Madrimov beats Boots at 154

You’re crazy. Boots would overwhelm Madrimov in a bad way. By the way Karen has way more in his arsenal than Madrimov. Sure but he still wont fight him Typical Boots chit

You’re crazy. Boots would overwhelm Madrimov in a bad way. By the way Karen has way more in his arsenal than Madrimov.

This may be true, but? Describing ether one of those fighters 'As the future, is bestowing them with a very difficult task. That I don't think they have the ability right now to accomplish'. To be a long time dominant Champion, fighters need a specific set of skills and attributes 'Which are to be the absolute best fighter stylistically with their chosen fighting style. Then a fighter will need a combination of innate attribute's, which consist of a high level work ethic, a extreme attitude towards competition and violence'. The most dominant fighters with longevity in the sport 'If you analyse those fighters. It is not just their athletic and technical boxing ability which separate's them from the rest their nearest competition 'It is also their approach to the sport and passion, combined with their innate abilities. It is that formula, which has throughout the history of both combat sports and mostly all sports has produced dominant long reign champions. Or fighters with great longevity compared to their nearest competition'. Note: You can even still see the evidence of this today, in the Heavyweight Division 'This formula which I have highlighted, is one of the major reasons why? Anthony Joshua has been a top level Heavyweight boxer for so long. Yes Joshua lost his last fight, but he is still only one fight away, one rematch away, one win away from turning his career on a 180 degree trajectory'. Israil Madrimov and Jaron Boots Ennis are good fighters, but? I have personally not seen this combination of attributes within them as fighters to a very high level 'And formula in their career at play'. ​If Madrimov is able to beat Boots Ennis, then what does this victory really mean in terms of historical significance? Jaron Boots Ennis was not really a Elite Level Amateur fighter, and I personally think a fighter of his ability and level. Has benefited from being able to compete in this modern era of boxing. Jaron Boots Ennis has not actually won his IBF World title, by beating a Champion 'I am not sure how people can refer to Boots Ennis as the future. When in reality, he is not a proven Elite level fighter'. When the Anthony Joshua vs Daniel Dubois fight was made 'Anthony Joshua due to his prestige as a fighter, and entire career resume. Made that fight into a worthy world title fight, Joshua's involvement in the match up added prestige and historical significance. The fight was Daniel Dubois's first real World title fight, and he won. The victory proved that he was a worthy IBF World Heavyweight Champion'. To conclude: Jaron Boots Ennis is the current IBF Welter Weight Champion, but he has not really proven that he is a high level Champion 'Ennis has beaten no World Champions. He has a World title belt right now, because YES he is a World level fighter. Who has been fortunate enough to compete in this modern era of boxing'. If you have some ability and a good level of work ethic in today's boxing era 'At some point the likely-hood is that you will fight for a World title. This is due to the number of World title organisations, which increases the opportunities for fighters'. When I consider if a fighter is going to be 'A dominant fighter over the long term in their careers. I personally critique those fighters with a more old school evaluation'. Israil Madrimov and Jaron Boots Ennis are top level fighters, clearly World level fighters 'In the 154 pound division. But in my opinion, they are also their for the taking. There are no standout fighters in the 154 pound divisions, in terms of ability right now at top level. The entire division is there for the taking by a fighter, who is a true elite level fighter' etc.

Thanks Mula. Good to see you posting again. Haven't seen one of your posts in a while. That would be courtesy of ProBox and I still haven’t been told why lol

Good fughin post Thanks Mula. Good to see you posting again. Haven't seen one of your posts in a while.

Anyone using the Karen fight as a measuring stick is an idiot

I get the feeling people have ONLY watched Madrimov v Crawford, and not his other fights. The way he fought v Bud was different than the way he fights other guys. There's no guarantee he'd have the same gameplan vs Boots. Honestly he seems very like Boots. He's a switch hitter with good power in hands. He's usually walking guys down though. I think he's probably a little slower and less sharp than Boots, and Boots is huge. Boots would have 1.5" of height and a massive 7" reach advantage. When you've got a speed and reach advantage, that's a very difficult thing for even a skilled fighter to address, and even worse if you're an accomplished switch hitter, because that opens up counters after moves that other fighters can't do. Madrimov has more in the feint tool box, and is a pretty complete fighter, so I think that's a tough night for both guys. I will say we'd get real answers about both from that fight. I'd be curious to see Boots vs Michel Soro, if he doesn't want to jump straight to Madrimov. Good fughin post

I get the feeling people have ONLY watched Madrimov v Crawford, and not his other fights. The way he fought v Bud was different than the way he fights other guys. There's no guarantee he'd have the same gameplan vs Boots. Honestly he seems very like Boots. He's a switch hitter with good power in hands. He's usually walking guys down though. I think he's probably a little slower and less sharp than Boots, and Boots is huge. Boots would have 1.5" of height and a massive 7" reach advantage. When you've got a speed and reach advantage, that's a very difficult thing for even a skilled fighter to address, and even worse if you're an accomplished switch hitter, because that opens up counters after moves that other fighters can't do. Madrimov has more in the feint tool box, and is a pretty complete fighter, so I think that's a tough night for both guys. I will say we'd get real answers about both from that fight. I'd be curious to see Boots vs Michel Soro, if he doesn't want to jump straight to Madrimov.

