Usyk did not beat the great Fury from Wlad, or Wilder 2, and he never could. Those were prime Fury 2.0 (Wlad) and Fury 3.0 (Wilder 2) At the time of the fight (rematch) Usyk was 37 and Fury 36, but that is not the real age sportswise. Nash has calculated Usyk's biological age to be 25 (clean living, war hero, fake Rolex) and Fury's to be 60 (obesity, depression, alcohol, uncastrated wild boar, multi-million charity donations)
Factoring all this in, this is no different to The Face of Boxing (no name needed, we all know who he is) beating Mike Tyson, but as always, Iron Mike gets all the excuses and the Furious one gets criticised.
Fury 2.0 and 3.0 could never lose to anyone, not until the next batch of next-gen men will we see a better fighter, that will likely come in the shape of the current Face of Boxing's, future son, but even the current Face of Boxing, although, definitely the best boxer and MMA fighter in the world right now, could not beat Fury 2.0 or 3.0.
We need to respect who Fury 2.0 and 3.0 were, and realise that young Usyk beat old Fury, and in two very debatable decisions at that. Frank Warren and Tyson Fury himself felt they won both fights. Never forget that. Nash out - His Majesty
Usyk is older than Tyson Fury - both in age and in bouts. Dude had over 300 amateur fighters.
Terrible argument, Nash.
Its a valid argument.
Usyk is undisputed but in a weak era.
Fury aint the same guy that dismantled Wlad
Fury 2.0 lost to John McDermott and 3.0 was extremely lucky the ref didn't stop the fight against Otto Wallin (definitely would've been stopped the other way). Wallin also gave him a brutal beating in the 12th round of that fight. Tyson hanging on
Wallin' stunned Fury pretty clearly in the 12th round. People seem to ignore that fact.
Fury 2.0 lost to John McDermott and 3.0 was extremely lucky the ref didn't stop the fight against Otto Wallin (definitely would've been stopped the other way). Wallin also gave him a brutal beating in the 12th round of that fight. Tyson hanging on
The only man who can beat him is himself
He done tried to beat himself. He failed. Observe:
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Well, it's hard to keep track of how many times Fury has been knocked down
In boxing years, he's worn out
To be honest, Fury's success is based on his freakish size advantage over everyone
The skills have always been so-so
Nonetheless he's gotten the spotlight, because he's seen as the 2nd best in the weakest era of heavyweight history
Let's be honest, Usyk wouldn't have been able to do any of that vs the prime HW of the past
He barely beat Fury
For sure...
Off my boxing eye he didn't beat fury more convincingly than francis ngannou... although I grown to love the cagey champ I still don't know how to read his power level or where he is at
To be sure, Usyk beat a Fury who lost his true dedication to the sport a good while back. He got really fat and out of shape after the third fight vs Wilder. One can't expect to be in peak fighting condition when spending most of the camp trying to get rid of a load of fat. And, he was seen drunk off his ass, stumbling around last year. An active fighter can't live like that and be in top shape.
Thanks for being logical
Fury is hated and despised by many, and they aren't capable of being subjective.
It's fury's own fault for his lifestyle and attitude to training but he is 5 or 6 years past his best at this stage.
Usyk is older chronologically but there's no way his body age isn't younger than Fury.
The three year period where fury was an obese, alcoholic druggie would have done untold damage to his body.
It's not an excuse for the losses to Usyk, which I believe we're more due to the difference in mental strength than anything physical, Usyk is just mentally far stronger than Fury.
But yeah physically fury is older than his age, there's no way you can live the way fury did for multiple years and it not do serious damage to you biologically. Honestly Fury is probably headed for a heart attack in his 40s/50s if he's not careful once he retires from boxing, I expect him to properly go to seed once he's not doing training camps any more.
To be sure, Usyk beat a Fury who lost his true dedication to the sport a good while back. He got really fat and out of shape after the third fight vs Wilder. One can't expect to be in peak fighting condition when spending most of the camp trying to get rid of a load of fat. And, he was seen drunk off his ass, stumbling around last year. An active fighter can't live like that and be in top shape.
When was Fury in prime? Was it 2015-2018, when he was retired for 3 years to duck Klitshcko rematch?
Fury never lost a fight during his retirement. Nobody wanted a piece of him. But in ring Fury 2.0 vs Wlad and Fury 3.0 vs Wilder 2. Fury 2.0 vs Fury 3.0 would have been a great fight. The only man who can beat him is himself could have been a great line to promote the fight, but we would have had to find a way by the cloning center to get this fight to happen. Promoted by Donald Marshall. Nash out - His Majesty
Fury's best career win was against the ghost of Wladimir Klitschko.
It was against unified Champion, Wlad, 11-year unbeaten, Wlad, and in his 30s, Wlad, these are just facts that can not be argued against. Nash out - His Majesty
Usyk is older than Tyson Fury - both in age and in bouts. Dude had over 300 amateur fighters.
Terrible argument, Nash.
But we all must, like Nash did, factor in all of this - Nash has calculated Usyk's biological age to be 25 (clean living, war hero, fake Rolex) and Fury's to be 60 (obesity, depression, alcohol, uncastrated wild boar, multi-million charity donations) Nash out - His Majesty
prime mike tyson beats ALLLLLLL. or does he??????
Tokyo Buster, was a one-fight, one-night legend, who retired 1-0, never to be seen in his true form again. Iron Mike was just unfortunate to run into him and that was the beginning of the end. Tyson did redeem himself by going 8 Rounds recently with the Face of Boxing though Nash out - His Majesty
This is Usyk in his prime at 23 years old and 17 fights, amateur+pro, altogether.
Well done Nash, Little Kid Usyk....
Nash, you missed this one by a long margin.
If you read the post in its entirety, you'll realise that it is just Nash being Nash. Nash is Nash, it's just who he is. Nash out - His Majesty
Nash out, of the mental asylum again. Someone get this man his meds.
Nash has just had two spoonfuls of Buttercup Syrup. Let's see if it has any effect. Nash out - His Majesty
Fury gets credit for being a fat slob now?
As the only man in recent-ish times to win the Irish HW title against the great Martin Rogan, fresh off beating Audley 'Olympic Gold' Harrison, Fury goes down as an ATG. His very real charity donation of his Wilder 2 purse, winning fights through uncastrated wild boar and alcohol addiction, only heighten the Fury legend. His back-and-forth, Ward-Gatti like thriller against Wlad, who was very much in his 30s, goes down as the bout of the century. Nash out - His Majesty
This is Usyk in his prime at 23 years old and 17 fights, amateur+pro, altogether.
Well done Nash, Little Kid Usyk....
Nash, you missed this one by a long margin.