Man lol. How you gonna discredit manny? I believe he started at 105 bro. Took out morales Barrera JMM Margarito cotto old ODLH hatton and then turned back the clock to beat an undefeated champion in Keith Thurman. You trying to compare bootsy to ATGs over and over but it don’t stick lol. ATGs don’t get emailed titles and ATGs don’t duck big fights. He can unify to indisputable WW champion all he wants no one cares. No one watched the Stan fight. No one will watch him fight 2 other even lesser known guys one who’s already been KOd by a LW and beat cleanly by washed up Thurman
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While I do acknowledge his great win over Thurman, I discredit his dubious 150 Ibs catchweight fight for a vacant title against a coming off a spectacular KO loss Margarito for a “record 8 division title”. That statement is very self-explanatory.
There is also the 145 Ibs catchweight fight for a WW title against Cotto. I could go on and on but those two will suffice.
Boots is capable of unifying 147, 154 and 160. He is capable of being the only man in history to unify those three divisions. And just like Manny, he gets anointed an ATG but you’ll have a problem with it if it does happen. If it’s good for Manny, it’s gotta be good for anyone else.
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Please quote me where I called you dumb.
I already agreed with you that WW division is the worst we’ve ever seen. If Boots is staying at 147, he’s only doing so to unify. Once again, while the trinkets mean zilch to you and I, for marketing purposes and historical records, “the 2nd man to unify 147 division” is a selling point.
Saudi Arabia will pay big money to stage such mismatches. Somehow, boxers and fans from other parts of the world put Americans on lofty pedestals. Do you recall when Broner was rumored to fight in the UK and how the UK fans kept raving about him being an American champ or former champ?
Perfect example is Pacqiao - dude is revered for being the “only 8 division champ in history” but when you slice and dice that record, it’s a joke of a resume with some dubious catchweights to add to the 8 division BS.
The business side of boxing will never be a thing to admire but it is what it is.
Man lol. How you gonna discredit manny? I believe he started at 105 bro. Took out morales Barrera JMM Margarito cotto old ODLH hatton and then turned back the clock to beat an undefeated champion in Keith Thurman. You trying to compare bootsy to ATGs over and over but it don’t stick lol. ATGs don’t get emailed titles and ATGs don’t duck big fights. He can unify to indisputable WW champion all he wants no one cares. No one watched the Stan fight. No one will watch him fight 2 other even lesser known guys one who’s already been KOd by a LW and beat cleanly by washed up Thurman
You’re the one that called me dumb and said I looked ****** cause I didn’t put much weight on bootsys win. I’m just telling you it wasn’t some amazing win against an elite opponent. Stannaonis has never even fought an elite fighter. Neither has bootsy. I told u Stan was the only semi respectable fight for him at 147. Fair, he won it impressively. Now he’s trying to take a step down in competition by fighting barrios and Norman lmao. Barrios already lost to Thurman who’s probably about the 8th or 9th best fighter at 154. Stan never fought anybody in his entire career. I mean it’s sad to see talent squandered like this. I rate Vergil above bootsy cause 1. Bootsy ducked Ortiz 2. Ortiz has fought and beat former champions and title challengers. Bootsy hasn’t even faced a former champion. Stan his best win and he’s an unknown email champ who had never even been in the ring with a world class fighter. Just my observations man
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Please quote me where I called you dumb.
I already agreed with you that WW division is the worst we’ve ever seen. If Boots is staying at 147, he’s only doing so to unify. Once again, while the trinkets mean zilch to you and I, for marketing purposes and historical records, “the 2nd man to unify 147 division” is a selling point.
Saudi Arabia will pay big money to stage such mismatches. Somehow, boxers and fans from other parts of the world put Americans on lofty pedestals. Do you recall when Broner was rumored to fight in the UK and how the UK fans kept raving about him being an American champ or former champ?
Perfect example is Pacqiao - dude is revered for being the “only 8 division champ in history” but when you slice and dice that record, it’s a joke of a resume with some dubious catchweights to add to the 8 division BS.
The business side of boxing will never be a thing to admire but it is what it is.
