A LOT of people don’t know how to score fights.

I think controlling the action is a stretch. There's effective aggression and there's following someone and hitting gloves a lot. I don't feel Beterbiev was controlling the action a lot of the time, that's why most his moments of momentum were quite sporadic throughout the fight. He couldn't build anywhere near the momentum he usually does because Bivol landed quire a lot on him, threw less but landed more and much higher %. I can understand why some would say Beterbiev was controlling the tempo, but I still feel Bivol landed the better work in more rounds than Beterbiev did. for that reason I struggle to find more than 5 rounds for him. I thought Bivol took 7 rounds. it was super competitive though and needs a rematch, both of them are superb really. The only one that can beat them is each other. The gulf between them and the next best in the division is massive. People's opinions are gonna differ, the majority of people in boxing seem to feel Bivol nicked it. It's only right to let him have another shot. I don't think it was the right result but it is the result, so let's see it again. I thought he was effectively cutting the ring off and was forcing Bivol move. I’ve never seen Bivol move laterally and backwards so much and that’s because of Beterbiev. He was consistently piercing the guard too, you only have to look at Bivol’s face, even if they were deflecting of gloves they were still causing damage. I think a lot of people fell into the trap of choosing style over substance. Bivol was landing flashy combinations but he was on his bike for the majority of rounds. I feel the right man won but I’m definitely up for a rematch.

Beterbiev was landing the heavier shots and was largely controlling the action. I can maybe see a draw but suggesting this was a robbery is lunacy. I think controlling the action is a stretch. There's effective aggression and there's following someone and hitting gloves a lot. I don't feel Beterbiev was controlling the action a lot of the time, that's why most his moments of momentum were quite sporadic throughout the fight. He couldn't build anywhere near the momentum he usually does because Bivol landed quire a lot on him, threw less but landed more and much higher %. I can understand why some would say Beterbiev was controlling the tempo, but I still feel Bivol landed the better work in more rounds than Beterbiev did. for that reason I struggle to find more than 5 rounds for him. I thought Bivol took 7 rounds. it was super competitive though and needs a rematch, both of them are superb really. The only one that can beat them is each other. The gulf between them and the next best in the division is massive. People's opinions are gonna differ, the majority of people in boxing seem to feel Bivol nicked it. It's only right to let him have another shot. I don't think it was the right result but it is the result, so let's see it again.

8-4 is fine. I had the same card. Most people gave Artur 9-12 consensus. 5-7 as well. That's six consensus rounds to Beterbiev. Well you are entitled to your opinion but you are in the minority in that opinion ofc we can all say "you don't know how to score boxing" and act like we are the only ones who do but when so many people are swaying one way... it's whatever it's done now i just think it was bullshit and sketchy af.

Beterbiev won his rounds by more and hit harder but in the ten point must system I HAD BIVOL WIN more rounds hence the fight. I am a CANADIAN and like both fighters but what I saw was Bivols gameplan and effort look like the winning one. He took the rounds off he needed to and its not like its easy to lose 10-8 unless you get dropped. He stood his ground when he needed to. Threw longer combos than Artur. The scores should have been reversed from watching on my tv. I was not ringside looking up so maybe it looked different to the judges. Some people saying Artur hit gloves all night, some say he landed. If he landed so much and hits so hard then it still didn’t drain Bivol enough over twelve. He went to the body only a couple times. I think a draw was as close as I could possibly hope for Beterbiev to get from what I saw. It wasn’t a 15 round fight. Don’t start slow. Artur needed to at least rock or wobble Bivol to prove he was doing that much more damage. He didn’t. He didn’t feel safe to put a bunch of punches together vs a fresh Bivol either. Close fight, but wrong guy won as far as what I saw.

But thats not how boxing is scored. Beterbiev had small pockets where he clearly was landing well, but those were only in a few rounds. In most rounds Bivol was controlling tempo and landing shots. Beterbievs success were higher, but in fewer rounds. Bivol wasn’t controlling the tempo whatsoever. Beterbiev was bossing the action from round 3 onwards IMO. It was highly competitive but Beterbiev was definitely controlling the geography of the ring. Bivol landed the flashier shots but Beterbiev landed the heavier shots. I think that’s were the dissension comes from.

Tell that to Bivol’s heavily bruised face. Sheer delusion. But thats not how boxing is scored. Beterbiev had small pockets where he clearly was landing well, but those were only in a few rounds. In most rounds Bivol was controlling tempo and landing shots. Beterbievs success were higher, but in fewer rounds.

Bivol was going long periods just retreating with a high guard and not countering. He wasn't fighting the fight as a counter puncher, he occasionally landed a counter punch. I don't think it was as long of stretches as people think. He had a few rounds that ended that way, but most of those rounds he was clearly winning.

He did the last 2 - 3 rounds but before that he landed very little, that 116 - 112 card is sketchy af whatever way you look at it. 8-4 is fine. I had the same card. Most people gave Artur 9-12 consensus. 5-7 as well. That's six consensus rounds to Beterbiev.

Floyd? Are you arguing you can't be a ring general as a counter puncher? Bivol was going long periods just retreating with a high guard and not countering. He wasn't fighting the fight as a counter puncher, he occasionally landed a counter punch.

Controlling the action? If it was up to Beterbiev, he would’ve fought at close range and a high pace. He could only do that in spurts because Bivol largely controlled the action, landed the cleaner punches, and defended Beterbiev’s punches. He put on a masterclass and was robbed. masterclass is a stretch, a lot of the middle rounds were close. the final rounds were clear beter and the early rounds were most bivol. i never seen a guy who put on a clinic have a busted face like that.

“Barely landed”. Wow. Just wow. :lol1: He did the last 2 - 3 rounds but before that he landed very little, that 116 - 112 card is sketchy af whatever way you look at it.

This is a prime example of people not understanding what they’re watching and just parroting the same narrative as the commentary.

Dude was pinged and lit up all night. Barely landed a shot that wasn't on the gloves. That was a decision based on something other than boxing. 100% :lol1: :lol1: Hilarious.

Beterbiev barely landed **** what you talking about? Bivol was outboxing him the majority of the fight that scorecard was pure nonsense. “Barely landed”. Wow. Just wow. :lol1:

I’d never seen a ring general moving away that much Floyd? Are you arguing you can't be a ring general as a counter puncher?

He punched gloves all night Tell that to Bivol’s heavily bruised face. Sheer delusion.

Thank you. Getting outlanded doesn't matter within a given round, as long as you are moving forward you win the round. Missing punches doesnt matter, as long as you are moving forward. Having your opponent land more clean punches isn't important, as long as you move forward you are the winner.

Don’t forget the Canelo groupies. Now they need to come up with a new roadblock to keep Canelo from fighting Beterbiev C'mon, there was never a chance Canelo was fighting Beterbiev. He'll probably fight Eubank or Crawford or Plant again.

115-113 Beterbiev for me. A bunch of incels became Bivol fans after Bivol's wife accused him of domestic abuse and now those same people are crying robbery. Don’t forget the Canelo groupies. Now they need to come up with a new roadblock to keep Canelo from fighting Beterbiev

imagine taking the side of a professional boxing judge working in saudi arabia bivol got a more fair decision over the cash show in las vegas.