I think Inoue looks beatable at 122 and above.

Bud has never been knocked down. :rolleyes: Officially, no. But we both saw the Kavaliauskas fight. Nothing to be ashamed of, he recovered and stopped his opponent. Showed greatness.

Monster has been knocked down once. Same amount as Bud. Bud has never been knocked down. :rolleyes:

Madrimov didn’t fight Gary Russel jr his first fight or Orlando salido his 2nd fight and Rigo beat prime nonito donaire in his 12th fight Its ridiculous to try and give bud credit like he beat a Lomachenko/Rigo level fighter robeisy Ramirez got knocked out by some random guy… bud struggled with a guy with 10 fights… bottom line Madrimov hasn't had the opportunity to fight a Donaire type fighter. His outing against Bud proves he's a quality fighter, which is why you don't see guys at 154-160 calling him out in mass He's 30 years old & an accomplished Eastern bloc fighter. You act like he's a 22 year old novice.

I disagree. Monster's been knocked down multiple times. Bud's beaten everybody convincingly. He's never had a controversial decision & never been knocked down. Monster has been knocked down once. Same amount as Bud.

That's a ridiculous metric. Lomachenko & Usyk were both P4P #1s with under 20 fights. Guillermo Rigondeaux was on every P4P list in the world in 10-15 fights. Guys who come from the Eastern European/Cuban schools of boxing that are amateurs for a long time turn pro late, that's why they don't have that many fights. Madrimov is 30 years old. Madrimov didn’t fight Gary Russel jr his first fight or Orlando salido his 2nd fight and Rigo beat prime nonito donaire in his 12th fight Its ridiculous to try and give bud credit like he beat a Lomachenko/Rigo level fighter robeisy Ramirez got knocked out by some random guy… bud struggled with a guy with 10 fights… bottom line

Buds the man but he can’t be p4p number 1 anymore with that kind of performance against somebody with ten fights he had a long run I personally had him number one since ward retired and they tried to crown that duck canelo despite aging ggg out and running back to 154 to wait and hide That's a ridiculous metric. Lomachenko & Usyk were both P4P #1s with under 20 fights. Guillermo Rigondeaux was on every P4P list in the world in 10-15 fights. Guys who come from the Eastern European/Cuban schools of boxing that are amateurs for a long time turn pro late, that's why they don't have that many fights. Madrimov is 30 years old.

I think he can win a title at 126. he will struggle, but he is a top fighter, he should go for it.

126 is his limit in terms of beating good fighters I agree he is more beatable at 122 also, but I just think he's too talented for the others around there right now. 126 is where size will start to counteract his talent in a bigger way. Exactly how I see it.

That's not true at all. Bud controlled the hell out of that fight. It was an 8-4/9-3 fight easy. Madrimov just did better than people thought because they didn't know him. Buds the man but he can’t be p4p number 1 anymore with that kind of performance against somebody with ten fights he had a long run I personally had him number one since ward retired and they tried to crown that duck canelo despite aging ggg out and running back to 154 to wait and hide

The best/most lucrative fight was Spence. Spence was a universally ranked top 5-10P4P fighter & the mot valuable scalp around. Part of the reason I want to see Inoue vs Nakatani next year before he moves to feather is that Fulton was supposed to be the in his prime slick skilled borderline P4P fighter that Inoue was going to have the higest challenge in his career and a significant test, who suddenly became an overrated featherfisted average beltholder with flaws that was easy picking for Inoue after he dismantled him. At least Nakatani is actually in the P4P as of now and the only realistic opponent Inoue has in his weight class vicinity, because unfortunately Bam is a bit too far still.

126 is his limit in terms of beating good fighters I agree he is more beatable at 122 also, but I just think he's too talented for the others around there right now. 126 is where size will start to counteract his talent in a bigger way.

That's not holding bud to same standards then. Bud should have moved up 5 years ago then. And not hung around at WW so long The best/most lucrative fight was Spence. Spence was a universally ranked top 5-10P4P fighter & the mot valuable scalp around.

Bud had the longer reach and back pedaled all night He was the one that was not trying to engage because that right hand was landing on him no excuses but he is an old man and has fought everyone put in front of him and has never ducked anybody just like the younger inoue so I agree that bud deserves some slack because he fighting Father Time to That's not true at all. Bud controlled the hell out of that fight. It was an 8-4/9-3 fight easy. Madrimov just did better than people thought because they didn't know him.

You have to admit, Inoue has beaten his opponents much more convincingly than Bud has. I disagree. Monster's been knocked down multiple times. Bud's beaten everybody convincingly. He's never had a controversial decision & never been knocked down.

Everyone looks beatable cause everyone takes hit but let's be honest here. He has four fights at 122 and 3 of them was ranked within the top 3 and the other was a top 10 fighter. I have a hard time counting the number of rounds he lost when I watched him. There's on clear one against Nery and the rest he clearly wins or he wins comfortably. Point of fact, Inoue has scored more 10-8 rounds vs his opponents than his opponents have won rounds at all against him.

As good as he is he looks like he's taking a few punches to me .

I think Nakatani can beat him at 122.

What I’ve noticed throughout his whole campaign is that he doesn’t take the lesser guys as serious Do you think Inoue could meet his own Buster Douglas one day?

That's not holding bud to same standards then. Bud should have moved up 5 years ago then. And not hung around at WW so long - - Needed the Spence payday as his whole career has cost Arum a fortune in promoting him. Inoue should mop up 122 and retire. Division hopping way overrated and eventually Arum will figure out a way to sacrifice him.

What I have noticed in recent years is Inoue carrying lesser opponents for a few rounds more than the really dangerous ones. What I’ve noticed throughout his whole campaign is that he doesn’t take the lesser guys as serious If you look at his physique during the Fulton weigh in he came in incredible shape looking like the terminator fast forward to his fights with tapales and doheny tapales looked more cut up and in better shape than inoue… Inoue body looked kind of soft during the doheny weigh in too… if you look at Crawford he never comes in softer for different opponents he always comes in tremendous shape like inoue was for the Fulton fight