Show yourselves here and show your receipts.
Not hard to do in this day and age of instant screen capture using your phone.
(I'll prove it to you if you want.)
Either you say no or yes with proof of purchase.
Saying yes without proof is not counted. It's considered a lie, nothing more, nothing less.
Keep fooling yourself brother. Just admit you don't buy any ppv under any circumstance. Look at you, you didn't buy this Morrell/Benavidez did you? What's your reason for this one? I understand it's not easy for anyone to admit being a pirate. I would just keep quiet if I were you like the majority of people here, instead of concocting all these nonsensical excuses of yours, ie, it's not ppv worthy, it's out of time, etc.
This isn't an opinion. Just go look at the numbers for bivol vs Beterbiev 1 in america. I guarantee the number would be bigger with a primetime start.
Feb 22nd is the biggest card ever and it won't crack 300k buys in america. Why? Start time
No Americans are buying morning ppvs. Bivol vs Beterbiev 2 ppv start time on the Westcoast is 8am. No casual fan is buying a 8am card.
you cant debate this. So you deflect.
Americans are way less likely to buy a 8am ppv versus a 8pm ppv. Anybody with a brain knows this.
And i bought benavidez vs Morrell, so wtf are you even talking about?
Show yourselves here and show your receipts.
Not hard to do in this day and age of instant Measurement Tools and Converters screen capture using your phone.
(I'll prove it to you if you want.)
Either you say no or yes with proof of purchase.
Saying yes without proof is not counted. It's considered a lie, nothing more, nothing less.
If proof is required, those who have it can share. Otherwise, a claim without evidence doesn’t count. Simple as that.
Hugely promoted. And many people watched it. But American ppv buys for foreign fights are always low. And I'm telling you it's because of the fight time.
Crawford vs madrimov wasn't about time. It was a fight that shouldn't have been ppv. Madrimov had barely fought on tv. He had no name. So thats a terrible comparison.
And no I didn't buy it. It wasn't ppv worthy but Bivol vs Beterbiev is ppv worthy. but I'm telling you a 11am start will never pay off big numbers in the U.S.
Hardcore fans will watch anytime. Casuals wont
That's not debatable.
Keep fooling yourself brother. Just admit you don't buy any ppv under any circumstance. Look at you, you didn't buy this Morrell/Benavidez did you? What's your reason for this one? I understand it's not easy for anyone to admit being a pirate. I would just keep quiet if I were you like the majority of people here, instead of concocting all these nonsensical excuses of yours, ie, it's not ppv worthy, it's out of time, etc.
I'm talking about regular boxings fans. The ones who post on here and tweet regular about boxing and complain about ppv prices. They can't use 4pm as an excuse for not buying unless they do not watch it, which they do
Nah, regular fans don't care what the time is unless they're busy.
But a casual is not throwing a 11am fight party on a Saturday. And thats who drive ppv numbers.
That's all I'm saying
Stop this silly nonsense brother. Those fights were hugely promoted on social media everyday of your waking hour. Images were being splashed on Youtube, twitter, facebook, websites, etc. This site alone was promoting them for two months leading to fight day. And you want me to believe not a single one of you watched those fights?
Okay, what about the Madrimov vs Crawford cards which were held in the US? What's your excuse about that fight? Did you buy that fight?
Hugely promoted. And many people watched it. But American ppv buys for foreign fights are always low. And I'm telling you it's because of the fight time.
Crawford vs madrimov wasn't about time. It was a fight that shouldn't have been ppv. Madrimov had barely fought on tv. He had no name. So thats a terrible comparison.
And no I didn't buy it. It wasn't ppv worthy but Bivol vs Beterbiev is ppv worthy. but I'm telling you a 11am start will never pay off big numbers in the U.S.
Hardcore fans will watch anytime. Casuals wont
That's not debatable.
Yes. I would buy a 4pm fight. But I don't count. I'm a hard-core fan. I watch inoue fight bums at 7am. Casuals dont
Casual fans in america will never buy morning ppvs. It don't matter how much hype you see on social media.
So expect to see low buys for this card just like the first one.
I'm talking about regular boxings fans. The ones who post on here and tweet regular about boxing and complain about ppv prices. They can't use 4pm as an excuse for not buying unless they do not watch it, which they do
Are you watching the main event at 4pm? If the answer is yes then why are you not buying the ppv timing doesn't matter if you are going to watching it regardless right (this is obviously aimed at people who will still watch uk and saudi events, which i know a lot do cause they be tweeting along)
Yes. I would buy a 4pm fight. But I don't count. I'm a hard-core fan. I watch inoue fight bums at 7am. Casuals dont
Casual fans in america will never buy morning ppvs. It don't matter how much hype you see on social media.
So expect to see low buys for this card just like the first one.
