Heavyweight Shake up

Really shaken up. Get your bets in now and get rich. This one's on the house. No thanks nessisary. World Champion - Bakhodir Jalolov, Uzbekistan 1. Jared Anderson, USA 2. Richard Torrez Jr, USA 3. Vladyslav Sirenko, Ukraine 4. Diego Lenzi, Italy 5. Moses Itauma, England 6. Sonny Conto, USA 7. Evgeny Tishchenko, Russia 8. Joshua Edwards, USA 9. Oleksandr Zakhozhy, Ukraine 10. Alexis Barriere, Canada 11. Julio Cesar la Cruz, Cuba 12. Zordan Holman, USA 13. Patrick Brown, England 14. Steven Williams, USA 15. Jakhongir Zokirov, Uzbekistan 16. Nelvie Tiafack, Cameroon 17. Delicious Orie, England 18. Arslan Yallyev, Russia 19. Andriii Novitsky, Ukraine 20. Agit Kabayel, Germany 21. Abner Teixeira, Brazil 22. Daniel Dubois, England 23. Filip Hrgovic, Croatia 24. Loren Alfonso, Azerbaijan 25. Hearl Collins, USA 26. Muslim Gadzhimagomedov, Russia 27. Tony Yoka, France, France 28. Martin Bakole, Congo 29. Lazizbek Mullojonov, Uzbekistan 30. Alonzo Neal, USA 31. Teremoana Jnr, Australia 32. Efe Ajagba, Nigeria 33. Fabio Wardley, England 34. Enmanuel Reyes, Spain 35. Gurgen Hovannisyan, Armenia 36. Conor McCormack, England 37. Joseph Parker, New Zealand 38. Giorgi Kushitashvili, Georgia 39. Keon Massey, USA 40. Gareed Gaines, USA 41. Frazier Clarke, England 42. Marko Milun, Croatia 43. Aziz Abbes Mouhiidine, Italy 44. Lenier Pero, Cuba 45. Walter Karim Crucce, Argentina 46. Diarga Balde, Senegal 47. Viktor Jurk, Germany 48. Justice Huni, Austrailia 49. Gilbert Kabamba, USA 50. Jermaine Franklin Jr, USA 51. Djamili Aboudou Moindze, France 52. Mourad Aliev, France 53. Vangelis Nanitzanian, Greece 54. Willys Mendoza, Columbia 55. Sevon Langston, USA 56. Xuezhen Han, China 57. Sagar Sagar, India 58. Svetoslav Teterin, Russia 59. Aleski Dronov, Russia 60. Nikita Putilov, Germany

Comments (20)

Willow_The_Wisp

No, being able to beat up random bar guys does not make an impressive heavyweight contender. There's a reason Ngannou was able to stroll into boxing and drop and cut Fury in his debut. There's a reason Joshua and Wilder were able to fail out of two other sports each, then pick up boxing as 19 year olds and become Olympic medalists and world heavyweight titlists very quickly. If Wilder didn't fail at football and then basketball nobody would ever know about his punching power; if Joshua didn't fail at track and soccer, same story. It's because the skill level in the division is at a historic low right now. You're kidding, right? Ngannou boxed, boxed, boxed his way from Batié to Paris to the MMA Factory to MMA supremacy to Anthony Joshua's shoelaces. He's not so much an MMA goat who strolled into boxing as he is an amateur level boxer who strolled into MMA and knocked out the grapplers & kickers with a little cross training on defense. Nary a hint of Freestyle, BJJ, Muay Thai or Judo in his game. The Fury fight showed what happens when you don't put in some training and clown in the ring. The Joshua-Ngannou and Mercer-Silvia fights showed what happens when a 100 million dollar fighter and a 300k fighter try changing hats. And then, the insinuation that soccer snags all the best would-be fighters? As a yank I know little about that game aside from attending my granddaughter's games, but I beleive they...don't use their arms? Wow.

1y ago

Willow_The_Wisp

It's almost like weight classes exist for a reason and we're comparing skill levels, not size and strength. Don't be intentionally obtuse, you know exactly what people mean when they refer to skill level. Dubois and Hrgovic don't have an ounce of head movement, footwork, defense, technique, or intelligence between them. They both just lumbered toward each other throwing 1-2s until one of the couldn't anymore. Ah ha. So then, why would there be a correlation between heavyweights and lack of skill level?

1y ago

famicommander

That's an easy accretion to qualify. Put Naoya Inoue, Dmitrii Bivol, Terence Crawford or David Benavidez in the ring with Dubois and see what happens. The better fighter will win, as they tend to. It's almost like weight classes exist for a reason and we're comparing skill levels, not size and strength. Don't be intentionally obtuse, you know exactly what people mean when they refer to skill level. Dubois and Hrgovic don't have an ounce of head movement, footwork, defense, technique, or intelligence between them. They both just lumbered toward each other throwing 1-2s until one of the couldn't anymore.

1y ago

Willow_The_Wisp

The top 10 fight each other in BKFC all the time, but the problem is they all suck. I still watch because I love all combat sports, but it's drastically lower skill level and it's easy to see that. Same thing at heavyweight. I'm still going to watch every televised fight and sometimes the fights are still fun anyway, but I'm not going to delude myself into pretending Daniel Dubois doesn't suck. That's an easy accretion to qualify. Put Naoya Inoue, Dmitrii Bivol, Terence Crawford or David Benavidez in the ring with Dubois and see what happens. The better fighter will win, as they tend to.

