I’m a fan of but you can’t deny both were hyped up to be the second coming of boxing, and both didn’t live up to their hype.
Wilder i guess?
I have the feeling that Broner was the better fighter overall though.
I vote for Wilder having the better career. I think Broner's career highlight was getting dropped by Marcos Maidana. It was probably the most satisfying match to watch of Broner's entire career for many and that's saying a lot, lol.
Oh and some might consider Wilder in the same annoyance of speaking that Broner was, but I honestly don't see the two similar. Wilder truly believed he was the most destructive fighter to ever walk. His talk was mostly out of confidence. He took his beatings like a man.
Broner on the other hand was an annoying Mayweather wannabie that just acted like a fool to get attention. He was like, right before the social media fighters exploded dying for attention themselves. I'll never forget that video where Broner went into a Walmart or something and threw his change in the air looking like a complete tool. Nobody there was impressed and it just came off cringe ASF.
Against who?
Don't matter against who when comparing resume to broner because he didn't beat any hall of famer either.
so career earnings wins out.
5 ppv > 1 ppv
They both were mid. It's hard to compare 2 guys with hardly any substantive accomplishments. Having a lot of title defenses doenst mean diddly when its against nobodies just like moving up divisions to fight nobodies doenst mean much so do you prefer a long run of mediocrity or moving up mediocrity? I say tie
I wasn't a fan of either and I think they both warrant criticism.
AB was a decent boxer with some power but he stopped looking impressive when he could no longer weight-bully opponents. His punch output was unacceptable and he rarely took risks in fights.
Wilder secured his title against a very pedestrian Stiverne and followed it up with very lackluster opposition (Drummer Boy, Breazeale, Duhaupas, etc.). I don't think Ortiz was quite as good as he's made out to be and Wilder took the Fury fight because he thought he was a name that would be easy pickings.
As I said, both resumes warrant criticism but Wilder was at least willing to go out on his shield in fights.
I'm not sure anyone on this thread has claimed Wilder to be any more than what he was. You don't like Wilder we get that. Explain why Broner has a better career....
They both were mid. It's hard to compare 2 guys with hardly any substantive accomplishments. Having a lot of title defenses doenst mean diddly when its against nobodies just like moving up divisions to fight nobodies doenst mean much so do you prefer a long run of mediocrity or moving up mediocrity? I say tie
Wilder turned down 100 million...
I'm not sure anyone on this thread has claimed Wilder to be any more than what he was. You don't like Wilder we get that. Explain why Broner has a better career....
How will it age well? None of the guys he beat went on to do anything. It's only been a couple years and already people are starting to realize wow besides ortiz there is nothing there.
Wilder and his hype were based on what he could or would do when he matched up with the better fighters, we saw what happened. Loss after loss. I suppose its possible his loyalist fans will carry the torch for him but people without emotional investment will see a slim resume and lots of soft defenses before being exposed.
The question was a comparison of Wilder vs Broner. I'm ambivalent towards Wilder and I am aware that you aren't a fan of his. I was t evaluating his career in any way other than in comparison to Broner.
So, going back to Wilder vs Broner...which fights do you think would be replayed on a channel like ESPN Classic or rewatched on YouTube? The DeMarco fight? His loss to Maidana? What fights of his were entertaining?
Wilder had a lot of highlight reel KOs (even if it was against limited opposition), in addition he had the first Ortiz fight and the third Fury fight...those were entertaining scraps.
I don't think either fighter has some impeccable resume but because of styles, one of them generated exciting moments and exciting fights. The other did not. And people remember moments as much as anything.
In my perspective, Deontay Wilder had the better career. While both Adrian Broner and Wilder had notable achievements, Wilder’s reign as the WBC Heavyweight Champion and his 10 successful title defenses stand out significantly. He faced tougher competition in the heavyweight division, including matchups against the likes of Tyson Fury and Luis Ortiz, which showcased his resilience and power. Slope Game
And literally only 1 of those guys were ranked in the top 10(ring) this is a thing that people constantly quote as being a positive but in reality it shows how protected and soft he was matched. Innoue for example is fighting his 7th top 10 opponent in a row with 3 guys being 1 or 2. Wilders highest ranked title defense was Ortiz who was 5. He clearly was not mixing with the best and when he did he lost terribly.
Wilder made 10 defenses and had 5 ppv fights. While making over 40 million
Broner turned down a 5 fight/40 million dollar deal from roc nation to stay with haymon. He never made the 40 million that he turned down
Give me wilder career
Wilder turned down 100 million...
I will go with Wilder and I think his career and resume will age better over time. In addition to having slightly better wins, he had the trilogy with Fury. He didn't win any of the fights but they were violent wars and he went out on his shield.
Wilder always tried to win even if he was outclassed, Broner would merely opt out and try to survive. He never went out on his shield, he would just turtle up and implicitly surrender.
How will it age well? None of the guys he beat went on to do anything. It's only been a couple years and already people are starting to realize wow besides ortiz there is nothing there.
Wilder and his hype were based on what he could or would do when he matched up with the better fighters, we saw what happened. Loss after loss. I suppose its possible his loyalist fans will carry the torch for him but people without emotional investment will see a slim resume and lots of soft defenses before being exposed.
Wilder made 10 defenses and had 5 ppv fights. While making over 40 million
Broner turned down a 5 fight/40 million dollar deal from roc nation to stay with haymon. He never made the 40 million that he turned down
Give me wilder career
Against who?
Wilder made 10 defenses and had 5 ppv fights. While making over 40 million
Broner turned down a 5 fight/40 million dollar deal from roc nation to stay with haymon. He never made the 40 million that he turned down
Give me wilder career
I will go with Wilder and I think his career and resume will age better over time. In addition to having slightly better wins, he had the trilogy with Fury. He didn't win any of the fights but they were violent wars and he went out on his shield.
Wilder always tried to win even if he was outclassed, Broner would merely opt out and try to survive. He never went out on his shield, he would just turtle up and implicitly surrender.
In my perspective, Deontay Wilder had the better career. While both Adrian Broner and Wilder had notable achievements, Wilder’s reign as the WBC Heavyweight Champion and his 10 successful title defenses stand out significantly. He faced tougher competition in the heavyweight division, including matchups against the likes of Tyson Fury and Luis Ortiz, which showcased his resilience and power. Slope Game
Broner vs fighters that won a major (not counting secondary/interim) world title:
W vs Daniel Ponce de Leon UD 10
W vs Antonio DeMarco TKO 8
W vs Gavin Rees TKO 5
W vs Paulie Malinaggi SD 12
L vs Marcos Maidana UD 12
L vs Shawn Porter UD 12
L vs Mikey Garcia UD 12
D vs Jessie Vargas MD 12
L vs Manny Pacquiao UD 12
Titles won:
WBO 130 (1 successful defense; missed weight on the second defense and was stripped)
WBC 135 (1 successful defense, moved up in weight)
WBA 140 (missed weight and was stripped on the first defense)
WBA 147 (lost on the first defense)
Wilder vs fighters than won a major world title:
W vs Siarhei Liakhovich TKO 1
W vs Bermane Stiverne UD 12
W vs Bermane Stiverne KO 1
D vs Tyson Fury SD 12
L vs Tyson Fury TKO 7
L vs Tyson Fury KO 11
L vs Joseph Parker UD 12
Titles won:
WBC heavyweight (10 successful defenses)
I know I should use Ring/TBRB rankings instead of titles, but that's too much work so this is what you get.
I'd say the Stiverne and Ortiz wins for Wilder were better than anything Broner had, but Broner did become a four division world titlist. Ultimately both guys were a huge disappointment.
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