Canelo is too small.
Fury had about 40 lbs advantage over Usyk.
So, lets say Crawford fights Bivol, Crawford comes about 160 lbs and Bivol comes about 183 in the ring on the fights night. If Crawford wins , he is as good as Usyk, I give him that.
I thought weight disparity didn’t really matter as much at heavyweight, cause when you are 270 lbs you’re not going to have the speed the agility the movement of someone at 230lbs, so in the end it evens itself out in terms of the advantages and disadvantages each fighter has
Whereas a 168lb vs a 147lbs, the difference in agility movement speed is far far less
Crawford`s resume is pure garbage.
I get it. You're trolling. Well done. Either that or you're smoking some special kind of crack.
Care to comment on Bivol's resumé?
Human physiology doesn't work like that. The smaller a fighter or any athlete is, the higher their power-to-weight ratio will be. That's why the 5lb weight difference between a flyweight and a bantamweight, if they are roughly equal in ability and both come in their divisional weight limits, would give a significant advantage to the bigger man. But at HW, a 5lb weight difference is insignificant.
The same thing applies to all living creatures. Scientist have calculated that if a flea and an ant were the same weight as the average human, and their power-to-weight ratios didn't change, the flea would be able to jump over the Empire State Building and the ant would be able to pick up an oak tree and carry it for miles.
Based on your eye test lol Floyd is 165 all these years and yet you cannot produce a shred of evidence anywhere to support that claim, well fancy that lol. Does this theory of yours mean all guys that weighin at 140 are 165 fightnight because Haney did, you need to go back to logic it operates around facts thats why logic pretty much always prevails.
If we had a magic crystal ball that knew all the answers , I would bet my life Floyd was never over 155 in a professional fight on fight night thats how sure I am on this, you wouldnt bet 100 dollars on Floyd being 165, Ive noted and heard all the numbers across Floyds 20 yr career because I follow their weights closely, my posts reflect that, and I know what Floyds weight is, if you want to be living proof that you dont need a long neck to be a goose go it for mate .
Haney doesn’t strike me as a 165 guy AT ALL so if he is, as documented by the commission on fight day I think you are underestimating to what lengths fighters go through to be a certain weight on the scales. Those commissioned weigh ins were never a thing back in the day, it was just rumours into what narrative fits best.
No it’s based on an eye test between 154lbs Floyd and 140lbs Haney who rehydrated to 165 lbs.
Based on your eye test lol Floyd is 165 all these years and yet you cannot produce a shred of evidence anywhere to support that claim, well fancy that lol. Does this theory of yours mean all guys that weighin at 140 are 165 fightnight because Haney did, you need to go back to logic it operates around facts thats why logic pretty much always prevails.
If we had a magic crystal ball that knew all the answers , I would bet my life Floyd was never over 155 in a professional fight on fight night thats how sure I am on this, you wouldnt bet 100 dollars on Floyd being 165, Ive noted and heard all the numbers across Floyds 20 yr career because I follow their weights closely, my posts reflect that, and I know what Floyds weight is, if you want to be living proof that you dont need a long neck to be a goose go it for mate .
Speaking of zero evidence what do you have stating Floyd is 165, Id say thats the definition of zero.
No it’s based on an eye test between 154lbs Floyd and 140lbs Haney who rehydrated to 165 lbs.
Still there is zero evidence of a commissioned weight check like the one they did for Devin Haney and his 25lbs cut.
Speaking of zero evidence what do you have stating Floyd is 165, Id say thats the definition of zero.
The question is for you to put up one shred of evidence that shows Floyd is 165 from fight videos where the commentators tell his fight night weight to actual snippets of records like in here., you cant because its BS so you throw logic out and run with your nothing assumption that's what you always do, the evidence is scattered all over you just got to find it, you can't find anything that says 160 plus anything.
Victor Ortiz was right before Cotto.
Floyd Mayweather Junior VS Victor Ortiz - Contested at Welterweight
Mayweather: 150
Ortiz: 164
https://basementgymboxing.blogspot.c...s-list-of.html
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Still there is zero evidence of a commissioned weight check like the one they did for Devin Haney and his 25lbs cut.
That was in 2003, the Cotto fight is in 2012. Question remains of at what time they where weighed again ? Early in the day or 5 minutes before the fight ?
The question is for you to put up one shred of evidence that shows Floyd is 165 from fight videos where the commentators tell his fight night weight to actual snippets of records like in here., you cant because its BS so you throw logic out and run with your nothing assumption that's what you always do, the evidence is scattered all over you just got to find it, you can't find anything that says 160 plus anything.
Victor Ortiz was right before Cotto.
