According to a report from The Times. Some interesting things coming to the light on this topic, for anyone that cares.
Drostanolone (Commonly known as Masteron) and Trenbolone (Tren) being some quite fuckin potent compounds. Especially Tren, being probably the most potent PED on the Planet.
I don't actually recall a boxer ever popping for Tren before, could be wrong but I don't recall it. Going to be a hard job explaining away how that was from contamination. These two compounds are almost always taken via injection. But who knows these days. Frank Warren said they were waiting for the B Sample :lol1: Good luck with that one.
Another interesting point being reported, Denis McCann was in a picture recently with Dr Usman Sajjad, who openly said recently on a podcast “you would have to be an idiot to fail a drug test in England,” who, for what it's worth, was also the doctor to Tyson Fury and Conor Benn who both tested positive for banned substances.
You should try it then you wouldn’t be called moronic and making chit up
You accuse boxers of being on junk without any facts just your nonsense
Funny how you run when someone mentions your favourite boxer being on junk
Dumbass
Who would I run from lol.
Stop making stuff up and start using logic.
You should try it then you wouldn’t be called moronic and making chit up
You accuse boxers of being on junk without any facts just your nonsense
Funny how you run when someone mentions your favourite boxer being on junk
Dumbass
How much of a fughin clown can you be ???
The man who accuses boxers who he doesn’t have in his favourites list
This site has gone to the chits with moronic idiots like Haka
:mad::mad::mad:
Stop making stuff up and start using logic.
How much of a fughin clown can you be ???
The man who accuses boxers who he doesn’t have in his favourites list
This site has gone to the chits with moronic idiots like Haka
:mad::mad::mad:
Stop making stuff up.
Yeah maybe the mods can move this thread to the Nutrition section if it is not about boxing.
How much of a fughin clown can you be ???
The man who accuses boxers who he doesn’t have in his favourites list
This site has gone to the chits with moronic idiots like Haka
:mad::mad::mad:
Ok fantastic any other irrelevant points you’d like to make while you’re there?
Yeah maybe the mods can move this thread to the Nutrition section if it is not about boxing.
The strength gains were great but the sides were too strong for my liking. I got sick of waking up in a bed absolutely caked in vinegar-smelling sweat and having to keep telling my missus "It's not me, it's the tren, honestly!" :lol1:
I know people who absolutely swear by it though and won't do a cycle without it. I take it you're one of those if you've done it for twenty years. Did you get many sides?
Loved Tren mate yeah in the “good old days”. I still get tempted to run it now but I’m way too old to risk it.
Body doesn’t agree with Tren A so only used Tren E, even though I preferred Tren A, just literally would blow up whenever I pinned unlike Tren E could pin anywhere any time with no issue. Shorts esters way more responsive with me which was frustrating but just the cards I was dealt, which genetically were average to at best slightly above average.
Sides? Yeah of course, unavoidable :lol1: Not too bad for me though in all honesty. It did account to putting me in jail a long time ago (very short time) and I’ve certainly had my “tren” moments over the years but overall in comparison to the horror stories very mild for the most part. Sweats and what not unpleasant but just got used to that kind of thing.
Did you compete?
:lol1: Just give me the most savage stuff you got please
Tren + Masteron too. A typical bodybuilding combination. Interesting stuff I’d love to learn more to be honest about this particular specific situation :lol1:
How was your experience with Tren?
The strength gains were great but the sides were too strong for my liking. I got sick of waking up in a bed absolutely caked in vinegar-smelling sweat and having to keep telling my missus "It's not me, it's the tren, honestly!" :lol1:
I know people who absolutely swear by it though and won't do a cycle without it. I take it you're one of those if you've done it for twenty years. Did you get many sides?
Yeah, that's a fair point, though the effect was unmistakable nevertheless.
Not sure what to make of this really because you'd expect either McCann or at least the doctor overseeing things to know exactly what they're dealing with and yet it's such an obviously flawed choice. Either they know something we don't, or McCann just said "Give me the strongest s**t you've got, Doc!" and asked no further questions. Boxers aren't known for being the brightest bunch after all.
:lol1: Just give me the most savage stuff you got please
Tren + Masteron too. A typical bodybuilding combination. Interesting stuff I’d love to learn more to be honest about this particular specific situation :lol1:
How was your experience with Tren?
PED use is pretty rampant when unknown low profile lower weight boxer has to take them to be able to compete. It’s a point about where the line gets drawn about the consensus about who and what PEDS are used.
Ok fantastic any other irrelevant points you’d like to make while you’re there?
Was that for Bodybuilding though I'd assume? Meaning you were holding a lot of mass at the time I'd imagine?
Yeah, that's a fair point, though the effect was unmistakable nevertheless.
Not sure what to make of this really because you'd expect either McCann or at least the doctor overseeing things to know exactly what they're dealing with and yet it's such an obviously flawed choice. Either they know something we don't, or McCann just said "Give me the strongest s**t you've got, Doc!" and asked no further questions. Boxers aren't known for being the brightest bunch after all.
Where did I ever say or imply that I think the “top guys are not on it”?
PED use is pretty rampant when unknown low profile lower weight boxer has to take them to be able to compete. Its a point about where the line gets drawn about the consensus about who and what PEDS are used.
If even unknown lower weight boxers are using it to be able to compete you think the top guys are not on it ? That is what my comment is about.
Where did I ever say or imply that I think the “top guys are not on it”?
How many top guys have been caught either in drug lab raids, dealers are busted and roll on their clients or straight up flunked tests. It's the who's who of boxing so why would we be shocked if a prospect who really hasn't gotten the training wheels taken off him is on the stuff.
It's disgusting and if I had my way ANYBODY who failed a PED test would do jail time and be permanently banned from the sport. It wouldn't stopping cheating but it would severely minimize it.
Who is shocked?
I’m just opening a topic about the specific drugs he was caught using as it was previously unknown.
If even unknown lower weight boxers are using it to be able to compete you think the top guys are not on it ? That is what my comment is about.
How many top guys have been caught either in drug lab raids, dealers are busted and roll on their clients or straight up flunked tests. It's the who's who of boxing so why would we be shocked if a prospect who really hasn't gotten the training wheels taken off him is on the stuff.
It's disgusting and if I had my way ANYBODY who failed a PED test would do jail time and be permanently banned from the sport. It wouldn't stopping cheating but it would severely minimize it.
They are all on roids.
Anybody that looks extremely lean and vascular is a suspect. Roiding in boxing has been going on for 30 plus years I could tell you about the era it started in the non heavyweight division as boxers started looking completely different than a traditional boxer would look.
In the heavyweight division guys were probably using 10 years or so earlier maybe at bit less.
Not sure what that’s got to do with the thread but thanks for the input.
If even unknown lower weight boxers are using it to be able to compete you think the top guys are not on it ? That is what my comment is about.
Yeah, I'm with you. It's definitely not ideal for Boxing, I would certainly agree with that.
I wonder if any one has ever popped for Tren over the years, like I say this is the first time I can recall it happening from memory.
Man, I was wondering if his other stuff was just polluted with tren instead of actually taking it on purpose. Otherwise I guess they figured he needs weight or extra pop in his punches, and they're willing to risk him standing and wheezing by the 3rd round.
Already tried
She won’t give up the caramel secret
i know how she did it she opened her legs and stuck her pussy first on that wbc leader guy and then on the entire michegan commission job done lol