Youtubers have to come up with lies and fake news to drive up their viewership numbers. Even if they'd rather report true stories, there's nothing to report. There's total news blackout when it comes to PBC and its fighters, except when fights are announced. It's a mystery house and no one knows what's going on inside of it. In contrast, it's open house when it comes to other non-PBC entitie/s.
You Tubers have become bold and daring with their lies and click baiting. They can pretty much make up anything totally untrue and get away with it.
Posters known to have an agenda like Daggum and Ghostof make every excuse for Loma ducking Tank and Shakur. Sad.
He jumped at the chance to fight a bum like Kambosos. Then ran away.
Bob has already made clear when he comes back it will be an in house tune up first. Why try to make him look better by knowingly falsely suggesting it will be Zepeda or Shakur?
Tank will definitely use Loma ducking him as a reason ( or excuse) to make a really easy fight next.
Sucks for all of us as fans.
Tank continues to duck Shakur, he ducked Loma for 7 years. Loma isn't fighting anyone and spending time in Ukraine with family. When he returns 2025 it won't be against some cherry pick, it will likely be Zepeda or Shakur. Tank appears to be leaning towards a rematch with Cruz anyway. Gary Russell Jr. has also shown interest in a fight with Tank. He's been off for two years so he would be a perfect cherry pick for Tank.
Can't blame them for focusing on other fights. Frankly, fans should have more fighters to focus on instead of just one, two, three, who don't even fight often.
Lol have to apologize on my post... I meant to put paragraphs in and they didn't come up, it looked like a giant wall of text!:puppy_dog
If you have been browsing on YouTube, clickbaiters always have some fake, made up story to come up with.
Youtubers have to come up with lies and fake news to drive up their viewership numbers. Even if they'd rather report true stories, there's nothing to report. There's total news blackout when it comes to PBC and its fighters, except when fights are announced. It's a mystery house and no one knows what's going on inside of it. In contrast, it's open house when it comes to other non-PBC entitie/s.
If you have been browsing on YouTube, clickbaiters always have some fake, made up story to come up with. One channel a week or so ago says Tank's fight with so and so guy is confirmed, etc. Two weeks later, another name comes up... I mean why is this so difficult to make a guess as if he's got tons of choices in the PBC house. There's only Valenzuela, who isn't ready for his next fight until next year, according to him and his trainer Robert Garcia.
The other one is Edwin De Los Santos, there you go. Who else is there for him? Question is do Tank or his team want this fight? No one knows.
and what was tanks offer??? you do know that tank regulary makes 10 times more than his bum opponents right? you think loma will accept that offer? even against garcia tank robbed him with a sh-itty split on top of the catchweights and rehydro clauses. loma not taking a crap offer doenst mean anything and all the evidence we have so far shows tank makes crap offers to crap opponents. loma has regularly fought top guys and paid top guys fairly. tank has not. tanks team even said that loma didnt like the money beign offered because he was the b-side so make of that what you will. you are probably the same type of person that would say ggg ducked ward because he turned down wards offer without even looking at what the offer actually was which was a complete farce, not saying this offer was a farce, but there is no evidence to show tank made a legit push for the fight, all we know is they didnt get a deal done, and like i said tanks history of lowballs and purse gobbling shoudlnt give us any confidence that now hes ready to negotiate in good faith. when you can tell the person you are negotiating with isnt doing it in good faith, you walk away. not saying that is what happened but we know tank has ducked everyone the last 7-8 years so its hard to trust that now hes ready to take real fights, maybe they think loma is old enough now, but if thats the case make him a legit offer, dont do the floyd-pac oh you only get 40 million flat offer no ppv BS
Stop defending your boy ducking Tank. Geez.
There are probably people who would just as soon undermine the Stevenson fight because they are afraid Tank would Murda him! (as they say in old Brooklyn!). This makes it ohhh so convenient for Tank to avoid this fight lol. I guess when there is no real money to be made following a fighter, if it is convenient and practical to simply duck. That is what these guys are doing. Tank fought Garcia, or the version of Garcia that constitutes Garcia's skeleton... because Garcia brings money to the table. These guys are just not about legacy... it is the Pink Floyd, I mean Money Mayweather Floyd, era! Keep your goose egg! legacy? what is that? Mayweather himself fought Oscar for a similar reason. Tank was raised up in that way of thinking, even if he denies it.
