All this comments about money being offered by TR is nonsense if you can't have an estimate of what he deserves in a TDavis fight.
TR is offering him 5 fights for $3 million guarantee each. (I doubt broadcasters are making a killing on PPV these days, so talk of upsides are basically immaterial.)
So what's your guess? Why talk about he's being lowballed when you can't even make any estimate of what PBC is willing to offer him.
Shakur turned down a 5 fight deal offer from Top Rank worth $3 million each regardless of who he fights.
Of course, he's expecting to get at least $5 mil minimum guarantee from the Tank Davis fight.
I don't know. It's not my money. It's PBC to decide.
I would say 35%
Love him or hate him, Tank is the cash cow of American boxing, but Shakur is a perennial P4P level fighter & a world champion in 3 divisions, who just had the most watched fight all year on ESPN.
Split percentages mean nothing if there's no real dollar figure in it. Nobody knows what the size of this fight is. Or what is the exact dollar value of the pie.
I would say 35%
Love him or hate him, Tank is the cash cow of American boxing, but Shakur is a perennial P4P level fighter & a world champion in 3 divisions, who just had the most watched fight all year on ESPN.
The bigger question is who would Wahid fight next if its not Shakur? Berinchyk? Davis? Neither have name recognition. Pitbull is busy with Zepeda. Shakur will get like 30-35%
That's what many have been wondering about. If it's not Shakur, who else is there for him? Loma has been giving hints of retirement when in his post fight with Kambosos. So I wasn't surprised at all he's taking his time and refuse to accept offers.
The bigger question is who would Wahid fight next if its not Shakur? Berinchyk? Davis? Neither have name recognition. Pitbull is busy with Zepeda. Shakur will get like 30-35%
Would serve him right if he got offered 20% or 2 million. He thinks he's some big seller but can't even keep his home town fans in the arena. He never steps up when he's outclassing a guy and goes through the gears. If he's up against Tank we all know he's running the whole fight. Do people think he's some huge PPV draw? Because skills or not, it's the ability to draw and put butts in seats that matters when it comes to negotiating purses.
So what's your guesstimate?
Shakur was offered $3 million per fight for five fights regardless of who he fights by Top Rank. What should PBC offer him for a fight with Davis?
Not really
late ko coming for Davis
At one point , like everyone , Shakur will get tired and slip up and get caught but it will be late in the game
I guess we'll see, if they ever fight.
I know what you're saying.
PBC fans say what TR is giving is a lowball offer. Well, I'd like to know what PBC is offering, if there is one at all.
That's exactly what this thread is about. If you keep on crying it's a lowball offer, then you should be able to show proof that it is by providing comparisons. Eddie Hearn didn't place a bid on the Martin/Haney mandatory fight saying it's just a waste to spend $1 million on such fight, which is probably more attractive to see than any Shakur fight. Isn't that interesting? He won't spend even $1 mil on such fight. And here is Stevenson getting offered 3x that amount regardless of who he fights and turns it down.
I know what you're saying.
PBC fans say what TR is giving is a lowball offer. Well, I'd like to know what PBC is offering, if there is one at all.
Yeah except it's not a lowball offer. fking Spence got a guarantee of $1.5 million vs Ugas. $3 mill a fight for Shakur is more than fair for what he brings to the table. PBC fans have a room temp IQ usually.
The money has to come from somewhere. Sponsors won't pay for commercial time for unknown fighters. Networks aren't going to invest in fighters who can't draw flies. I do agree that they should offer fighters what they are worth, and in Shakur's instance he still only deserves a third of what Tank would make, at best.
And to make a reply of this part of your post, the sport of boxing is a complicated business, imho. For one, we have no way of knowing the exact size of every fight. If we say "Shakur only deserves one third of what Tank would make" we don't know how that translates to real figures, which is what most boxers are interested in knowing.
As a side note, there is one promoter, though, who don't even care about splits. Frank Warren of the UK. Now, I don't have clue what he was in the past or the negative things Brits mention when they talk about him. But I got curious when he was offering Avanesyan, who Frank promotes, to Eddie Hearn for Conor Benn. When Eddie mentioned about the money, Frank injected he (Hearn) should not worry about Avanesyan's paycheck. He would take care of it. Meaning he would pay Avanesyan whatever money he deserves in the fight. I was thinking, why can't promoters be all like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiO23Ey10Ws
I think because Shakur doesn't have much power, Tank will walk him down and check that chin by the mid rounds. He can't sit back and wait to counter Stevenson because he'll be waiting all night. So, Davis will have to go on the hunt.
Not really
late ko coming for Davis
At one point , like everyone , Shakur will get tired and slip up and get caught but it will be late in the game
Tank still gotta get by that stand back defensive stance that Skakur is known for but like I said in another post , Tank will catch him towards the championship rounds
I think because Shakur doesn't have much power, Tank will walk him down and check that chin by the mid rounds. He can't sit back and wait to counter Stevenson because he'll be waiting all night. So, Davis will have to go on the hunt.
Would YOU pay for a PPV on the strength of Shakur's name? I wouldn't. Haney's offer of 25% was extremely generous IMO. It's got nothing to do with skills and everything to do with his inability to go through the gears. If he's actually levels above, he should at least be able to TRY for a TKO. He doesn't sell, won't take any responsibility for that fact, and consequently massively overvalues himself. He's Rigo 2.0 except without even as much power as Rigo, and with a primadonna complex. We'll see who picks him up and for how much.
All this comments about money being offered by TR is nonsense if you can't have an estimate of what he deserves in a TDavis fight.
TR is offering him 5 fights for $3 million guarantee each. (I doubt broadcasters are making a killing on PPV these days, so talk of upsides are basically immaterial.)
So what's your guess? Why talk about he's being lowballed when you can't even make any estimate of what PBC is willing to offer him.
Its not what Shakur deserves. Its what the boxing fans deserve and they deserve to see tank fight for the other 3 belts instead of paychecks.