Haney was exposed life is not fair

That is an interesting development. Asking out of curiousity: Do you have a source? Again, I believe you and am genuinely curious about how this could come to pass. https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-new-york-commission-work-together-on-hearing-ryan-garcia--183769 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/articles/cd11g38y2l7o.amp

I dunno man, now the WBC are involved and Garcia is claiming contamination, I think he might actually get away with it. That is an interesting development. Asking out of curiousity: Do you have a source? Again, I believe you and am genuinely curious about how this could come to pass.

Haney has been weight-frauding for a long time. He walks around at 190 lbs and fights at lightweight lmao. In what universe should that chinless fraud be fighting at 130lbs? Its insane :lol1::lol1: yeah I feel ya! you know... My boys did not inherit my size. They are built like their mom, walking around at like 155 (my younger) and 170 (my older). What I don't get is... I trained my boys but not for the ring. If my younger was going to fight in the ring I would try to teach him to fight up... not down. Yeah you get an advantage going down in weight, but its hard on the body, you are not at your strongest... Teach a kid who walks around at 155, to go middle weight. Its better for longevity, and if you can teach someone to fight at a lower weight you can teach them to fight at a higher weight. Broner had the same problem as Haney is going to have. When they had to fight at a real weight for them, they lost power. Thing is if byoub look at Haney hitting the bag, he is obviously a big kid and should not be fighting at 130, 135 or even 140. Like you say he walks around much bigger.

I dunno man, now the WBC are involved and Garcia is claiming contamination, I think he might actually get away with it. Never know do you mate. Guess we’ll soon find out.

Good point. With Whyte it wasn't just PED's. He used tampered gloves and Hearn still defended his ass. Just like he defended Conor Benn. Matchroom have shown a blatant disregard for fighter safety in regard to fighters testing positive several times now.

I think extremely likely to be changed to an NC. I dunno man, now the WBC are involved and Garcia is claiming contamination, I think he might actually get away with it.

Will be interesting to see how they rule, Whyte disgracefully kept his W against Rivas despite testing positive. I think extremely likely to be changed to an NC.

Take away the L and psychologically it can help Haney but physically and neurologically the imprint from the beating remains with him. If he believes that the only way Garcia beat him was due to PEDS, that may give him some confidence back. So it's a mixed bag of results for him if the L is removed. It's one of those "one the one hand, and on the other hand" type of opposites that he will mentally have to balance and cope with.

Assuming that Haney, someone who works with Conti, and has always tried to use rehydration to gain significant advantage, was not himself taking a substance can he erase what Ryan did? It seems it philosophical issue in some respects but one must ask when a boxer loses a fight under dubious circumstances can that loss be undone? Truly undone? Thought? Haney has been weight-frauding for a long time. He walks around at 190 lbs and fights at lightweight lmao. In what universe should that chinless fraud be fighting at 130lbs? Its insane

Will be interesting to see how they rule, Whyte disgracefully kept his W against Rivas despite testing positive. Good point. With Whyte it wasn't just PED's. He used tampered gloves and Hearn still defended his ass. Just like he defended Conor Benn.

If the fight gets changed to a no contest, which it absolutely should, then yes the loss is undone quite literally. They no longer hold the win. Does Devin use PEDs? I would say that’s quite the safe bet that he does but we don’t know for sure. Fact of the matter is, Ryan needed PEDs to beat Haney, so the win is void. Will be interesting to see how they rule, Whyte disgracefully kept his W against Rivas despite testing positive.

Some of the other fallout from this fight. If you notice Bill Haney was absent kind of left Devin to deal with things. Again something that cannot be undone. Certainly official records can be changed, we can try to punish cheating. Just wonder if it really matters in the final analysis. Will the Ryan gets this win officially or not certain things were revealed

On paper & boxrec you can undo an L. In ones head its a whole lot harder. Thinking you are still #1 is easy when you got your 0. Its easier when you got a controversial or close L. Its harder when you got dropped 3x in a fight. I think this is a large part of why guys come up with so many reasons they were 2nd best besides they were 2nd best. You gotta kinda fool yourself more than you need to fool others. It takes a certain level of delusion to think of 8 billion ppl on this planet you are the best at anything. That being the case I think a large amount of Devin's future depends on how much he honestly believes the PEDs helped Ryan on the night. Or how much he can fool himself into believing it. That said I think he also took a certain amount of life long diminishing damage in that fight & idk that you can ever undo that. This is the way I feel about it what actually happened has effects.

Change it to NC, sure. Can't undone the beating he took tho.

Everyone knows by now that Haney has a glass chin. And all fighters will benefit from this, including Matias. If he goes to 147 it will be even worse.​

this is one of those unusual cases when the guy got busted but too close to the fight to prevent it going ahead which hugely benefits the cheater in this case as he got paid a lot of money & literally doesnt really care about this stuff anyway as long as he gets paid and knows he can come back easily from a small ban as many many others have with no real longterm issues at all actually boxing is not a race, cheaters can potentially do more damage to their opponents if their strength and endurance is boosted by the peds

If the fight gets changed to a no contest, which it absolutely should, then yes the loss is undone quite literally. They no longer hold the win. Does Devin use PEDs? I would say that’s quite the safe bet that he does but we don’t know for sure. Fact of the matter is, Ryan needed PEDs to beat Haney, so the win is void.

what haney does to be the much bigger guy in the ring also i think is wrong but legal, boxing needs to ban cheaters correctly and respect weight classes, its baffling why they cant but its just an indication of how corrupt the sport actually is, literally noone cares i dont think as long as they are making money, lots of hands in the boxing pie

i hope haney is not damaged from that fight, cryin is most likely a cheat & he cheated x2 missing weight by a long way, he probably didnt even bother to make it either imo, stop rewarding cheats in the sport and making excuses for them and yes letting them off scott free at times all u are doing is encouraging more and more cheating by tolerating it really