Undisputed, but for how long????

OK. So you came to the fight game before the 1980s. Me too! So why be a sanctioning body B? OUR generation remembers when there was only one champion. Best not to care what the IBF does. P.S. That's not the same IBF from the 1980s, is it? I thought they went to prison. In OUR generation, the best fought the best a lot more than they do these days, meaning the belt-holders earned and defended them. Now, the best make excuses for not fighting the best, and cherry pick their way to stardom. So, the belts are really all that's left to validate on SOME level, if these pussies would even dare defend them!

My generation? :lol1: Just how old are ya, pal? I was a teen when Ali fought some of his biggest fights. I remember missing some, because they were on CCTV. OK. So you came to the fight game before the 1980s. Me too! So why be a sanctioning body B? OUR generation remembers when there was only one champion. Best not to care what the IBF does. P.S. That's not the same IBF from the 1980s, is it? I thought they went to prison.

I say nothing, nothing I say. Fans decide and always have, until your authority ass-kissing generation came along. But that's just my humble opinion. My generation? :lol1: Just how old are ya, pal? I was a teen when Ali fought some of his biggest fights. I remember missing some, because they were on CCTV.

It doesn't matter for how long. He just reached the most desired place in boxing. He should retire and leave it at that

Usually, the number one guy has beaten all challengers and has won all of the belts. The sport is considered to be prize fighting, after all. Just because the corrupt IBF may believe there's more to be gained by separating their belt from the rest, doesn't mean that the belts mean nothing. I say nothing, nothing I say. Fans decide and always have, until your authority ass-kissing generation came along. But that's just my humble opinion.

Tell you what, if Dubois beats Hrgovic, that will really cement Usyk on top. Dubois lost every second of the fight that he wasn't punching Usyk in the cup. Then it's pretty much just Parker and maybe Kabayel left as possible threats. I'd like to see Fury retire for good and stop hanging up the division. If that means they fight again in October, fine. I think Usyk will win even more emphatically now that he's got the measure of the man, and Fury knows Usyk can hurt him. AJ can take on Parker in a rematch, Kabayel vs the winner of Hrgovic v Dubois.

Again, who gives a f.uck about the belts? This between fury and Usyk is for legacy and for being N.1. of this era. This whole story about "undisputed" and "belts" is for casuals. So what if Dubois -Hrgovic winner gets vacant IBF belt? That doesn`t make him being a legit champion. Usually, the number one guy has beaten all challengers and has won all of the belts. The sport is considered to be prize fighting, after all. Just because the corrupt IBF may believe there's more to be gained by separating their belt from the rest, doesn't mean that the belts mean nothing.

Again, who gives a f.uck about the belts? This between fury and Usyk is for legacy and for being N.1. of this era. This whole story about "undisputed" and "belts" is for casuals. So what if Dubois -Hrgovic winner gets vacant IBF belt? That doesn`t make him being a legit champion.

It's a shame that Usyk won the first undisputed HW championship in 25 years and may not even get to defend it once. He won't. They're coming for blood ($$$). It was a great accomplishment to be pulled off, but these days, it's very hard to keep all the belt orgs happy and keep your belts to defend them with what they want.

I heard in like 2 weeks he might be stripped of one of the belts, lol. It's a shame that Usyk won the first undisputed HW championship in 25 years and may not even get to defend it once.

well dubois knocked out Usyk and Usyk avoided the rematch. Dubois should have had 3 belts. 1. The shot was low 2. The ref immediately called it low and Usyk picked up on it, so he didn't bother trying to get up. With a count he probably gets up anyway. 3. Usyk won every second of the fight otherwise and stopped Dubois on a jab Enough with this nonsense. It was a low blow, get over it.

Didn't they already say that the IBF will strip their belt and give it to the winner of that upcoming garbage Hrgovic v Dubois fight? well dubois knocked out Usyk and Usyk avoided the rematch. Dubois should have had 3 belts.

