Saturday, August 3rd Jared Anderson moment of TRUTH

The Bobfather and the rest of Top Rank knew what was up with Anderson Bakole just cemented it

Anderson did supremely better than the Cuban Frank Sanchez who was heavily hyped in comparison.

This guy was nowhere near ready for this. too unexperienced. Martin fight was a big red flag already. The pushed him for this pay day, but he could be ruined already.

I agree. Bakole looked great, purposeful. Anderson isn't what his promoters hoped he was and we as observers can never unsee what we saw. that was a Norton - Bobick moment. Done. Ruiz and Miller both live near to the top, in the top 15, but need to atay active, trim more and work hard. ​​ I thought that Miller won it razor close. People love to give Miller crap for his PEDS bust and his Offensive Lineman build, but he has a lot going for him. I can well imagine that if he'd gone through as Joshua's challenger, he'd have got the quit out of A.J. Just too much smoke there! Never bought into Anderson, just like Wilder I believe he was hyped because America hadn't had a really recognizable name/champion since Shannon the cannon so were just desperate for anyone to fill that void. Possibly AJ was slightly more reckless back then he probably would've bent the knee eventually to the relentless pressure

I reckon I was right, he squeaked by him just didn't get the nod. I agree. Bakole looked great, purposeful. Anderson isn't what his promoters hoped he was and we as observers can never unsee what we saw. that was a Norton - Bobick moment. Done. Ruiz and Miller both live near to the top, in the top 15, but need to atay active, trim more and work hard. ​​ I thought that Miller won it razor close. People love to give Miller crap for his PEDS bust and his Offensive Lineman build, but he has a lot going for him. I can well imagine that if he'd gone through as Joshua's challenger, he'd have got the quit out of A.J. Just too much smoke there!

Got the Bakole win right, wonder if I'll be right about miller beating Ruiz... I reckon I was right, he squeaked by him just didn't get the nod.

Got the Bakole win right, wonder if I'll be right about miller beating Ruiz...

He’s only hyped up because of the stories he apparently knocked out Tyson Fury in sparring, otherwise nobody wouldve been talking about him so highly

He's just another American Hypejob, he looked bad against Martin, and got exposed by Bakole

Its do or die time for Andy Ruiz, Jarrell Miller, Martin Bakole and Jared Anderson!!!! The picks are very tough.

Anderson will be fine, win or lose. He's not as hyped up as that Cuban fellow, what's his name, Frank Sanchez?

This is a pretty dangerous fight for Anderson. JA is speedy and athletic, but he can be touched. I think Anderson will need to showcase his boxing acumen because exchanging with the heavier man is a recipe for disaster. He has to be physically and mentally ready for a distance fight. He cannot fall asleep.

Its a great fight. Bakole is a serious test. If Jared wins in convincing fashion we will know for sure hes the real deal. No doubt about it. I have a personal history with the Ring and her staffers dating back quite a few decades and generations, and I've stated before that their philosophy about ratings includes bringing prospects up from the rear in their ratings, which has resulted in deep prognostic wins and pure buffoonery, and everything in between. Anderson at no. 7 is an example of this approach, but he hasn't really earned that high a ranking yet. But should he shine here, the rank will be fully earned. If anybody regards me as coming off like a know-it-all type; rest assured that I confess to NOT knowing who wins this one. It's one of those TRUTH moments.

I respect your opinion, even if I don't agree. I am primarily interested in the technical aspect of the sweet science, and this generation being "superb" really feels like it just makes my point further. Heavyweight has its own particular appeal, and I will say I enjoyed Fury v Wilder 2&3, and Usyk v Joshua and Fury a lot. But I still prefer watching the likes of Chocolatito, Bam Rodriguez, Inoue, Junto Nakatani, etc, to most any heavyweight contest. I don't think you need to agree with me though, because if you enjoy something different, that's got nothing to do with me. Suffice it to say that we're both looking forward to Anderson v Bakole, eh? The respect is mutual crimsonfalcon07

Its a great fight. Bakole is a serious test. If Jared wins in convincing fashion we will know for sure hes the real deal.

Not IMO. Heavyweight is the open division. If you can win there, fight there, because that’s where the money is. You know that bigger men tend to prime later and last older than little fellers in boxing. The skill you're noticing in those smaller men is something special, but it won't work against the big boys, who may appear slower and less skille, but there are divisions for good reason. Forget things like age and think in terms of MILAGE. This is a superb generation of heavyweights. I respect your opinion, even if I don't agree. I am primarily interested in the technical aspect of the sweet science, and this generation being "superb" really feels like it just makes my point further. Heavyweight has its own particular appeal, and I will say I enjoyed Fury v Wilder 2&3, and Usyk v Joshua and Fury a lot. But I still prefer watching the likes of Chocolatito, Bam Rodriguez, Inoue, Junto Nakatani, etc, to most any heavyweight contest. I don't think you need to agree with me though, because if you enjoy something different, that's got nothing to do with me. Suffice it to say that we're both looking forward to Anderson v Bakole, eh?

He's 45. Almost as old as Pacquiao. Says something about the lack of depth and skill at heavyweight that guys in their mid 40's can still be considered relevant, or even top contenders. Not IMO. Heavyweight is the open division. If you can win there, fight there, because that’s where the money is. You know that bigger men tend to prime later and last older than little fellers in boxing. The skill you're noticing in those smaller men is something special, but it won't work against the big boys, who may appear slower and less skille, but there are divisions for good reason. Forget things like age and think in terms of MILAGE. This is a superb generation of heavyweights.

Anderson is not a high-profile guy and not so heavily hyped unlike others. Him losing is not that big of a deal, imho. It is a Very big deal for the United States to have a top 10 Heavyweight, and with Wilder having aged out and Ruiz at 35, Anderson is the man of the hour. But Martin Bakole is a strong step up, and might have something to say about all that.

Wilder is pretty much out. Fury and Usyk beat each other up. Joyce is probably on his way out, but we'll know for sure this Saturday how much he has left. When you mention Ortiz, you're talking about Luis Ortiz? I don't think anyone has considered him relevant for some time now. If people want to say he was a dinosaur when he lost to Wilder their first fight in 2018, what is he now, 6 years later? Is he approaching 52 years old? :skull: We rank Ortiz among the elite of this era.

Wilder is pretty much out. Fury and Usyk beat each other up. Joyce is probably on his way out, but we'll know for sure this Saturday how much he has left. When you mention Ortiz, you're talking about Luis Ortiz? I don't think anyone has considered him relevant for some time now. If people want to say he was a dinosaur when he lost to Wilder their first fight in 2018, what is he now, 6 years later? Is he approaching 52 years old? :skull: Even Andy, fat kid, Ruiz will be 35 in September. The whole present day HW division is riding off into the sunset