Why did people find Wilder more intimidating than AJ ?

And NOBODY ever ducked Wilder. They all wanted him. Joshua wanted him. Ruiz wanted him, but Wilder ducked saying "Ruiz wanted to price out". Fury came from couch to fight Wilder. Parker said: fine, just do it. Zhang took it when offered. Just stop with that s.hit how was anybody afraid of him. Well hold on now. In fairness to the flawed but nuclear powered Wilder.... Joshua wouldn't go past Wilder's first clean shot and we all know it. Ruiz indeed priced himself out. if he'd wanted Wilder, he could've had him. Fury had two fights between the couch and Wilder. Same as Ali had before meeting HIS epic encounter with Frazier after a similar layoff during his prime. Fury was 100%. Wilder was pushing 39 for the Parker and Zhang fights. they meant very little. Be fair.

Because Joshua has too much soft Euro in him. You could just tell he didn’t have that dog in him, needed for when adversity hit.

Spinks was mostly a light heavy in his career. Wilder KOs him. Holmes who fought Tyson was 39 and nearly 2 year layoff and coming off back to back losses, Wilder KOs him. Berbick he KOs, 80s division was even worse than the last 10 years You have to take into account 'How the fighters were perceived at the time. Michael Spinks has achieved superior wins than Deontay Wilder on his resume. Michael Spinks beat Larry Holmes twice back to back, before fighting Mike Tyson. Spinks was a undefeated Olympic Champion and the former Undisputed Light Heavyweight Champion at 175 pounds. I have stated this before? Michael Spinks was essentially the Oleksandr Uysk of his era, invading the Heavyweight Division'. Statistically many people on this thread are right, in questioning Deontay Wilder's true power 'Because against top level fighters, quite simply his power is not really been proven. Knocking down Tyson Fury, hardly proves anything as? Fury has been decked at every single level of the sport, domestic, European and World level. Tyson Fury was decked by a novice boxer in Francis Ngannou, and then battered around the ring by Oleksandr Uysk I a fighter who has never been renowned for his punching power'. Tyson Fury in my opinion, after many years of mocking Anthony Joshua 'And quite recently stating that fighting Joshua would be a easy win. Fury is actually tactically avoiding that match, because? Goodness, if Fury is being decked and battered by Oleksandr Uysk I & II. There is a very high likely-hood that Fury will disappeared when he comes into contact with Anthony Joshua's power'. Note: Anthony Joshua vs Tyson Fury & Deontay Wilder vs Anthony Joshua 'Are two of the easiest and biggest fights that can be made in boxing. But what is preventing them fights from happening in my opinion, is both Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder avoiding Anthony Joshua just like they did all those years ago i.e. Everyone who is honest, and knows boxing? Is aware that both Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury chose to fight each other, because they believe stylistically it was a easier fight than Anthony Joshua'. ​ Deontay Wilder within his era of Heavyweight fighters 'Has been a great fighter, and Champion. But on a all-time scale, Wilder really is only relying on his power to win him fights. Against most all-time top level Heavyweight fighters, Deontay Wilder is being dominated skill for skill in all areas of his game'. Wladimir Kiltschhko never promoted himself as brutal or destructive fighter 'But statistically at top level, Kiltschko is the most proven power puncher in the Heavyweight Divisions of the past 20 years. I would think only David Tua at top level, has better statistics on his resume than Wladimir Kiltschko in blasting out top level fighters'. To conclude: I would say currently right now as we speak 'Anthony Joshua is perceived as a more intimidating a formidable opponent than both Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder. Top level fighters are still very wary of Joshua's combined skill level, and power. Whereas in comparison, they know Tyson Fury is a not a monster power puncher and that skill for skill any solid boxer would back themselves to win rounds against Deontay WIlder consistently'. Just compare the scenes, to when Joseph Parker and Zhilei Zhang beat Deontay Wilder to Daniel Dubois beating Anthony Joshua 'Zhang and Parker, were quite reserved with their celebrations. Joseph Parker was very reluctant to state that beating Deontay Wilder was his best ever performance, because achieving the win was a straight forward execution'. But when Daniel Dubois beat Anthony Joshua 'Dubois and his entire team, reacted with mass celebrations. Daniel Dubois during the build up to the fight stated that Anthony Joshua had been the King for a long time. Those descriptives, and actions all expose how fighters rate Anthony Joshua. Dubois since beating Joshua has been in my opinion, stuck on that win. That may be the absolute peak level win of Daniel Dubois's career, as Tyson Fury once stated in reference to his win over Wladimir Kiltschko? Daniel Dubois beating Anthony Joshua, may be metaphorical his climbing of Mount Everest inside a boxing ring' etc.

