For all the people that have Inoue at #1 P4P

Believe it or not, boxers get dropped sometimes, even the great one. Infact, almost all of them do. It's a sport where you are punching each other. He got up and stopped him, that's what's important.

Inoue likely underestimated Cardenas until he got clipped, then he woke up.

When you’re an offensive fighter you are going to be caught from time to time. One my all time faves Tito Trinidad used to get caught ..............

Agree with both of the above...he's a pressure fighter and a KO artist so will always leave openings plus we can't forget he's fighting in his fourth weight class. Anyway, it was a flash knockdown as he wasn't badly hurt and continued to stalk his opponent.

When you’re an offensive fighter you are going to be caught from time to time.

He got up which in itself was impressive AF , as Cardenas landed that shot flush ...He then went on to stop Cardenas who was very gamed . Getting dropped in the sport of boxing can happen to anybody .

And Usyk and Crawford have never even fought a HOF. Whats your point? If you don't think Tyson Fury will make the HOF you are fooling yourself. You don't have to agree with it, but he is a lock for upstate New York

For the record, I don't think being dropped in a fight has anything to do with being in P4P. It has to do with getting the "W" at the end of the day. How you get the "W" and assuming your style can beat any other style regardless of weight class is more what it is about. When fighters can actually move in different weight classes to prove that they can further solidifies their mythical P4P ranking.

He's lucky his weightclass lacks any p4p fighters. Nakatani is the only p4p fighter within proximity of his weightclass and they won't be fighting until next year. When's the last time he fought a p4p fighter? Fulton? He was never in the p4p rankings. Donaire? Last I check, Donaire was not in the p4p rankings when they fought. The last time Donaire was in the p4p rankings was in 2013. Inoue fought him in 2019. Donaire was 6 years removed from the p4p rankings by then. He's gonna be in trouble soon because he walks around at 140 but cuts to 122. He's not getting any younger. Look at this casual talking about P4P and sht lmfao.

Who cares about P4P. They've had Tank on the P4P lists, that says everything you need to know.

You're just a forum imbecile who thinks being negative makes you look smarter than everyone rather than just a resentful fool. I don't care about P4P, he's defending an undisputed championship regularly and that's a great thing. If you prefer to watch Ryan Garcia and Teofimo Lopez argue on Twitter then you don't need to be here. You have down syndrome. Loma walks around at the same weight.

Smarter to market those fake P4P rankings and tap into that big Japan market beating on up and comers in a shallow division walking around as a junior welter. You're just a forum imbecile who thinks being negative makes you look smarter than everyone rather than just a resentful fool. I don't care about P4P, he's defending an undisputed championship regularly and that's a great thing. If you prefer to watch Ryan Garcia and Teofimo Lopez argue on Twitter then you don't need to be here.

This is what happens when you're active and fight regularly against the best. Would you prefer he be like the US fighters who fight once or less a year and call themselves P4P? Smarter to market those fake P4P rankings and tap into that big Japan market beating on up and comers in a shallow division walking around as a junior welter.

This is what happens when you're active and fight regularly against the best. Would you prefer he be like the US fighters who fight once or less a year and call themselves P4P?

Spence is definitely not first ballot But like I said, he'll eventually get in There are fighters inducted that are undeserving but get in due to their prolonged stay in the p4p rankings (Hatton, Corrales, etc.) I dont know much about Fury as I dont like him. But Inoue hasn't fought a p4p fighter. Donaire was last in the p4p rankings in 2013. 6 years removed when Inoue fought him. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Ring_pound_for_pound_rankings Fury was in the p4p in 2021. Usyk fought him in 2024. About 3 years removed. Which makes Usyk's case a little bit better i guess? And Fury was undefeated whereas Donaire got slept and schooled already by Walters and Rigo. P4P isn't official. Plenty of organisations have rankings, but it's fantasy stuff. If the argument for legitimacy of one fighter being ranked highly in P4P is that they beat someone else considered a P4P fighter then you see where this falls down, right? How did you rank the other fighter? They're just fighters in the same weight class... and probably one where more fighters get regarded as P4P fighters. There are plenty of achievements to judge a fighter on without making things up. Otherwise why stop at just comparing weight classes? Why not include women? Fk it, get some paralympians in there.

He is overrated the guys he's fighting aren't much good , that's not his fault cause the weight classes are weak but the one time he fought a fighter anyone had seen around p4p rankings at some point in their career he struggled, and that fighter was around 10 years past his prime... I'm sorry you can throw all the rankings at me you want but these guys he has been fighting are not very good Smarter to market those fake P4P rankings and tap into that big Japan market beating on up and comers in a shallow division walking around as a junior welter.

The Ring p4p rankings https://ringmagazine.com/en/pound-for-pound/men Wikipedia displays the past timeline of ring p4p rankings as well https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...pound_rankings https://tbrb.org/p4p I actually prefer this one as it has Teofimo instead of Devin, but again it's subjective. I think a P4P top 15-20 list would stop most arguments. That's why I like to use the phrase "P4P-caliber" because being outside of the top 10 doesn't mean a fighter isn't capable or doesn't fit a legitimate criteria/rubric.

When was a P4P #1 ever downed by a part time Doordash driver ? The hatred on this one is ..... What is your list?

Maybe inoue gets dropped too as he feels too superior and is complacent. I mean if inoue just tried outpointing him inoue could ve done that safely without being dropped. I mean if usyk went into a Josh and fury fight feeling so superior and complacent it mightve ended badly That might have been more believable if Inoue had done anything other than beating a near 40 y/o

Haha...inoue's defence is shaky against a guy that is not that good, and that guy has so many flaws, leaving his body open. I am not into pound for pound lists, but inoue can never be no.1 with that type of performance. Usyk right now is the man due to what he accomplished. Yes, usyk is deserving other than that heavyweights aren't usually seen as pf p fighters though