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You are not answering what I asked you. Where was Bud when he was 27? Did anyone speak of him in the same context we’re speaking of Boots?
I know he was at 135/140. Even after he unified 135 and 140, no one said he was avoiding 147. He just bid his time and today he’s spoken of as an ATG.
Boots is 27 and you are dismissing him outrightly before he’s even 30 years old.
More important, I don’t mind these debates at all, we just have different opinions and no one’s opinion is an absolute truth. All I ask is to keep it civil.
You’re the one that called me dumb and said I looked stupid cause I didn’t put much weight on bootsys win. I’m just telling you it wasn’t some amazing win against an elite opponent. Stannaonis has never even fought an elite fighter. Neither has bootsy. I told u Stan was the only semi respectable fight for him at 147. Fair, he won it impressively. Now he’s trying to take a step down in competition by fighting barrios and Norman lmao. Barrios already lost to Thurman who’s probably about the 8th or 9th best fighter at 154. Stan never fought anybody in his entire career. I mean it’s sad to see talent squandered like this. I rate Vergil above bootsy cause 1. Bootsy ducked Ortiz 2. Ortiz has fought and beat former champions and title challengers. Bootsy hasn’t even faced a former champion. Stan his best win and he’s an unknown email champ who had never even been in the ring with a world class fighter. Just my observations man
Bud was at 135/140 bro. And buds resume ain’t special. Bootsy is avoiding 154 only his nuthiggers are excusing this by claiming he’s “going for greatness” lmao. Sure he is. Greatness by beating Stan barrios and Norman jr? Bwahahaha
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You are not answering what I asked you. Where was Bud when he was 27? Did anyone speak of him in the same context we’re speaking of Boots?
I know he was at 135/140. Even after he unified 135 and 140, no one said he was avoiding 147. He just bid his time and today he’s spoken of as an ATG.
Boots is 27 and you are dismissing him outrightly before he’s even 30 years old.
More important, I don’t mind these debates at all, we just have different opinions and no one’s opinion is an absolute truth. All I ask is to keep it civil.
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Boots was not a title holder at 22 years old. You know this already. Norman and Boots got their belts right after Crawford left the division.
Do you honestly think Spence and Bud wanted to fight Boots 5 years ago?
Speaking of his age, where exactly was Crawford at 27 years old? Was his career better than Boots today?
Were people debating each other endlessly about his perceived greatness? Not at all.
Again, I agree that 147 is a weak division. We’ll just have to wait until 2026 when Boots moves up after cleaning out 147. I do suspect that even when he goes to 154 and cleans it out, you’re still going to find something to criticize
Bud was at 135/140 bro. And buds resume ain’t special. Bootsy is avoiding 154 only his nuthiggers are excusing this by claiming he’s “going for greatness” lmao. Sure he is. Greatness by beating Stan barrios and Norman jr? Bwahahaha
Yes I will. Barrios is a bum and Norman is 22 year old kid who is unknown and green. Why didn’t bootsy go for titles at 22 years old? Why did he wait till he was 27? Why is he trying to fight scrubs and unknowns now when all the action and talent is at 154 where he has had offers? I’m just not impressed with bootsy and let’s be honest Stan quit like a bum
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Boots was not a title holder at 22 years old. You know this already. Norman and Boots got their belts right after Crawford left the division.
Do you honestly think Spence and Bud wanted to fight Boots 5 years ago?
Speaking of his age, where exactly was Crawford at 27 years old? Was his career better than Boots today?
Were people debating each other endlessly about his perceived greatness? Not at all.
Again, I agree that 147 is a weak division. We’ll just have to wait until 2026 when Boots moves up after cleaning out 147. I do suspect that even when he goes to 154 and cleans it out, you’re still going to find something to criticize
My take on Boots trying to be Undisputed in WW. If Boots actually did it after fighting Barros and Norman, he is going to be the Worst Undisputed Champion in 4 Belts Era by far. This is even worse than Crawford's Undisputed run at 140. I see this the same way i see Broner as 4-Weight Division Champion. It is basically just a trinket titles at this point.
Boots taking the best 154 fighters would elevate his Career further than staying on a dead Division.
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Again, I never said Stan was elite. I said he was going to get beat.