- - What happens if U busted for being an organ grinder monkey? Deyonce was Al Haymon's TBA short notice fighter giving opponents 2-3 weeks to train, a scam crooks like l'l floydy who created the scam.At least your mama likes monkeys bitch. She likes to take those monkeys balls deep into both of her mouth, pussy and asshole.

Because he was uglier and shouted stupid things?

Spinks,holmes would have schooled wilder and Berbick would have been a 50/50 Spinks was mostly a light heavy in his career. Wilder KOs him. Holmes who fought Tyson was 39 and nearly 2 year layoff and coming off back to back losses, Wilder KOs him. Berbick he KOs, 80s division was even worse than the last 10 years

And NOBODY ever ducked Wilder. They all wanted him. Joshua wanted him. Ruiz wanted him, but Wilder ducked saying "Ruiz wanted to price out". Fury came from couch to fight Wilder. Parker said: fine, just do it. Zhang took it when offered. Just stop with that s.hit how was anybody afraid of him.

Wilder would have KOd all those Tyson did Spinks,holmes would have schooled wilder and Berbick would have been a 50/50

charlie zelenoff fought wilder so he can't be that intimidating. stop making threads

A question, for all Wilder haters. What happens when he becomes heavyweight champion again? What would you haters have to say about him then? Remember that George Foreman was 45 years old when he won The heavyweight championship again. - - What happens if U busted for being an organ grinder monkey? Deyonce was Al Haymon's TBA short notice fighter giving opponents 2-3 weeks to train, a scam crooks like l'l floydy who created the scam.

Same reason that people really thought Tyson would beat Holyfield or Lewis. Big talk, slightly unhinged, wild statements. For some reason people don't realise they're watching boxing, a sport. I didn't think fighters feared Wilder. Every top fighter wanted him. Fury was prepared to come off the couch to fight him. Deontay Wilder was an intimidating Heavyweight fighter 'But not in the same way as Mike Tyson, Sonny Liston, or George Foreman. Those fighter's aura of intimidation, extended with them both inside and outside the boxing ring. We only have to look back at confrontations between Toney Bellew and Deontay Wilder to see fighters were not intimidated by him outside the ring'. I have always thought that both Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury himself especially 'Promoted themselves as intimidating fighters outside the ring. But they appeared to be like Wrestlers with their demeanour, theatrical'. Which gave them a lot of stage presents, and aided them being stars in this particular era of Heavyweight boxing'. Tyson Fury used the image of his gypsy fighting culture to promote himself as some sort of tough guy 'But I highly doubt he has ever had a fight outside the ring in his life. If this was the case? Surely there would be stories, on a street level of Fury's confrontations'. This is not disrespect to Tyson Fury, it is just a known fact that from grass roots level he was focused on boxing, and pretty much wrapped in cotton wool protected by a caring family'. Note: Since the conclusion of the Kiltschko era, or in recent times 'David Haye, Derek Chisora and Dillian Whyte. I would highlight those two fighters as competitors that opponents would measured themselves against outside of the ring. Haye was quite audacious whenever he was attacked, whereas Derek Chisora and Dillian Whyte were very dangerous'. David Haye once upon a time, during the build up to Dillian Whyte vs Anthony Joshua stated 'That if this was a straightener outside the ring, I think Whyte would win. But it is not, so I am backing Anthony Joshua'. To conclude: I think through the television, the perception of fighters can sometimes be amplified i.e. How they are promoting themselves 'Fighters like Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury have a lot of stage presents in front of the cameras. But in physical reality? I have never perceived ether Deontay Wilder or Tyson Fury as overall intimating Heavyweight fighter's in the same category as Mike Tyson, Sonny Liston or George Foreman'. I think people must watch the actions and behaviour of fighters 'Around their nearest competition. Nobody has ever really stepped to Anthony Joshua even during his most vulnerable or challenging times. Daniel Dubois had a little go, he seems to of been the only fighter to take his chances' etc.

A question, for all Wilder haters. What happens when he becomes heavyweight champion again? What would you haters have to say about him then? Remember that George Foreman was 45 years old when he won The heavyweight championship again. He is 40. Lost every round to Parker, Got stopped with Zhang, who is now shot himself. If you still have some hopes about him, good luck.

