Was Devin Haney weight cheating?

No such thing as weight cheating or bullying. This term is a creation of losers on NSB who need an excuse when a boxer they like loses to someone they do not. That or they preemptively try to create an excuse when they believe in their heart and soul the boxer they want to win will lose. If you make weight, you make weight. Ask Rougarou what he thinks lol

No such thing as weight cheating or bullying. This term is a creation of losers on NSB who need an excuse when a boxer they like loses to someone they do not. That or they preemptively try to create an excuse when they believe in their heart and soul the boxer they want to win will lose. If you make weight, you make weight. Not at all I would call out anyone who be doing that Like I said , your right , you make weight you make weight but rehydrating overnight to 25 pounds sound crazy to me Don’t you think

No such thing as weight cheating or bullying. This term is a creation of losers on NSB who need an excuse when a boxer they like loses to someone they do not. That or they preemptively try to create an excuse when they believe in their heart and soul the boxer they want to win will lose. If you make weight, you make weight.

Wrong thread............ Brother lol

Haney has been doing what the ABC’s ask for but rehydrating 25 pounds in one evening sounds very skeptical He’’s cheating in a legal way By doing so , it makes weight classes non existent It’s a loophole which needs fixing imo Wrong thread............

Haney has been doing what the ABC’s ask for but rehydrating 25 pounds in one evening sounds very skeptical He’’s cheating in a legal way By doing so , it makes weight classes non existent It’s a loophole which needs fixing imo

It is called weight draining, and? At some point it has a accumulative negative effect upon fighters overall conditioning. This is a new phenomenon in boxing, within the lower weight classes 'During the past boxing era's, when the same day weigh in rule was applied? Weight training tactics was not used to the extreme extent that they are in today's modern era by certain fighters'. The reality is? Very few fighters from my observation fighting in today's modern era, would actually be able to travel back in time and 'Fight at their competitive weight, because many in some form are using weight draining tactics. Devin Haney along with fighters such as Canelo Alvarez at 147 to 154 pounds and David Benavidez are some of the most prominent fighters to use these tactics at World and Elite level boxing'. Note: I would not say that Devin Haney is weight cheating, he is just being opportunistic and using weight draining tactics. The toxic culture of weight draining is extremely negative, and as I have stated before? The practices have a accumulative negative effect upon a fighter over a long period of time. This is why the Heavyweight Division in terms of competition, is the best division 'Regardless of the talent in the division. People know what they are watching, because? There are no weight limits, no catch weights or rehydration clauses just two fighters preparing optimally at their own digression. Most other sports in the world are a open class competition, and in nature itself 'The competition is open class'. In track and field athletics, the athletes are not marginalized into weight classes 'All varying types of physiques compete against one another'. The Heavyweight Boxing Division, as a open class division 'Is the Ultimate from of raw competition in combat sports'. In the lower weight classes, recent fighters such as Floyd Mayweather Junior, Carl Froch, Bernard Hopkins have been some of the few modern day fighters who have not used weight draining tactics during their careers to the extreme. And if you check their careers, at no point have they ever used? Making the weight as a excuse for a under par performance. They also had solid longevity in their careers and no dramatic performance decrease, to the same level as their nearest competitors who incorporated weight draining tactics to a more extreme in their careers. To conclude: Devin Haney is not weight cheating, he unfortunately is just a bi-product of this modern day boxing era 'Haney has been one of those fighters who believes, that weight draining is a mandate in order to be a top level fighter. At some point in his formative years during his training in boxing, he has internalized those practices and accepted them as apart of boxing culture'. At some point the accumulative negative effects will become apparent to him, if he is to continue to use these toxic weight draining tactics 'And this will be the point where he demands that he must move up in weight. This is usually the trajectory with fighters who use those toxic weight draining tactics. It seems to be a tactical move, which they are aware will at some point not gain any advantage and only be at a disadvantage, but until they reach this point? They will continue to be apart of this toxic weight draining culture in boxing' etc.

Take it from Regis Prograis, who will likely stay at 140 for the rest of his career. He's got a small body frame unlike our friend Haney who is most likely walking at 172 right now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ncUX8S5u5o

It's frauding on the same level as roiding imo. Massive potential damage to the weight-fraud as well.

