Now that he is likely retired , allow me to sum up his career. He was knocked down early in his career by a tier 3 eastern euro guy. He really lost to fat John McDermott, but was gifted win. He fought Dereck Chisora THREE times. He struggled with a 37 year old Steve Cunningham, who floored him, and was badly cut by Otto Wallin. Klitschko was 40 years old with nearly 70 fights of mileage on him. And that fight was a dull jab fest between two guys afraid to pull the trigger. Fury deserved credit for beating Wilder when he was still undefeated. But at 35 years old I’m not even sure if Wilder was prime. And as we saw Wilder was over rated. The Francis N’gaou fight was a disgrace. Many say he lost or drew to an 0-0 fighter. And in all that time Fury was around he never once faced a man his own size let alone bigger in his prime. NEVER. He’s probably one of the weakest lineal champs in the sports history.
And don't forget he tested positive for PED's. How many fight was he on something and not caught? And Fury was docked points in 5 separate fights. The man is DIRTY.
He fought just one guy who was very good in prime and lost that one. Did I miss anything? That is his legacy. He duped boxing fans, milked his belt, was floored 8 times and beat no one ring magazine raked under 34, when he was in his prime. Now that Fury is 35, he can add more to his loses. Vs prime men like AJ or Hrgovic his size.
Fury is still levels above AJ you have been dribbling over fury for years when in reality he has built his resume on hasbeens or low ranked fighters…..yiu have just seen wallin and Ngannou get demolished by joshua and yet that gave fury nightmares……that don’t sound like levels above Joshua to me and we have just usyk dominate fury and knock him from ring post to ring post and was saved by the ref.
fury has now been exposed as a fraud and now he has nowhere to run …..he has to either fight usyk or joshua because he cannot now defend against the chisoras of this world …..he will never be world champion and Luke knows it
I don't see him living long. Once he retires, he is going to go back to his old ways and grow extremely fat as f, consume lots of alcohol and take drugs. Boxing has been keeping him disciplined to some extent, but it is all going to go away as soon as he calls it quits. I actually fear for him once he quits, no joke...
He is bi-polar. I agree once he quits boxing he will ballon into a 300+ pound man with very unhealthy habits. Those types tend to die young.
I don't see him living long. Once he retires, he is going to go back to his old ways and grow extremely fat as f, consume lots of alcohol and take drugs. Boxing has been keeping him disciplined to some extent, but it is all going to go away as soon as he calls it quits. I actually fear for him once he quits, no joke...
who was ripped apart? who was being selective? i mentioned all their notable wins. its simply comparing whose resume is better. i made the case that joshuas resume is better so if you think furys is better make the case why? i dont see how you can come up with a way to do it that is reasonable hence saying hes levels above joshua doesnt seem to make much sense. obviously some wins are more heavily weighted than others but im not seeing anything that is far and away better than any joshua win. the wilder win didnt hold up too well since wilders resume is very slim and he was dominated by parker who joshua beat. whyte? joshua beat him. wallin? joshua beat him. i dont think a one year younger klitschko is leaps and bounds above the one that fought joshua.
Oh Please. Wlad was not up for Fury and sleepwalked though the match. He definitely had something to prove vs. Joshua. They both fourth an OLD Wlad, but the Wlad that AJ beat was motivated and the best an ancient Wlad could be.
Fury's resume is chiefly Wilder who is over rated and fought a bunch of old guys and really has a terrible resume of wins.
Parker or Ruiz would the signature win for Wilder. AJ beat them both.
You can do what you did there with anyone. Ali, Tyson, Sugar Ray Robinson, Canelo, Pac, Chavez Sr, DeLa Hoya, etc, Easy to be selective and rip anyone apart. Nash out - the voice of sanity. Not out of his mind, in fact, Nash has never been more in his mind.
who was ripped apart? who was being selective? i mentioned all their notable wins. its simply comparing whose resume is better. i made the case that joshuas resume is better so if you think furys is better make the case why? i dont see how you can come up with a way to do it that is reasonable hence saying hes levels above joshua doesnt seem to make much sense. obviously some wins are more heavily weighted than others but im not seeing anything that is far and away better than any joshua win. the wilder win didnt hold up too well since wilders resume is very slim and he was dominated by parker who joshua beat. whyte? joshua beat him. wallin? joshua beat him. i dont think a one year younger klitschko is leaps and bounds above the one that fought joshua.
