Usyk is a pretty advance operator one could ever be but the way Fury outboxed him in the middle rounds was really impressive. Made him missed, made him lunging, tagged him to the head and body and got out-maneuvered. (Albeit ofcourse Fury wasn’t able to sustain it later)
i thought Usyk won not because he was the better tactician, but because he had the way better engine, the stronger willpower/hunger/desire and was the more disciplined and focused between the two.
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Usyk kept adjusting and never got demoralized.. Usyk is really a special special talent.
At one point in the fight I thought " wow Usyk has no shot here " usually when say that during a fight it doesn't get any better. At one point I thought Fury was too big and too good. But Usyk just kept trying to figure him out.
nobody else in 20 years has landed that many combos on Usyk like that. It was amazing stuff to see but he couldnt sustain it.
if anything he shoudl have continued the body attack, it was so successful and he just stopped. his stupid corner should have been yelling at him for that but i dont recall them doing so
Fury gave the fight away. Too much showboating instead of going for the kill. bollocks…….fury had one moment when he caught usyk with that uppercut , usyk had plenty of moments when he had fury hurt and the last quarter of the fight usyk beat fury up and he should have been stopped had the ref not got in the way.
when you get to world level it’s ebb and flow so the success fury had is just boxing and if it came earlier then usyks charge would have came earlier…..fury was boxing at hyper speed to even keep up with usyk in the first 3 rounds which probably took a lot out him trying to keep pace with usyk.
Basically what we saw was a fighter who was 5 inches shorter and 3 stone lighter take the center of the ring and dictate the exchanges and be the aggressor against a giant night in that ring…….and I doubt very much fury will take the rematch as he will get KO’ed next time.
fury did show guts in there but usyk is a level above
Fury had usyk in distress, and grimacing and complaining. Fury should have went in for more, then bear hug and lean on usyk. To try force stoppage even, but let usyk recover instead?
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Even though I had Fury by a point, I think he had Usyk, briefly, in all kinds of trouble, yet backed off to showboat and fuck about. He took a gamble that Usyk couldn't hurt him, and it all started when his nose got clipped, rather than the hook. Nash out
Fury had usyk in distress, and grimacing and complaining. Fury should have went in for more, then bear hug and lean on usyk. To try force stoppage even, but let usyk recover instead?
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fury is an exceptional fighter, highly skilled and one of the kind (top 5 ATG HW h2h for sure). I think he was very well prepared and did the best he could. the fact he was taking the mid rounds was what would be expected if usyk and him were on the same level.
but usyk is level above. People should realise how much physical adventage fury has. It is like Crawford going against Bivol. Even if Bivol was on Bud’s level
skillwise I would expect Bivol to beat him relatevly easy. the fact usyk won and hurt fury, just shows how remarkable good usyk is, not that fury is not exceptional.
kudos to both fighters. Fury still beats AJ and everybody else, pretty easy.
It was an ATG performance. Furys physical advantage is unparalleled, combined with his legitimate top skills, he is absolutely a top talent.
Usyk however cemented an ATG career.
Rematch I lean Fury using all of his size even if I think Usyk is better.
He did. Fury is a great fighter.
But Usyk made the adjustments, and Fury didn’t adjust to that. Thats what won Usyk the fight.
Usyk is a master at boxing, he has the ability to make fighters tired just be sheer foot positioning and mental pressure. His IQ is extremely high, every single fight he always adjusts and finishes strong.
When Fury made the adjustments and began to dominate, I thought that was it but Usyk showed how great he is.
They are two great fighters. I’m very excited for the rematch but it’s hard to see a way Usyk loses but I’m not counting Fury all the way out.
Rewatching now (again and again) and I think Fury's early performance is probably being overstated. He was good, but only in one round did he really overwhelm Usyk.
Usyk gets better with every watch. Their relative sizes and the reaction of the crowd played into Fury's shots seeming significant and Usyk's not so much. I think it was the opposite of that apart from the sixth round. Usyk's shots were hurtful - Fury was hitting gloves and air a lot.
This fight gets wider to Usyk every time I watch.
Similar for me. In lot of those rounds where Fury did something, Usyk still had cleaner more effective work.