2025 is far from over, there are two more belts to be snatched. Violently I might add. Will you still call Boots a hype job?
Again, there is zero reason for us not to be respectful towards one another.
Yes I will. Barrios is a bum and Norman is 22 year old kid who is unknown and green. Why didn’t bootsy go for titles at 22 years old? Why did he wait till he was 27? Why is he trying to fight scrubs and unknowns now when all the action and talent is at 154 where he has had offers? I’m just not impressed with bootsy and let’s be honest Stan quit like a bum
Boots impressed me finally. That said, the clocks ticking and I'm all about action. I hate people overhyping fighters only for them to finally get exposed with the step up. I don't think Ennis has really stepped up yet. At least not at super star level. He needs to get moving, but this helped make me more of a fan because his last outing was dull.
Bro. You’re acting like stannaois is some elite fighter. Dude wasn’t that great. Good solid fighter but he wasn’t a real champion. What do you think the guys at 154 would do to stannois? EXACTLY. So you and your cheerleaders keep acting like you just won the World Series but in reality you just won the little league title kid lol
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Again, I never said Stan was elite. I said he was going to get beat.
2025 is far from over, there are two more belts to be snatched. Violently I might add. Will you still call Boots a hype job?
Again, there is zero reason for us not to be respectful towards one another.
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I’m not sure why you’re calling me out. I’ve been championing Boots ALL the time on this platform. I’ve called out all the guys that said he was going to get beat, embarrassed and even KO’d.
Crickets so far except for LAchargers373 but even he knows what time it is lol.
What did YOU think of Boots’ performance? And if you didn’t like him before, you still think he’s overrated?
Bro. You’re acting like stannaois is some elite fighter. Dude wasn’t that great. Good solid fighter but he wasn’t a real champion. What do you think the guys at 154 would do to stannois? EXACTLY. So you and your cheerleaders keep acting like you just won the World Series but in reality you just won the little league title kid lol
He did what he was supposed to against an inactive email champ. Not impressive. He was a favorite for a reason
Most heavy faves do what they're supposed to do.
Some guys get a pass
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I’m not sure why you’re calling me out. I’ve been championing Boots ALL the time on this platform. I’ve called out all the guys that said he was going to get beat, embarrassed and even KO’d.
Crickets so far except for LAchargers373 but even he knows what time it is lol.
What did YOU think of Boots’ performance? And if you didn’t like him before, you still think he’s overrated?
He did what he was supposed to against an inactive email champ. Not impressive. He was a favorite for a reason
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I’m not sure why you’re calling me out. I’ve been championing Boots ALL the time on this platform. I’ve called out all the guys that said he was going to get beat, embarrassed and even KO’d.
Crickets so far except for LAchargers373 but even he knows what time it is lol.
What did YOU think of Boots’ performance? And if you didn’t like him before, you still think he’s overrated?
Typical. Boots beat one of the current top welterweights impressively and some “fans” have to find a way to sh-t on him.
Guys like Inoue get nothing but praise for beating the top ranked fighters in their division, even if the division is weak. Why the double standards when it comes to Boots Ennis?
Also your hate for Inoue is ridiculously pathetic so I'll just leave the link here where you got verbally bltch slapped by the whole forum with FACTS lmfao loser
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/boxing-forums/non-stop-boxing/32438689-comments-thread-for-naoya-inoue-s-next-fight-is-set-ramon-cardenas-on-may-4-in-las-vegas
Typical. Boots beat one of the current top welterweights impressively and some “fans” have to find a way to sh-t on him.
Guys like Inoue get nothing but praise for beating the top ranked fighters in their division, even if the division is weak. Why the double standards when it comes to Boots Ennis?
Aren't you also critical of crawfords 140 unification? Postal is head and above better than any 147 fighter.
Yet you get on your knees for some pathetic win.
"Bu but he's a champ doe". Says alot about the division
Typical. Boots beat one of the current top welterweights impressively and some “fans” have to find a way to sh-t on him.
Guys like Inoue get nothing but praise for beating the top ranked fighters in their division, even if the division is weak. Why the double standards when it comes to Boots Ennis?