Time waits for No man. In my eyes, Usyk did the deed, and pushes higher up the list. It will be interesting to see if he can repeat in October, if all parties are willing. As of mid-May 2024 50 years of Heavyweights. 1974 - 2024 (Note: Those highlighted are Active Today) 1. Muhammad Ali 2. Lennox Lewis 3. Larry Holmes 4. Mike Tyson 5. George Foreman 6. Oleksandr Usyk 7. Wladimir Klitschko 8. Tyson Fury 9. Ken Norton 10. Joe Frazier 11. Evander Holyfield 12. Anthony Joshua 13. Deontay Wilder 14. Ron Lyle 15. Vitali Klitschko 16. Riddick Bowe 17. Gerry Cooney 18. Earnie Shavers 19. Jimmy Young 20. Joseph Parker 21. Ike Ibeabuchi 21. Tim Witherspoon 23. Gerrie Coetzee 24. Andrew Golota 25. Michael Dokes 26. David Tua 27. Alexander Povetkin 28. Mike Weaver 29. Frank Bruno 30. Tommy Morrison 9 of 30 are dead 5 of the 30 are active 16 of the 30 are retired Sounds like not for very long as I just read on another site that the IBF is starting the process of stripping Usyk of his title What a fughin disgraceful act

I heard in like 2 weeks he might be stripped of one of the belts, lol.

How you holding up OP? I know you’re lowkey in pain going by all your posts in the history forum about Fury being up there with the greats. Time waits for No man. In my eyes, Usyk did the deed, and pushes higher up the list. It will be interesting to see if he can repeat in October, if all parties are willing. As of mid-May 2024 50 years of Heavyweights. 1974 - 2024 (Note: Those highlighted are Active Today) 1. Muhammad Ali 2. Lennox Lewis 3. Larry Holmes 4. Mike Tyson 5. George Foreman 6. Oleksandr Usyk 7. Wladimir Klitschko 8. Tyson Fury 9. Ken Norton 10. Joe Frazier 11. Evander Holyfield 12. Anthony Joshua 13. Deontay Wilder 14. Ron Lyle 15. Vitali Klitschko 16. Riddick Bowe 17. Gerry Cooney 18. Earnie Shavers 19. Jimmy Young 20. Joseph Parker 21. Ike Ibeabuchi 21. Tim Witherspoon 23. Gerrie Coetzee 24. Andrew Golota 25. Michael Dokes 26. David Tua 27. Alexander Povetkin 28. Mike Weaver 29. Frank Bruno 30. Tommy Morrison 9 of 30 are dead 5 of the 30 are active 16 of the 30 are retired

How you holding up OP? I know you’re lowkey in pain going by all your posts in the history forum about Fury being up there with the greats.

Imagine the value of a title that some complain was last held 25 years ago but is stripped from the holder within two weeks - what a parody! A title that no one won for 25 years but one fighter did it in six bouts. No, I don't blame Usyk, this is all about how meaningless the titles are. The more they are - the more meaningless they become. What matters, I will say it again, will always be the quality of your opponents and the number of your fights. With this, the people's recognition will come too and this is the third thing that matters, probably the most.

SIDE NOTE I can't post the word U kraine. Why is that? Here it is: "Ukraine" Why? Can I post R ussia? Here it is: "Russia" Guess not!

Beats me how Dubious ever got a title shot vs Usyk and now might have another without ever beating anyone of note and having his ass handed back to him by Joyce and Usyk. Fisheyes must stuff them envelopes full and swallow rather than spit. Dubious wasn't a terrible choice. It was suspose to be Uysk-Fury but that wasn't happening. Besides, there is a tradition that a new champion gets an easy one. Sometimes disguised as a mandatory. The fight was staged in Poland, as close to U kraine without getting shot at, and so it was a "show case" fight. Dubious had many KOs so it was likely he would come to fight, and he did. Think of it as a 'home coming" fight for a new champion. Fury wouldn't commit so in the meanwhile we got a well staged "show casing" of Usyk's skills. It also had an extensive undercard to give the fans a show. 12 total fights. You got to keep the game alive when a HW Champion sits on the title as Fury did. It looks to me in retrospect, to have been a good night for boxing.

Beats me how Dubious ever got a title shot vs Usyk and now might have another without ever beating anyone of note and having his ass handed back to him by Joyce and Usyk. Fisheyes must stuff them envelopes full and swallow rather than spit.