Rewatching now (again and again) and I think Fury's early performance is probably being overstated. He was good, but only in one round did he really overwhelm Usyk.
Usyk gets better with every watch. Their relative sizes and the reaction of the crowd played into Fury's shots seeming significant and Usyk's not so much. I think it was the opposite of that apart from the sixth round. Usyk's shots were hurtful - Fury was hitting gloves and air a lot.
This fight gets wider to Usyk every time I watch.
I agree. In real time I thought Usyk was in very serious trouble. On re-watch not so much. Fury caught Usyk with some sneaky shots and buzzed him once for sure, but he was never in complete control.
Fury won 4-7 convincingly but hindsight reveals all.
Usyk made him work his bollocks off and started measuring him. Tyson Fury would have to dance around the ring whilst Usyk just look a few steps to pressure him.
In the end, it wasn't sustainable and Fury got rocked hard.
This is true. Usyk’s consistency, insane motor and determination plus his overall skillset combined are too difficult to overcome in a 12 round fight as you will usually tire out first before he ever does.
With that said though, i haven’t seen any of the guys you’ve mention win 3-4 consecutive rounds against Usyk — esp not in the fashion Fury did. Those rounds were the best anyone could possibly look against Usyk if that’s any consolation to Fury lol.
Rewatching now (again and again) and I think Fury's early performance is probably being overstated. He was good, but only in one round did he really overwhelm Usyk.
Usyk gets better with every watch. Their relative sizes and the reaction of the crowd played into Fury's shots seeming significant and Usyk's not so much. I think it was the opposite of that apart from the sixth round. Usyk's shots were hurtful - Fury was hitting gloves and air a lot.
This fight gets wider to Usyk every time I watch.
A win doesn't need to be consistently dominant across 12 rounds.
Fights ebb and flow and it's a hallmark of Usyk's fights. Guys get the upper hand, but Usyk figures things out and finds a way. It's what he's always done.
Bellew, Chisora, Briedis, Joshua, Fury - they all had their moments. Usyk ultimately adjusted and won.
I completely agree Fury looked great through 6. But he's not the first. Lesser fighters than him have looked good against Usyk right up until they didn't anymore. Even when Fury looked great it was still Usyk applying pressure - eventually it tells.
This is true. Usyk’s consistency, insane motor and determination plus his overall skillset combined are too difficult to overcome in a 12 round fight as you will usually tire out first before he ever does.
With that said though, i haven’t seen any of the guys you’ve mention win 3-4 consecutive rounds against Usyk — esp not in the fashion Fury did. Those rounds were the best anyone could possibly look against Usyk if that’s any consolation to Fury lol.
I thought Fury let it slip and let Usyk off the hook when he had him hurt... Was def slow to start in the first few rounds but once he had his flow and timing he looked a level above, then let Usyk back into the fight by neglecting the body and letting him rest. Great great performance by Usyk, def deserved. Hopefully Tyson can come back motivated in the rematch and let the hands go from the first bell. His chin looks a little shot though.
He's a 15 round fighter 100%
Too many heavyweights are sucking wind after four rounds.
It's one of the reasons Usyk does so well.
Modern heavyweights stamina is garbage, in the 90s we had fatty David Tua throwing 600 punches in a fight and not getting too tired.
Usyk's biggest attribute is his stamina, which is insane.
Young boxers should study it because it's not so much Usyk goes to another level as nobody can keep pace with him down the stretch.
When you fight Usyk you almost have to start the fight 4 rounds down in your own mind, because he's definatley winning the last 4.
Win the first 4 against him and then suddenly it's an even contest.
He's a 15 round fighter 100%
Too many heavyweights are sucking wind after four rounds.
I felt Fury boxed a poor tactical fight and didn't press when he needed to, I'm not sure, maybe he didn't have the gas tank, maybe he got complacent and started thinking "this is easy" in those mid rounds. Maybe it was Usyk bopping him in the honker.
Who knows all I know is Usyk has made a career out of these late fight turnarounds, Fury needed to have a plan in place to prevent him from bossing the last 4 and he did not have one so he lost.
After round nine, I thought Usyk had slowed down considerably. It appeared that he may have punched himself out after attempting to knock Fury out. I personally had Tyson Fury sweeping the championship rounds of 11 and 12 but it is what it is.