you fight a guy who you already know is gonna move and box. and yet you come in with zero strategy to stop that?
he claims he wants guys who simply stand in front of him and exchange... yet he's ducking Benavidez like dracula ducks the sun.
Canelo is all smoke and mirrors and Crawford is gonna knock him out. and retire him. good riddance.
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You are not wrong! There are lot of boxing fans and boxing experts alike who feel the exact same way. They believed the fight should have been ruled a Draw or that Williams Scull just barely nudged it by a point, one round or two. All the way from Teddy Atlas to Amir Khan. They both saw a William Scull victory.
I'll go in there an knock Canelo tf out if you give the the opprotunity
LOLOLOLOLOL. Clenelo is shut and has fought no one his size or in equal conditions, wake up.