Bottom line is fighters can avoid any fight whether it be unification, mandatory, clamored by fans, ordered by XYZ orgs, etc. citing business reason, injury, mental health, wife issues, you name it. Except the word "ducking" is not applied in a broad sense, but determined subjectively by biased fans.
The Stevenson/Tank potential fight didn't even get to a back and forth stage. It's just completely ignored by Tank.
It's also a business with inconsistent fans. They were pressing Crawford to fight Ennis ignoring the business side of it. Yet they won't apply the same pressure here and instead do a complete turn around and say Shakie is not a good business plan for Abdul Wahid.
There are probably people who would just as soon undermine the Stevenson fight because they are afraid Tank would Murda him! (as they say in old Brooklyn!). This makes it ohhh so convenient for Tank to avoid this fight lol. I guess when there is no real money to be made following a fighter, if it is convenient and practical to simply duck. That is what these guys are doing. Tank fought Garcia, or the version of Garcia that constitutes Garcia's skeleton... because Garcia brings money to the table. These guys are just not about legacy... it is the Pink Floyd, I mean Money Mayweather Floyd, era! Keep your goose egg! legacy? what is that? Mayweather himself fought Oscar for a similar reason. Tank was raised up in that way of thinking, even if he denies it.
Nobody knows what's going on inside the PBC mystery island. It's off limits to media people. Look at this site, they've got nothing when it comes to Wahid, the other so-called face of boxing.
Can't blame them for focusing on other fights. Frankly, fans should have more fighters to focus on instead of just one, two, three, who don't even fight often.
and what was tanks offer??? you do know that tank regulary makes 10 times more than his bum opponents right? you think loma will accept that offer? even against garcia tank robbed him with a sh-itty split on top of the catchweights and rehydro clauses. loma not taking a crap offer doenst mean anything and all the evidence we have so far shows tank makes crap offers to crap opponents. loma has regularly fought top guys and paid top guys fairly. tank has not. tanks team even said that loma didnt like the money beign offered because he was the b-side so make of that what you will. you are probably the same type of person that would say ggg ducked ward because he turned down wards offer without even looking at what the offer actually was which was a complete farce, not saying this offer was a farce, but there is no evidence to show tank made a legit push for the fight, all we know is they didnt get a deal done, and like i said tanks history of lowballs and purse gobbling shoudlnt give us any confidence that now hes ready to negotiate in good faith. when you can tell the person you are negotiating with isnt doing it in good faith, you walk away. not saying that is what happened but we know tank has ducked everyone the last 7-8 years so its hard to trust that now hes ready to take real fights, maybe they think loma is old enough now, but if thats the case make him a legit offer, dont do the floyd-pac oh you only get 40 million flat offer no ppv BS
How the he ll would you know the details of these offers you cite? And what do you determine to create some idea of a "good faith offer?" I can answer that: You do not know shiat. I kind of get the British fans who love their fighters and wade into the promotions, and they can start to sound ridiculous... But here you are, some casual on a board, telling people you know the details of offers made by the likes of Ward, and Tank, enough to determine "a good faith" offer. Really? :lol1: How would you determine that?
I actually agree with you that Tank cherry picks. But if you understand boxing at all... You can determine why Loma should not take this fight. Loma is already fighting up, as he has had to do what... most of his career? He would be fighting a puncher, while he is not getting younger... I mean look at the Leo Santa Cruz Tank fight. Granted Loma can move, but why would he subject himself, at this stage in his career, at the weight, to a fight with Tank? It would have to be a substantial offer! So what Tank offers is academic.
Regarding Ward: Ward never ducked opponents, when he fought Kovalev, (wasn't that who he chose over GGG ultimately?) Kovalev was considered as tough, if not tougher (and bigger) than Triple G. Again, YDKSAB! Kovalev was considered a much tougher fight for Ward. Yet you make it sound like Ward could do a Canelo and fight some journeyman, or... offer Triple G a bona fide... which is BS when we look at the context, isn't it?