5pm main event is 2pm on the Westcoast. Nobody is buying 2pm ppvs in America
We've seen enough ppvs now that proves what I'm saying when it comes to u.k amd saudi fight ppv numbers in america. The names don't matter. Start time does
Who throwing a fight party at 11am? Nobody
Are you watching the main event at 4pm? If the answer is yes then why are you not buying the ppv timing doesn't matter if you are going to watching it regardless right (this is obviously aimed at people who will still watch uk and saudi events, which i know a lot do cause they be tweeting along)
I don't mind either. But we're the minority which is why you see low ppv numbers in america for UK and Saudi cards.
It's a zero percent chance of a fight party at 11 am bro
Stop this silly nonsense brother. Those fights were hugely promoted on social media everyday of your waking hour. Images were being splashed on Youtube, twitter, facebook, websites, etc. This site alone was promoting them for two months leading to fight day. And you want me to believe not a single one of you watched those fights?
Okay, what about the Madrimov vs Crawford cards which were held in the US? What's your excuse about that fight? Did you buy that fight?
Start at 11am. Perfect time imo. I dont mind the SA cards, leave me with my whole night available.
don't get me wrong, I miss the hbo/showtime ppv days. They were great too
I don't mind either. But we're the minority which is why you see low ppv numbers in america for UK and Saudi cards.
It's a zero percent chance of a fight party at 11 am bro
I find it mad how people in the US complain about a 5pm main event time. In the UK, US main events are usually around 5am.
5pm on a Saturday is great you can get people together to watch it and at a decent time. Prime time 10pm is still good but don't get why i see US people complain about an afternoon, and when they do have it on primetime they complain if its run late to "12am". 5pm, 10pm, 12am main events way better than 5am.
5pm main event is 2pm on the Westcoast. Nobody is buying 2pm ppvs in America
We've seen enough ppvs now that proves what I'm saying when it comes to u.k amd saudi fight ppv numbers in america. The names don't matter. Start time does
Who throwing a fight party at 11am? Nobody
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I think this fight is worth buying, definitely got it.
Could someone msg me with a link to stream the fight, I’m not trying to pay the $80 and the link I usually use isn’t working anymore. It would be a real lifesaver
Anyone????
Could someone msg me with a link to stream the fight, I’m not trying to pay the $80 and the link I usually use isn’t working anymore. It would be a real lifesaver Anyone????
Because fight NIGHTS are big in the US, not afternoons. The world moves when we say to
Yeah right i constantly see you lot crying about main events getting late if it even comes close to midnight, 5pm is too early apparently yet 12am is well past your bedtimes
Because fight NIGHTS are big in the US, not afternoons. The world moves when we say to
Stop this silly nonsense brother. Just admit you watch fights for free. End of story.
I find it mad how people in the US complain about a 5pm main event time. In the UK, US main events are usually around 5am.
5pm on a Saturday is great you can get people together to watch it and at a decent time. Prime time 10pm is still good but don't get why i see US people complain about an afternoon, and when they do have it on primetime they complain if its run late to "12am". 5pm, 10pm, 12am main events way better than 5am.
Because fight NIGHTS are big in the US, not afternoons. The world moves when we say to
I find it mad how people in the US complain about a 5pm main event time. In the UK, US main events are usually around 5am.
5pm on a Saturday is great you can get people together to watch it and at a decent time. Prime time 10pm is still good but don't get why i see US people complain about an afternoon, and when they do have it on primetime they complain if its run late to "12am". 5pm, 10pm, 12am main events way better than 5am.
True. Brother, he has to provide an excuse why such fights didn't do well PPV-wise. He just can't admit he watched the fights for free. It's taboo. Let's take Fury/Usyk, Joshua/Dubois, etc. for instance. Tons of articles were posted and discussed at length in this site for two months leading to the fights, then all of a sudden they couldn't be bothered to watch those fights in the afternoon? Sounds so silly isn't it? Especially for people who call themselves real boxing fans.
The Crawford-Madrimov was held in the US, as another example. What's the explanation on this one why it didn't have PPV numbers? Easy peasy. Crawford is not PPV attraction doe. It's never about "I watched the fight for free."
In reality, all these fights are massively pirated. No exception, be it Canelo, so-called other PPV guy like Tank, etc. Only difference is PBC fans are hell-bent on lying and coming up with manufactured PPV reports/numbers. Others don't.
Fight time is the problem. Nobody is buying ppv at 3pm in the afternoon in america.
All u.k. and Saudi cards start in the a.m. if you live on the west coast.
Start at 11am. Perfect time imo. I dont mind the SA cards, leave me with my whole night available.
don't get me wrong, I miss the hbo/showtime ppv days. They were great too
Fight time is the problem. Nobody is buying ppv at 3pm in the afternoon in america.
All u.k. and Saudi cards start in the a.m. if you live on the west coast.
That's true. The fight aired back to back so it started around 11AM-7PM and aired again immediately after.