Who have you got winning this one??
Madrimov reminds me of Golovkin a bit,the preformance against Crawford was great but is he just hype?? Was it the weight that was a problem for Crawford coupled with age or is Madrimov really as good as he looked.
I'm not the most educated on Ortiz jr but from what I've seen from both i have Madrimov winning.
Hopefully some can break down how they think the fights plays out in text..
I've really wanted to like Ortiz but I realized after his last fight why he was almost killing himself to get to 147. He doesn't have the size advantage at 154. He is gritty and does have strong legs (like all Robert Garcias guys) but a good counter puncher at 154 may just sleep him.
Two very underrated fighters are Madrimov and Bohachuk, TC and Ortiz are not overrated those two eros are top level fighters tough as teak and come in real shape, its 50/50 Ortiz and Madrimov and I wouldnt be surprised if Vergil stopped him or Madrimov got a decision its that type of fight
I pick Madrimov
I thought he beat Crawford 7-5 but was never gonna get a decision
But if I had a criticism, he didn't seem that willing to leave it all in the ring in the last few rounds.
a bit more will and he beats ortiz, no problem.
Yeah after watching that fight again its obvious Bud hurt him with some sickening shots and that was maybe the reason ragardless of how poker faced Madrimov was.
some of the shots Madrimov took i beleive would have knocked down and hurt Ortiz.
I pick Madrimov
I thought he beat Crawford 7-5 but was never gonna get a decision
But if I had a criticism, he didn't seem that willing to leave it all in the ring in the last few rounds.
a bit more will and he beats ortiz, no problem.
I think Ortiz will limit Madrimov's ring generalship with ring cutting along with his body work and sharp jab.
This time Vergil isn't handling a physically bigger and overwhelming swarmer, but rather a boxer puncher whose at a size disadvantage, and whose offense is low output though his power is underrated. Madrimov also tends to overextend his punches, which actually allowed him to catch Crawford by surprise whenever he tried to create distance, but it can also be a disadvantage as it leaves him open for counters. Specially considering his off position to brace himself. His feint game will also not be as affective on a boxer who doesn't to counter as much Crawford.
Might be wrong with the outcome, just glad this fight is happening.
He might over extend but he lands with it and is smart when he does it..
If one of the best counter punchers in the game couldnt exploit it i dont see how Ortiz will make him pay more than Bud did.
I think Ortiz will limit Madrimov's ring generalship with ring cutting along with his body work and sharp jab.
This time Vergil isn't handling a physically bigger and overwhelming swarmer, but rather a boxer puncher whose at a size disadvantage, and whose offense is low output though his power is underrated. Madrimov also tends to overextend his punches, which actually allowed him to catch Crawford by surprise whenever he tried to create distance, but it can also be a disadvantage as it leaves him open for counters. Specially considering his off position to brace himself. His feint game will also not be as affective on a boxer who doesn't to counter as much Crawford.
Might be wrong with the outcome, just glad this fight is happening.
I've really wanted to like Ortiz but I realized after his last fight why he was almost killing himself to get to 147. He doesn't have the size advantage at 154. He is gritty and does have strong legs (like all Robert Garcias guys) but a good counter puncher at 154 may just sleep him.
Bud’s ring iq is what kept him honest for me
But Ortiz does not have that ring iq although he makes up for it in power
I still see Madrimov winning though
Who you got, Davis or Bery?
I feel it depends on Madrimov, he didnt go after Bud I think what would have come back kept him in a somewhat passive mode, if he goes after Ortiz he could get stopped and you will see everyone can TC, its all about how Madrimov goes in, if he steps up or holds back.
Bud’s ring iq is what kept him honest for me
But Ortiz does not have that ring iq although he makes up for it in power
I still see Madrimov winning though
From what I seen vs Bud , imo Madrimov gets the better of Ortiz
I feel it depends on Madrimov, he didnt go after Bud I think what would have come back kept him in a somewhat passive mode, if he goes after Ortiz he could get stopped and you will see everyone can TC, its all about how Madrimov goes in, if he steps up or holds back.
I still think Ortiz would put Bud on a stretcher but Madrimov learnt a lot against Bud. I think he was too green.
Possibility that he was green is what I was saying and the learning process
But you guys want Bud to fight Canelo, lol?
Not me, I want Clenelo to go with the Beterbiev then Usyk s h I t like his I d I o t i c guys were saying a couple of years ago.
I still think Ortiz would put Bud on a stretcher but Madrimov learnt a lot against Bud. I think he was too green.
Maybe , the possibility is there
I believe Ortiz gets beat
I still think Ortiz would put Bud on a stretcher but Madrimov learnt a lot against Bud. I think he was too green.
lol no chance.
Bud would whoop his ass. Easy work