He should have taken the Shakur unification fight. I'm sure majority of fans would be rooting for him to end the Stevenson hype and the boring-ness associated with it. Or at least dampen it down to realistic levels. But this is boxing. It's not a sport, it's a business, a complicated one. They don't even do business when both fighters are free agents and can fight anywhere they want to, which is the situation here; Stevenson leaving Arum and Davis leaving Floyd.
The Stevenson/Tank potential fight didn't even get to a back and forth stage. It's just completely ignored by Tank.
It's also a business with inconsistent fans. They were pressing Crawford to fight Ennis ignoring the business side of it. Yet they won't apply the same pressure here and instead do a complete turn around and say Shakie is not a good business plan for Abdul Wahid.
He should have taken the Shakur unification fight. I'm sure majority of fans would be rooting for him to end the Stevenson hype and the boring-ness associated with it. Or at least dampen it to realistic levels. But this is boxing. It's not a sport, it's a business, a complicated one. They don't even do business when both fighters are free agents and can fight anywhere they want to, which is the situation here; Stevenson leaving Arum and Davis leaving Floyd.
and what was tanks offer??? you do know that tank regulary makes 10 times more than his bum opponents right? you think loma will accept that offer? even against garcia tank robbed him with a sh-itty split on top of the catchweights and rehydro clauses. loma not taking a crap offer doenst mean anything and all the evidence we have so far shows tank makes crap offers to crap opponents. loma has regularly fought top guys and paid top guys fairly. tank has not. tanks team even said that loma didnt like the money beign offered because he was the b-side so make of that what you will. you are probably the same type of person that would say ggg ducked ward because he turned down wards offer without even looking at what the offer actually was which was a complete farce, not saying this offer was a farce, but there is no evidence to show tank made a legit push for the fight, all we know is they didnt get a deal done, and like i said tanks history of lowballs and purse gobbling shoudlnt give us any confidence that now hes ready to negotiate in good faith. when you can tell the person you are negotiating with isnt doing it in good faith, you walk away. not saying that is what happened but we know tank has ducked everyone the last 7-8 years so its hard to trust that now hes ready to take real fights, maybe they think loma is old enough now, but if thats the case make him a legit offer, dont do the floyd-pac oh you only get 40 million flat offer no ppv BS
loma didnt fancy the fight, it is what it is
You conveniently left off his last 2 opponents. Even still, those 4 are better than Benavidez last 5 opponents.
Zombie garcia? Yeah great stuff. Benavides has a much better resume than tank and he has far less clout in boxing.
Cristobal Cruz
Leo Santa Cruz
Hugo Ruiz
Hector Garcia
Yuriorkis Gamboa
Gervonta Davis cherry picked all these guys.
You conveniently left off his last 2 opponents. Even still, those 4 are better than Benavidez last 5 opponents.
loma let him down so he has to go again getting something arranged
and what was tanks offer??? you do know that tank regulary makes 10 times more than his bum opponents right? you think loma will accept that offer? even against garcia tank robbed him with a sh-itty split on top of the catchweights and rehydro clauses. loma not taking a crap offer doenst mean anything and all the evidence we have so far shows tank makes crap offers to crap opponents. loma has regularly fought top guys and paid top guys fairly. tank has not. tanks team even said that loma didnt like the money beign offered because he was the b-side so make of that what you will. you are probably the same type of person that would say ggg ducked ward because he turned down wards offer without even looking at what the offer actually was which was a complete farce, not saying this offer was a farce, but there is no evidence to show tank made a legit push for the fight, all we know is they didnt get a deal done, and like i said tanks history of lowballs and purse gobbling shoudlnt give us any confidence that now hes ready to negotiate in good faith. when you can tell the person you are negotiating with isnt doing it in good faith, you walk away. not saying that is what happened but we know tank has ducked everyone the last 7-8 years so its hard to trust that now hes ready to take real fights, maybe they think loma is old enough now, but if thats the case make him a legit offer, dont do the floyd-pac oh you only get 40 million flat offer no ppv BS