Madrimov has gone from being underrated to overrated and I'd maybe even understand it a little if he fought really well or made adjustments but the reality is it was little more than a staring contest. People will act like it was some super high skill level that you're too casual to understand but it was just poor all round and neither really did anything. I mean I am assuming its based on his fight with Crawford as very few rated him at all prior and if you never I don't know how you can come away from the Crawford fight with such a vastly different opinion even if it was a close fight.

Whorimov ?!?!?

bud barely beat madrimov and bud is significantly more skilled than boots You are absolutely correct. Bud is more skilled. My only point was that Bud is a very accurate counter puncher; Who is more comfortable when his opponents are taking the lead. He is neither as reckless or take as many risks as Ennis in the ring. He is a lot more laid back and reserved. Whereas, Boots is the total opposite. He’s a fighter who is more comfortable when taking the lead. Which would leave him more vulnerable and susceptible to Madrimov counters. Who like Crawford is another good counterpuncher.

Is that a done deal? Madrimov vs Bohachuc? On the Fury v Usyk II undercard

I had Madrimov beating Crawford by a round. Could've gone either way but Madrimov was never getting a decision really. Put it this way, Crawford couldn't beat Madrimov 10 times out of 10, it would be pretty even. Boots would get whooped by Madrimov as it stands. Madrimov is excellent. If Crawford is elite, then Madrimov is right up there too. ​

Madrimov is a hard fight for anyone, Crawford barely skated by and crawford was dominating and knocking everyone out. Boots had a size advantage over everyone at 147 and when that is erased when he moves up to a full size jr middle who uses movement and has great stamina he will probably lose unless the judges and ref help him out. Barely skating by is winning a fight 8 rounds to 4

Unless, it comes by way of KO; Then I just don’t see how he can defeat Jaron Ennis. Both his punch volume and workrate are just too low. He only lands single counter punches at a time. Besides, Boots is a lot younger, naturally wider and punches a lot stronger than Terence Bud Crawford does. Bud is a lethal counter puncher who managed to hurt Madrimov. If Bud can do it then so can Jaron “Boots” Ennis. In any case, One of these dudes are getting stopped. If this fight ever comes to fruition. bud barely beat madrimov and bud is significantly more skilled than boots

Madrimov imo beats Boots Then again I think he will have a hard time at 154

Unless, it comes by way of KO; Then I just don’t see how he can defeat Jaron Ennis. Both his punch volume and workrate are just too low. He only lands single counter punches at a time. Besides, Boots is a lot younger, naturally wider and punches a lot stronger than Terence Bud Crawford does. Bud is a lethal counter puncher who managed to hurt Madrimov. If Bud can do it then so can Jaron “Boots” Ennis. In any case, One of these dudes are getting stopped. If this fight ever comes to fruition.

He is a big WW so a lot will depend on how much he can improve with the extra weight, and how much they improve their way of thinking after that fight, they need to stop thinking in terms of PBF flash and adopt a Marvin Haglers fighting mind, Bozzie is bad because he is pumping his boys tires up beyond reality, his corner was a joke and totally blind to whats going on, and this is having the wrong frame of mind in Boots, sit your showboating ass down between rounds, lock onto your opponent like a Lion and become a systematic machine just like Bam did in the fight before, that's the mindset, Boots has the ability he just got to concentrate on the fight and his old man needs to shut up and respect the opponent after all his son is doing the fighting while Bozzie beats an overbearing drum. And Madrimov vs Bohachuc coming up soon a very interesting fight. Is that a done deal? Madrimov vs Bohachuc?

I thought Boots was the future until last night. Aside from his lack of defense he doesnt seem to set traps or have great ring iq. he got power and skill and speed but that only gets you so far until you fight a top guy. And at 154 there are killers there. I think Madrimov’s awkwardness would have Boots confused Look at his resume. Not a lot of elites on it. Weak division. He could of been great in a different era or stomped into the dirt.

Madrimov is a hard fight for anyone, Crawford barely skated by and crawford was dominating and knocking everyone out. Boots had a size advantage over everyone at 147 and when that is erased when he moves up to a full size jr middle who uses movement and has great stamina he will probably lose unless the judges and ref help him out.