1y ago

billeau2

Ok, I would also love to watch elite welterweights. problem is, There are not any. Welterweight division is absolute trash now and nobody foights nobody, which is even worse. Again, I like boxing, which is why I will watch Babic -Fisher also. i don`t watch elite fights only. Well Jake... the word elite does not mean all the flap jacks! Welterweight will always be a strong division because of biological reasons. It is a division where guys are strong enough, fast enough, to be savages... and still with a bit more weight be athletes in other sports... To be an elite Welter really means something, to be decent in a division where you are competing against the most typical athletic divisions in the world is not chopped liver either!

1y ago

famicommander

1y ago

billeau2

There are some younger guys coming up. Moses itauma is sensational if he manages to keep stable and able. But even some of the talented prospects have become fat, slovenly, unskilled and in love with their slow hitting power. Fabian Wardley was fantastic looking, with head movement, good instincts... The guy that showed up to his last fight? I did not recognize him lol. Torres might have the goods, just have not seen enough of him and what I have seen does not impress. jared Anderson seems disinterested.

1y ago

JakeTheBoxer

The top 10 fight each other in BKFC all the time, but the problem is they all suck. I still watch because I love all combat sports, but it's drastically lower skill level and it's easy to see that. Same thing at heavyweight. I'm still going to watch every televised fight and sometimes the fights are still fun anyway, but I'm not going to delude myself into pretending Daniel Dubois doesn't suck. Ok, I would also love to watch elite welterweights. problem is, There are not any. Welterweight division is absolute trash now and nobody foights nobody, which is even worse. Again, I like boxing, which is why I will watch Babic -Fisher also. i don`t watch elite fights only.

1y ago

billeau2

1y ago

Willow_The_Wisp

1y ago

famicommander

I guess you enjoy more "elite" welterweights and "elite" middleweights doing nothing. Heavywieghts are maybe not great, but they ifght. Top 20 guys fight each other. That is all I want. I like boxing, not twitter-boxing. The top 10 fight each other in BKFC all the time, but the problem is they all suck. I still watch because I love all combat sports, but it's drastically lower skill level and it's easy to see that. Same thing at heavyweight. I'm still going to watch every televised fight and sometimes the fights are still fun anyway, but I'm not going to delude myself into pretending Daniel Dubois doesn't suck.

1y ago

JakeTheBoxer

No, it's a 3 man division right now. The worst in men's boxing by a lot, except bridgerweight which I refuse to acknowledge. Usyk is #1 easily, Fury and Joshua are the only real contenders. Parker is on a decent run but I'll never forgive him for making me sit through those Fa, Chisora, Leapai fights and he basically turtled for 12 rounds against Joshua and didn't even try to win. Dubois and Zhang are awful, Kabayel is untested, Hrgovic and Anderson are both trash. I guess you enjoy more "elite" welterweights and "elite" middleweights doing nothing. Heavywieghts are maybe not great, but they ifght. Top 20 guys fight each other. That is all I want. I like boxing, not twitter-boxing.

1y ago

famicommander

You are saying this because you are American. I have no allegiance to any country. I'm harder on Jared Anderson than anyone.

1y ago

famicommander

Do you know anyone at the bar or the job site who can come collect his half a billion? No, being able to beat up random bar guys does not make an impressive heavyweight contender. There's a reason Ngannou was able to stroll into boxing and drop and cut Fury in his debut. There's a reason Joshua and Wilder were able to fail out of two other sports each, then pick up boxing as 19 year olds and become Olympic medalists and world heavyweight titlists very quickly. If Wilder didn't fail at football and then basketball nobody would ever know about his punching power; if Joshua didn't fail at track and soccer, same story. It's because the skill level in the division is at a historic low right now.

1y ago

JakeTheBoxer

I think it's a trash division right now so I'm not willing to back any of these guys until I see them prove it. You are saying this because you are American.

1y ago

famicommander

American hands typed this. You don't see a black American as champ so you discount everyone at the top now. Fury Usyk Zhang Joshua all would do well against pretty much anyone through history I'm not even black and no, Zhang would not do well against anyone through history. He's an incredibly slow, basic plodder who almost died trying to beat Jerry Forrest. He's old, fat, and isn't even aware that you're allowed to block or move your head out of the path of punches.

1y ago

Willow_The_Wisp

No, it's a 3 man division right now. The worst in men's boxing by a lot, except bridgerweight which I refuse to acknowledge. Usyk is #1 easily, Fury and Joshua are the only real contenders. Parker is on a decent run but I'll never forgive him for making me sit through those Fa, Chisora, Leapai fights and he basically turtled for 12 rounds against Joshua and didn't even try to win. Dubois and Zhang are awful, Kabayel is untested, Hrgovic and Anderson are both trash. Do you know anyone at the bar or the job site who can come collect his half a billion?

1y ago

PacDuran

I think it's a trash division right now so I'm not willing to back any of these guys until I see them prove it. American hands typed this. You don't see a black American as champ so you discount everyone at the top now. Fury Usyk Zhang Joshua all would do well against pretty much anyone through history

1y ago

famicommander

It's always the flagship division whether it sucks or not. It's a very good division now. No, it's a 3 man division right now. The worst in men's boxing by a lot, except bridgerweight which I refuse to acknowledge. Usyk is #1 easily, Fury and Joshua are the only real contenders. Parker is on a decent run but I'll never forgive him for making me sit through those Fa, Chisora, Leapai fights and he basically turtled for 12 rounds against Joshua and didn't even try to win. Dubois and Zhang are awful, Kabayel is untested, Hrgovic and Anderson are both trash.

1y ago

LITTLE_JOE

Thanks. I took the time to look at the videos of the USA fighters on the list and other than Anderson and Torrez, the rest of the Americans look woeful.

1y ago