Floyd Mayweather Junior VS Victor Ortiz - Contested at Welterweight
Mayweather: 150
Ortiz: 164
https://basementgymboxing.blogspot.c...s-list-of.html
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You got to look harder they look like this.
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That was in 2003, the Cotto fight is in 2012. Question remains of at what time they where weighed again ? Early in the day or 5 minutes before the fight ? Those things matter as well.
The only numbers that are disclosed are those on the scale before the rehydration so they will always be around 15lbs short of the actual fight weight in standard weight cutting practices. That every athlete engages in except for Floyd apparently, according to you.
You got to look harder they look like this.
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You are not proving anything, Haney is not Floyd , go get Floyds numbers that have been recorded across 20 yrs, get every number showing Floyd on a scale you can find, get all the official weighins and fightnight weights that were done, then present them to prove your case that he is 165 and up., dont muddy the water with BS about others we are talking about Mayweather not anybody else.
The only numbers that are disclosed are those on the scale before the rehydration so they will always be around 15lbs short of the actual fight weight in standard weight cutting practices. That every athlete engages in except for Floyd apparently, according to you.
Bottom it reads Haney, 140-165, 18% weight gain. So Floyd, similar height, bigger reach than Haney, who fought 2 divisions higher at 154, and was established at 147 for years, never looked outsized at 147, who used IVs to rehydrate is 10 lbs lighter than Haney who fights at 140lbs ?
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You are not proving anything, Haney is not Floyd , go get Floyds numbers that have been recorded across 20 yrs, get every number showing Floyd on a scale you can find, get all the official weighins and fightnight weights that were done, then present them to prove your case that he is 165 and up., dont muddy the water with BS about others we are talking about Mayweather not anybody else.
Rumors lol go do some real searching and then work with the numbers across the years, or at least show your numbers even in a rumor, no where is Floyd 165 pounds thats your own imagined BS to fit your agenda.
Of course you want to throw out logic because its based around fact lol.
Bottom it reads Haney, 140-165, 18% weight gain. So Floyd, similar height, bigger reach than Haney, who fought 2 divisions higher at 154, and was established at 147 for years, never looked outsized at 147, who used IVs to rehydrate is 10 lbs lighter than Haney who fights at 140lbs ?
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A 15lbs weight cut is pretty standard stuff, yet Floyd the only one not doing it whilst never looking outsized in any of his fights against opponents who all utilized weight cutting ?
He must beat Canelo, then Bivol, then beat the winner of Fury vs Usyk 2. Even if he wins all those, to really prove he is the best he must beat Fury and Usyk at the same time in a 1 vs 2 bout. No excuses! If Stone Cold Steve Austin can win 3 Royal Rumbles. Crawford can do this. Nash out
All those low 150 numbers on fight night are rumours. You only have weigh in numbers before the rehydration. If Haney comes in at 165 then Floyd who is more muscular, same height and fights 2 weight classes higher is coming in at 155 ? Screw logic.
Rumors lol go do some real searching and then work with the numbers across the years, or at least show your numbers even in a rumor, no where is Floyd 165 pounds thats your own imagined BS to fit your agenda.
Of course you want to throw out logic because its based around fact lol.
The scales are what they weigh what you say means nothing, the scales is hard proof, you can um and ah all you want the scales tells you what the weight is, while you are parading pics as proof go and get a photo of the Canelo Floyd, then the JMM Floyd and show me where the 13 pound supposed difference are.
You have no argument.
All those low 150 numbers on fight night are rumours. You only have weigh in numbers before the rehydration. If Haney comes in at 165 then Floyd who is more muscular, same height and fights 2 weight classes higher is coming in at 155 ? Screw logic.
There is no way Haney at 140lbs is 10 lbs bigger than 154 Floyd on fight night, who uses IVs for rehydration against PAC, and couldn’t hit the 144 agreed weight against Marquez. They are the roughly the same height 173cm vs 175cm.
The scales are what they weigh what you say means nothing, the scales is hard proof, you can um and ah all you want the scales tells you what the weight is, while you are parading pics as proof go and get a photo of the Canelo Floyd, then the JMM Floyd and show me where the 13 pound supposed difference are.
You have no argument.
Only a slow thinking guy will compare photos over the scale weight readings, only way to compare photos is with calipers referencing a known measurement thats in both pictures, and then it still doesnt coincide with weight.
There is no way Haney at 140lbs is 10 lbs bigger than 154 Floyd on fight night, who uses IVs for rehydration against PAC, and couldn’t hit the 144 agreed weight against Marquez. They are the roughly the same height 173cm vs 175cm.
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