Yeah the whole system is skewed, even the B sample everybody was waiting for, its the same sample lol just put in another vile, for the B to test negative it would only say the equipment is faulty it doesnt state Ryan was clean or the first sample was wrong, crazy setup they have considering the money involved.
Yeah it seems no one actually knows that the A Sample and B sample are the same sample :lol1:
It’s almost pointless checking it. Everytime these things happen people put so much stock into checking the B Sample when it’s almost as good as pointless.
At worst it’s incredibly unlikely be any different from the A results, as like you say, it’s the exact same sample.
Agree on all counts mate.
Yeah the whole system is skewed, even the B sample everybody was waiting for, its the same sample lol just put in another vile, for the B to test negative it would only say the equipment is faulty it doesnt state Ryan was clean or the first sample was wrong, crazy setup they have considering the money involved.
The batch numbers are the only way I could see any way it could hold weight in a court, if a same batch number supp tested positive you could fly with that, but you couldnt use what Ryan puts up as the sups he took he could easily have his bottle altered after the fact, if tainted sups are the new excuse then in multi million dollar events every supp consumed should have a sample give to the commission, claiming that's not my hand in the cookie jar doesnt wash.
They need to tighten the whole thing up, they need to block every loop hole or just stick to their guns and say your test is positive the onus was on you too bad your gone, its all to wishy washy considering the money involved.
Agree on all counts mate.
Yeah for sure there are ways to get more info to get closer to the truth but unless they have that exact supplement that he took (which they can’t) and test that then it will always be impossible to know.
I really don’t understand why athletes take over the counter supplements. The risk/reward is just as far from worth it as possible.
The batch numbers are the only way I could see any way it could hold weight in a court, if a same batch number supp tested positive you could fly with that, but you couldnt use what Ryan puts up as the sups he took he could easily have his bottle altered after the fact, if tainted sups are the new excuse then in multi million dollar events every supp consumed should have a sample give to the commission, claiming that's not my hand in the cookie jar doesnt wash.
They need to tighten the whole thing up, they need to block every loop hole or just stick to their guns and say your test is positive the onus was on you too bad your gone, its all to wishy washy considering the money involved.
That’s the only way Stainey could get a win or at the very least not lose, for someone to f. uck with the test results like Conte did.
Or maybe just don’t take PEDs in Ryan Garcia’s case.
True, but they have batch numbers only way I could see any legitimacy here would be for the commission to gather independently the same batch and test them , if Ryan handed over a bottle and said these were my supps I would not accept them.
Yeah for sure there are ways to get more info to get closer to the truth but unless they have that exact supplement that he took (which they can’t) and test that then it will always be impossible to know.
I really don’t understand why athletes take over the counter supplements. The risk/reward is just as far from worth it as possible.
Doesn’t wash either way to be honest.
Supplements are tainted, it is a problem, but there’s no way to prove he took one.
True, but they have batch numbers only way I could see any legitimacy here would be for the commission to gather independently the same batch and test them , if Ryan handed over a bottle and said these were my supps I would not accept them.
Produce the supplement to prove it, just saying so doesnt wash, be like a junkie saying he only took vitamins and the crack must have been in them.
Doesn’t wash either way to be honest.
Supplements are tainted, it is a problem, but there’s no way to prove he took one.
how about a tainted supplement?
Produce the supplement to prove it, just saying so doesnt wash, be like a junkie saying he only took vitamins and the crack must have been in them.
Do you think he takes the taco route? Pretty sure I saw a Youtube vid of him eating only vegan tacos. Good luck explaining that.
I’d imagine he will go the tainted supplement route.
Incoming Ryan Garcia meltdown.
Has to mention the elites wanting to hold him down and then throw God in there somehwere for a little extra razzle dazzle.
Don't forget he was forced to watch rape...ptsDUMBASS lol
It was the elites. That's what they were pumping into him when he was tied to that tree!
Was this before or after our meeting with the caustic Lizard People who live underground? I forget, I must be anemic from the lack of baby blood smoothies we would drink in our underground chambers under miscellaneous pizza parlors.
but he signed up to vada willingly so anyone who signs up & knows they are being strictly tested who gets busted is automatically innocent as noone would consume peds knowingly if they were signed up to strict testing
NC incoming.
This is a pretty big deal - this is the first time I think in the history of boxing, at least in the US, where the fighter who won the main event in a major PPV tested positive and will have his win overturned.
First time ever.
the guy didnt make weight, had peds in his body, made a lot of money im sure, he doesnt really care, he will just end up using this as another victim thing, see what i have to overcome, everyone is against me type of thing
That's my thing. If you're in it just for the $$$, knowing that you'll get perhaps a small fine or suspension, but get to keep your purse, what's from stopping a lot of fighters from doing this? We need much stricter consequences. Clearly suspensions don't matter in boxing. You give a guy 6 or 8 months suspension. Guess what, Crawford hasn't fought in almost a year since his biggest win of his career and he wasn't caught with anything. Fighters take long layoffs following big paychecks. They don't need to immediately get back in within 4-5 months like fighters years ago.
The fines are too small and knowing that, they can set aside money to cover it like it's no big deal. What they really need to do is go after their actual purse. In the contract it has to be said that being caught, you agree to forfeit your purse. Something to that extent where the fighter it agreeing to a huge consequence. That'll make them think twice about being caught since 90% of fighters, regardless of titles, career status, are in it for the money.
i always chuckle when i read the line that is pretty much always uttered in all ped cases
something like, but the levels were not high enough to be of any use
Well he's going to have to go in front of the NYSAC and plead his case. Can't blame Ostarine on tainted beef.
But you can blame it on tainted supplements.
Which are one and the same as tainted meat.