(Theory) Why devin Haney can’t punch or take a solid punch

130 Gotti use to rehydrate to 155 on fight day. Its nothing new. Devin rehydrates to 165-170… 10-15lbs is a much. better rehydration weight

This is ruining boxing man. These new age boxers suck. 130 Gotti use to rehydrate to 155 on fight day. Its nothing new.

Those are the risks you take when you dehydrate too much. Thats his problem. Both Garcia and Haney are too OLD to be dehydrating so much. Only young kids can get away with that, men under22- 24 or so abouts. This is ruining boxing man. These new age boxers suck.

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He dehydrates himself almost 30 lbs and then rehydrates himself 30lbs immediately after. 24 hours objectively is not enough to get back to your prime state. That’s why he looks sluggish, slow, and his legs give out. Look at the way he reacts when he gets cracked. His legs immediately abandon him because they aren’t fully renergized from the tortorous fight camp weight cut. In my opinion, boxing needs to go back to same day weigh ins. Look at the energy and volume of older fights like Duran Leonard, Chavez vs Randall, Tito vs Vargas, Hagler Hearms, etc. Look at how inyetse these fights were. IMO, Devin should go to 147 or 154. That weight suits him better, objectively. He managed to crack prograis as he hadn’t cut 140 before but he’s outgrown 140 already. Those are the risks you take when you dehydrate too much. Thats his problem. Both Garcia and Haney are too OLD to be dehydrating so much. Only young kids can get away with that, men under22- 24 or so abouts.

He dehydrates himself almost 30 lbs and then rehydrates himself 30lbs immediately after. So Haney's walking weight in between fights is 170lbs. Even if he moves up to 154 he still have to lose 16lbs. I see.

Kind of a silly premise - Ryan is universally accepted as a huge puncher, and he came in both on PEDs and massively over the weight limit. Haney took clean shots from Linares and Lomachenko, two of the best around, and was stunned a little bit. He's never been KO'd. Saying he has a bad chin is.... absurd. He just fights top-shelf opposition. haney has an iron chin. khan too

I always cringe hearing Bill telling Devin to "throw that brick". Embarrassing...

I think part of the equation is that Haney's best wins are against older fighters like Loma, Linares, Kambo, Prograis, Gamboa, and Diaz, plenty of experience on those guys but they are old and weathered. Ryan is the first top guy Haney has fought that is young and in his prime.

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He dehydrates himself almost 30 lbs and then rehydrates himself 30lbs immediately after. 24 hours objectively is not enough to get back to your prime state. That’s why he looks sluggish, slow, and his legs give out. Look at the way he reacts when he gets cracked. His legs immediately abandon him because they aren’t fully renergized from the tortorous fight camp weight cut. In my opinion, boxing needs to go back to same day weigh ins. Look at the energy and volume of older fights like Duran Leonard, Chavez vs Randall, Tito vs Vargas, Hagler Hearms, etc. Look at how inyetse these fights were. IMO, Devin should go to 147 or 154. That weight suits him better, objectively. He managed to crack prograis as he hadn’t cut 140 before but he’s outgrown 140 already. I’ve heard many things thrown at Devin Haney from Pillow fists to weight bully but sluggish and slow I do not associate with him. Devin fought a bad fight and rightfully lost. He will be smoked at 147 and especially 154lbs

But a small/skinny Linares hurt him as well. Not quite like Ryan Garcia but that’s what it will look like when Haney fights a power puncher of his own size. Haney was bigger than Linares. He was also bigger than Prograis, who never even touched Haney anyway. a grown man landing clean on you with the right technique can daze anyone imo,

Kind of a silly premise - Ryan is universally accepted as a huge puncher, and he came in both on PEDs and massively over the weight limit. Haney took clean shots from Linares and Lomachenko, two of the best around, and was stunned a little bit. He's never been KO'd. Saying he has a bad chin is.... absurd. He just fights top-shelf opposition.

haney and many fighters are really fighting at lower weights for advantages, its most def working against him, they are killing their bodies, but the peds and weight gave ryan an edge plus hes a big puncher anyway

Another chunk of it is technical. Haney starts his punches differently from the usual. Rather than bringing his power up from the ground, then turning the hips and transferring weight, he pushes the shoulder first then rotates after. That cuts down on the telegraph because it gets the fist moving faster in a visual axis that's hard to see (think about how much harder it is to see a fist coming straight at you vs at an angle), but it also significantly reduces weight transfer. He also fights defensively, so he never actually commits his weight fully to a punch. That makes him less likely to get hit, but also means many of his punches are basically arm punches, with very little mass behind them. Watch him in slow-mo sometime, and look at how much of his mass travels towards the opponent. And he can't really change that because it's essential to his style.

As more time goes the ability to go up and down so much not only it gets harder but it starts affecting the fighter. That is an enormous amount of stress on the body on top of training so hard.

Gatti gained 17 pounds on day of the fight with Joey Gamache and brutally KO’d him. That fit gained a lot of attention and there was talk of changing rules and weigh-in protocols over 17 pounds. Pazienza insists he was putting on 20-30 pounds on the day of some of his fights. Spence and Crawford each walk around at 180+. I would bet Floyd was at least 165 or better for his fights with Marquez, Manny, and several others where he refused to get on the scale day of the fight. lol floyd was weighed multiple times at 150 on fight night. he was not all of a sudden 15 pounds heavier than that because it fits your narrative. the real world doesnt work that way

Haney just can't punch. But as far as taking a punch, not everyone will hit him like Ryan. Ryan's left hook is vicious. It can stumble anyone up to 154. But a small/skinny Linares hurt him as well. Not quite like Ryan Garcia but that’s what it will look like when Haney fights a power puncher of his own size. Haney was bigger than Linares. He was also bigger than Prograis, who never even touched Haney anyway.

Let’s send him up to 154lbs where he will be able to take punches better then. No but seriously, some fighters just can’t take a punch. Khan couldn’t take a punch at 135, 140, 147, or 155.

I don't know man. I can't judge until I see him with his next fights against competitive opponents. I have to see him with Jamaine Ortiz, Richard Commey, Jose Ramirez, Catterall, Sandor Marin, etc. Even Masayoshi Nakatani will do for me. You know, fighters that Loma, Lopez and others fought just for comparison purposes, not retired Gamboa or Linares. Let's see how he will do.