I still find it very hard to believe rehydrating in one evening to a gain of 25 pounds without any kind of help Miracle ?? I think not

Except this is coming up because Devin broke the California Commission rules. ​ Yeah, Cali comission only allows for 15% rehydration (which is still fking massive) and Devin came in at like 19% So Regis might get his belt back, and the fight changed to NC. The regulations say 15% and he exceeded it, so he broke the rule. ​

Unless the rules state a % that he did not care to abide to. That doesn’t make Haney a weight cheat or whatever ridiculous thing certain posters label it. You make weight, you make weight. Period.

If you make weight at the weigh in, you are fine. If you come over, you are not. If someone has the physical ability to make 135 and then rehydrates up 14+ lbs, don’t cry about it. That is god given ability, unless you use PED’s like Ryan. Unless the rules state a % that he did not care to abide to.

i dont think its unfair to have guys fighting guys who are are around their weight, some guys end up being 2 weight classes and more bigger in the ring, why not just allow LW's to fight WW's etc then u get A siders who get around this with clauses making it an unfair matchup in the end, its a terrible system

If you make weight at the weigh in, you are fine. If you come over, you are not. If someone has the physical ability to make 135 and then rehydrates up 14+ lbs, don’t cry about it. That is god given ability, unless you use PED’s like Ryan.

Yeah, Cali comission only allows for 15% rehydration (which is still fking massive) and Devin came in at like 19% So Regis might get his belt back, and the fight changed to NC. Regis doesn't have the "marketing power" to do so.

The size difference in the Prograis/Haney fight was apparent. Regis fans or anti-Haneys banked on so-called Regis' "power" to beat Haney, but this time his opponent was bigger. He was being punched like rag-doll in that fight. Not so apparent, but if you think about where Haney came from, which is 135, then Prograis was supposed to be the bigger guy in the fight. That's how it becomes apparent, if that makes sense.

Because they're weight classes, not height classes or arm classes. It's sanctioned cheating. Period. The point of the weight classes was so you would fight someone who weighed what you did. That's why weigh ins used to be same day. How do you think this stuff with moving the weigh in time happened? Haney is notorious for having extremely early weigh ins built in to give himself more rehydration time. If it were fair, nobody would complain about rehydration clauses, and fighters would still weigh roughly the same. Go back and look at Haney's fight day weights and you'll see a consistent pattern of him significantly outweighing his opponents. When he weighed in 25 pounds more than his opponents at 135, that's the same 18% weight increase that Usyk faced vs Fury that everyone is so impressed with. If you don't think that's significant, we have nothing more to discuss. If there is no limit on rehydration its legal to come in whatever weight you like, as I said if its inside the rules its ok, outside the rules that's another matter, look at little guys in a division fighting big guys in the same division, there is large weight discrepancy on fightnight, there is no way around it other than weigh them right before the fight and they must be within the limits of the weightclass, but with an official weighin 30hrs before the fight and no rehydration limit is what it is. Same day weighins did not mean they weighed the same fight night, these weighins were in the morning with 12 hrs or more to fight time, the reason they changed it is because fighters were fighting dehydrated adding to the risk of brain damage so they made it 30hrs to fully hydrate, fighters still took advantage of drying out and rehydrating with same day weighins.

Why don't we start calling guys. long arm bullies, big punch bullys, how about high altitude trained bullies, weight bully in boxing is a fans backhander for being disciplined and highly professional, always comes across to me as a losers excuse. Because they're weight classes, not height classes or arm classes. It's sanctioned cheating. Period. The point of the weight classes was so you would fight someone who weighed what you did. That's why weigh ins used to be same day. How do you think this stuff with moving the weigh in time happened? Haney is notorious for having extremely early weigh ins built in to give himself more rehydration time. If it were fair, nobody would complain about rehydration clauses, and fighters would still weigh roughly the same. Go back and look at Haney's fight day weights and you'll see a consistent pattern of him significantly outweighing his opponents. When he weighed in 25 pounds more than his opponents at 135, that's the same 18% weight increase that Usyk faced vs Fury that everyone is so impressed with. If you don't think that's significant, we have nothing more to discuss.

Ah ok I shoulda watched the clip first slaps myself in the back of the head, onus is on the commission now if they have a rule they got to have a penalty for breaking it. Yeah, Cali comission only allows for 15% rehydration (which is still fking massive) and Devin came in at like 19% So Regis might get his belt back, and the fight changed to NC.