You can do what you did there with anyone. Ali, Tyson, Sugar Ray Robinson, Canelo, Pac, Chavez Sr, DeLa Hoya, etc, Easy to be selective and rip anyone apart. Nash out - the voice of sanity. Not out of his mind, in fact, Nash has never been more in his mind.
Fury is still levels above AJ
based on what though? if they both retired today joshua has a better resume. they both have klitschko, whyte, and wallin. klitschko was slightly better for fury but not by much as joshua fought him in his next fight. fury has wilder but joshua has parker who is much better than wilder. joshua also has ruiz who is better than wilder in my mind, and povetkin who might be as well. then he has guys like pulev and charles martin to furys chisora. joshua has beaten 8 top 10 guys to furys 4. dont see how he is levels above. in fantasy power sure you can say hes better or would beat joshua which could be true but not in real world accomplishments
Just as fans aren't objective, so are the haters. Both cases would have been fine if they weren't the way they are. This thread is the bottom the OP can reach.
Well the truth is the truth no matter who it spins it. I do not think Fury is bad. Far from it. I think he was say the 3rd or 4th best heavyweight in down era of heavyweight boxing. And dirty. Kudos to punch drunk fans for paying for his for his PPV's. Boxing needed it.
Did Tyson Fury f*** Dr Z's wife or something?
Fury is the 2nd best HW of this era and has earned generational wealth, not bad for a bum who can't box. no he ain’t and he hasn’t proved it….let him fight joshua before you once again talk false facts
Hot Damn! You sound like a computer nerd. Obviously you don’t know shit about boxing.
“Run through Ali’s resume like a hot knife through butter“? What are you stupid? Are you serious?
Ali fought in the most competitive heavyweight division of all-time. Which is also considered the Golden era in the Heavyweight division; The 1960s and 1970s.
And he lost to Norton many times. And tiny light heavyweight joe frazier plus Leon Spinks.
Firy would have KOd everyone on Alis resume with ease, as well as Ali himself. They're Unskilled small men. George Foreman would have been a good fight for Fury but I don't think he wiuld have had the skill to land on Fury.
Foreman was just a 70s Wilder that couldnt even punch straight
I'm not going to sit here and say Tyson Fury sucks, he's a great fighter, sure, but this weekend really should put to bed this narrative that the media and his fanboys push that he's better than Ali, nobody in the history of boxing can beat him because of his size, this that and the third.
I would not bet on Tyson Fury to beat Ali, Foreman, Frazier. Moving closer to the modern era I don't even think he would beat Lennox or Hollyfield. And moving closer I don't think he'd beat Vitali. Vitali was a master boxer with an iron chin, and wouldn't have been anywhere close to as tentative as his brother to pull the trigger. I think even Tyson has admitted this before.
Just as fans aren't objective, so are the haters. Both cases would have been fine if they weren't the way they are. This thread is the bottom the OP can reach.
History will be very kind to him.
From the guy that was punching himself in the face with uppercut to the world champ. He has 1 loss in competitive fight.
Fury and Wilder are the most entertaining hw guys in this era. Usyk is the most skilled one.
What are you talking about? Both Fury and Usyk have agreed to a rematch in October according to Warren
I lose track and relay do not pay attention to what Fury says. He is off and on, jerking the fans around. It Fury says it, that means just a little bit more the Warren.
He thought size meant everything but he didn't realise its the size of your heart that matters most.
I doubt his heart is in the game anymore. It wasn't after beating Klitschko. I'd be surprised if it is now he's lost his O.
He'd still make a great WWE showman with his dad as hypeman.
He still has the love of the game in him. It showed Saturday. He was having fun out there with Usyk.
However, physically though; His body has been through a grind. In his 15 and 1/2 year boxing career; He has been dropped to the canvas for a total of eight times.
Yet he has always managed to get up from them and finish each and every fight he was ever knock down in on his feet up until now.
The years that he was broken and partying are now appearing to have taken its toll. It has aged him.
I remember that. Lot of people here might not have been into Boxing back then but during his prospect days, he was seen as a side show. Fury wasn’t regarded as a serious fighter at all and nobody expected him to become what he is today. It was only after he beat Chisora when fans started to take notice. I dont remember exactly why but I decided to bet on Fury for the first time and he did not disappoint!
Tyson Fury is truly an overachiever.. when I think back to 2009-2010, I can only remember people making of him on the forums with various gifs of dude uppercutting himself etc.
Yes, I do remember that. He was often compared to another Brit or compatriot of his at the time David Price.