Crawford had recent interview, which two topics were interesting, he mentioned about Manny Pacquiao having utilized steroids, once he avoided he tried testing against Mayweather, he stopped getting knockouts.
The other is that Errol Spence was weight bully and stayed on the same division his whole career to capitalize on it. Also that based on his current accolades and counter points to some wins, he didn't achieve much, odd hearing it from Crawford considering it diminishes his win over his opponent.
On paper, EJ was a unified champion (WBC, IBF and WBA) in one of boxing’s most storied divisions. He beat active world champions to win every belt none were vacant. Such as Kell Brook, Shawn Porter, and Yordenis Ugas were all reigning titleholders when he beat them.
challenges Jermell Charlo
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He pulled out of the Pac fight because of his retina, he didn't just decide not to fight him.
Charlo was undisputed champ at the time, and him and Spence have the same trainer so Spence couldn't move up.
Guess that's why he opted for Ugas after the Cuban upset Manny, think that people missed on such a spectacle whatever the outcome would had been, with likely Spence beating Pacquiao. Spence vs Ugas was entertaining itself, but stylistically it isn't as enticing.
Charlo should had been stripped with his lack of activity. Defended it against Brian Castaño twice just to fight once a year and win the rematch to cover a single mandatory.
Spence fighting Castano, Fundora, or Tszyu to become a two division champion would certainly been something to boost his resume.
rofl this mouth breather is already begging for a ceasefire.
Are Diego Hatton Froch Timmeh Cotto GREAT fighters
No, but they were good enough to make an impact in boxing
Your boyfran:rofl: as you all him can help you help after you get knocked out
Wouldn't say great but definitely levels above spencerina lmfao or you think he's on their level?
It's ok you don't have to answer cause I know your stvpidass won't have a good retort.rofl this mouth breather is already begging for a ceasefire.
Are Diego Hatton Froch Timmeh Cotto GREAT fighters
No, but they were good enough to make an impact in boxing
Your boyfran:rofl: as you all him can help you help after you get knocked out
If the most notable win on your resume is not a HOF what does that say about Bud’s career?
Quickly forgotten when he’s done. No notable moments that will stand the test of time.
It's absolutely crazy how you morons love that argument.
"Bu but dis guy got in why can't my boyfran"?
Can't Gatti just be the exception instead of the standard?
It's ok you don't have to answer cause I know your stvpidass won't have a good retort.
Gatti was viewed as a whole package , which many don’t understand
Atlantic City would make a fortune on a weekend when Gatti was fighting at boardwalk hall
Hotels , restaurants , casinos and clubs would make a fortune over the week because the amount of asses he brought into town
Being a witness to this with my own eyes , people were coming down from Philly cause Gatti was fighting not to mention the folks from NYC , Jersey and Canada
Just need to ask anyone who owns a business in AC and see the response you get
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Arturo Gatti, a renowned "Thunder" boxer, was inducted into the International Boxing Hall of Fame in 2013, his first year of eligibility, after his death in 2009
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It's absolutely crazy how you morons love that argument.
"Bu but dis guy got in why can't my boyfran"?
Can't Gatti just be the exception instead of the standard?
It's ok you don't have to answer cause I know your stvpidass won't have a good retort.
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Arturo Gatti, a renowned "Thunder" boxer, was inducted into the International Boxing Hall of Fame in 2013, his first year of eligibility, after his death in 2009
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Crawford had recent interview, which two topics were interesting, he mentioned about Manny Pacquiao having utilized steroids, once he avoided he tried testing against Mayweather, he stopped getting knockouts.
The other is that Errol Spence was weight bully and stayed on the same division his whole career to capitalize on it. Also that based on his current accolades and counter points to some wins, he didn't achieve much, odd hearing it from Crawford considering it diminishes his win over his opponent.
On paper, EJ was a unified champion (WBC, IBF and WBA) in one of boxing’s most storied divisions. He beat active world champions to win every belt none were vacant. Such as Kell Brook, Shawn Porter, and Yordenis Ugas were all reigning titleholders when he beat them.
challenges Jermell Charlo
https://x.com/ProBoxingFans/status/1905364203898011659?
He is calling Spence a weight bully. But then a lot of people are saying Bud is similar size to Canelo and 168 won't be an issue. If you think 168 won't be an issue then does that mean Bud been a weight bully his whole career?
yes
it is hall of fame not hall of great
fighters get in because they were good enough to get attention onto the sport of boxing
Errol definitely accomplished this!
Being great is what's suppose to get you into the hall of fame you idiot. If bringing attention to the sport or being popular is what gets you in then Wilder and stank also get in.
Lmfao moron. Way to lower the bar :rofl:
He beat Algieri, Brook, Peterson, Mikey, Porter, Danny G, and Ugas. That's a pretty solid run.