A question, for all Wilder haters. What happens when he becomes heavyweight champion again? What would you haters have to say about him then? Remember that George Foreman was 45 years old when he won The heavyweight championship again.

Same reason that people really thought Tyson would beat Holyfield or Lewis. Big talk, slightly unhinged, wild statements. For some reason people don't realise they're watching boxing, a sport. I didn't think fighters feared Wilder. Every top fighter wanted him. Fury was prepared to come off the couch to fight him. The big majority here expected 38 old Wilder to Ko Parker. They laghed at me when I said it was very unlikely to happen. People were overimpressed with Wilder stopping all Szpilkas in the world.

Say what you will of AJ and Wilder, I have enjoyed watching them fight, and they both got started relatively late, AJ at age 18, and Wilder at 20. Both medaled at the Olympics, AJ gold with 5 years in the sport, Wilder bronze after 3 years in the sport, and each became world champion and defended their portion of the title picture. I seriously doubt anyone crapping on either guy has come anywhere near the accomplishments of either guy. I also seriously doubt anyone crapping on the power of either guy would be willing to take even one shot, with pads, from either one. {/QUOTE] - - Deyonce was Haymon's go to boy where they used the l'l floydy TBA short notice opponents given 2-3 weeks to train. Deyonce and Blubber are two of the biggest disgraced contemporaries who finally were forced to fight each other for little more than Peanuts while AJ cleaned out the heavy division while clearing a rare fortune in spite of his spare number of fights. AJ's problem was he never had a decent trainer, so eventually suffered his losses, but his physical assets greatly exceeded Deyonce and Blubber and he ain't shy to fight like they was.

Joshua was always a more cautious, more technical, more cerebral fighter who was protecting obvious vulnerabilities. Ultimately he beat better competition than Wilder ever did, but he never had that aura of absolute destructive confidence that Wilder did before being humbled. Joshua absolutely had that kind of aura when he was fighting at a lower level. What he was doing to guys was at times scary.

Same reason that people really thought Tyson would beat Holyfield or Lewis. Big talk, slightly unhinged, wild statements. For some reason people don't realise they're watching boxing, a sport. I didn't think fighters feared Wilder. Every top fighter wanted him. Fury was prepared to come off the couch to fight him.

what champions are you referring to? i cant think of any respectable long reigning champs who only beat 2 top 10 ranked opponents their entire careers. i can think of a guy like artur grigorian. maybe wilder is as good as him? maybe even better? congr-ats? Go back and reread. You got it completely wrong and are consequently stuck in a textbook logical fallacy. Try again, and we'll talk when you're actually responding to what I said, not some manufactured straw man that doesn't even use the same terminology.

Say what you will of AJ and Wilder, I have enjoyed watching them fight, and they both got started relatively late, AJ at age 18, and Wilder at 20. Both medaled at the Olympics, AJ gold with 5 years in the sport, Wilder bronze after 3 years in the sport, and each became world champion and defended their portion of the title picture. I seriously doubt anyone crapping on either guy has come anywhere near the accomplishments of either guy. I also seriously doubt anyone crapping on the power of either guy would be willing to take even one shot, with pads, from either one. Wilder in particular I think did really well considering his mentality and unwillingness to learn new tricks, and his general lack of skill. Imagine if he'd had the work ethic and IQ of an Usyk or Beterbiev or Bivol and had continued to improve his skills, rather than relying on his one trick (and it was a heck of a trick). People talking about his resume act like nobody else ever fought lower tier opponents, and yet there are many champions who also fought lower tier opponents for most of their career and never managed the KO streak that Wilder did. As an aside, Ryan Garcia feels to me like he's following the Wilder path, but without as much success in the title picture. Mentally weak, unable to improve his game, and reliant on one very good trick. what champions are you referring to? i cant think of any respectable long reigning champs who only beat 2 top 10 ranked opponents their entire careers. i can think of a guy like artur grigorian. maybe wilder is as good as him? maybe even better? congr-ats?

It was because of his reckless tendency and at times unpredictability to throw an awkward shot that would do devastating damage. He wasn't as textbook and proper as AJ was. With Wilder you couldn't afford to have a moment where your mind wandered. Opponents saw the style and saw the devastating knockouts and were more fearful.