So context doesn't matter to you? Lmfao I love how you embarrass yourself
It makes me think about how Spence didn't really capitalized on his opportunities despite being well backed by PBC.
-He was fairly inactive, he could had fight other opponents available like Keith Thurman and Manny Pacquiao. Yet decided not to.
-He could had moved up, PBC held at the time a pretty stacked Light Middleweight division
He pulled out of the Pac fight because of his retina, he didn't just decide not to fight him.
Charlo was undisputed champ at the time, and him and Spence have the same trainer so Spence couldn't move up.
Yep, I agree. How many more Terence "Bud" Crawford's do we know? None. However, I will say that in order for Spence to get back into the fight game.
Then he is going to have to make some very serious lifestyle changes by changing his old bad habits. I say that because the shit he is putting his body through now. Is just aging the living fuck out of him.
One he doesn't like to train or stay in shape. Moreover, his lazy fat ass never goes to the gym because he is too busy overeating and getting drunk while drinking his liquor.yes
it is hall of fame not hall of great
fighters get in because they were good enough to get attention onto the sport of boxing
Errol definitely accomplished this!
I agree. However, in spite of all of that. He is still getting in though. I am pretty sure that Al Haymon has already made sure of it.
Maybe. The ibhof has lowered its standard in recent years
Spencerina doesn't really have many accomplishments he was a hypejob.
He beat Danny and porter less impressively and years after Thurman did.
Decisioned a fat overrated fighter in mickey garcia
beat a shot brook
Beat ugas bumass who lost to a stank Davis leftover
Spencerina was just all smoke and mirrors supported by racist pbc fangirls
I agree. However, in spite of all of that. He is still getting in though. I am pretty sure that Al Haymon has already made sure of it.
he might not be a 1st ballot hall of famer
But I think he'll make it there
Yep, I agree. How many more Terence "Bud" Crawford's do we know? None. However, I will say that in order for Spence to get back into the fight game.
Then he is going to have to make some very serious lifestyle changes by changing his old bad habits. I say that because the shit he is putting his body through now. Is just aging the living fuck out of him.
One he doesn't like to train or stay in shape. Moreover, his lazy fat ass never goes to the gym because he is too busy overeating and getting drunk while drinking his liquor.
No, I disagree. On merit; I say yes. I think he gets in. He has only one loss on his record and that was to arguably the best P4P fighter in the world in Terence Bud Crawford. On character, I say fuck no. He does not get in.
All of his fast living and late night partying; Which nearly cost him his life, one of his eyes and ruined his prime. Also, like Crawford; He had been avoided for much of his career too by the elite fighters in the welterweight division.
My final analysis is yes. He would get in eventually.
It makes me think about how Spence didn't really capitalized on his opportunities despite being well backed by PBC.
-He was fairly inactive, he could had fight other opponents available like Keith Thurman and Manny Pacquiao. Yet decided not to.
-He could had moved up, PBC held at the time a pretty stacked Light Middleweight division
-His wins don't really stack up as a Hall Of Famer to me either, at least for me as he fought:
Context in some of his wins:
-Danny Garcia a light welterweight who didn't have much success moving up. His best achievements above 140, were beating Lamont Peterson at a 143 catchweight and pulling a split decision loss to Keith Thurman.
-Kell Brook cutting down from 160 to 147, coming off a devastating loss to Gennady Golovkin. Having a titanium plate in his right eye socket. Kell Brook when fighting Golovkin, was a undefeated fighter and was considered a top pound-for-pound boxer. But at this point Brook likely already needed to move up and took a risk making two jumps.
-Mikey Garcia was a fighter that debuted at featherweight and was a natural lightweight, a fighter that was in the P4P rankings but had no business fighting two divisions above, Spence was already considered quite big being compared to Middleweights.
Think his most legitimate wins are over Lamont Peterson, Shawn Porter and Yordenis Ugas. And While 2 out of 3 are legitimate are genuine world champions with elite qualities. They are not that outstanding themselves. Porter is a tough night for most welterweights with his imposing aggressive style, he was quite limited. He lost in every top level challenge he took. Porter win over Ugas was controversial itself.
Ugas was coming off his biggest win in a upset over declining Manny Pacquiao, a fighter that was in his 40s, who was compensated with his athletic ability to compete at the top level above his natural weight class. Pacquiao also stopped getting knockouts at 147 as he was a fighter that did damage through accumulation through rapid combinations. He was still a great fighter, winning because he had the skill and sufficient ability to pull it off. Ugas best wins were over a worn out Omar Figueroa Jr, Jamal James and Thomas Dulorme, none which were contenders at welterweight.
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