1 - Fury always comes back stronger - See Wilder and McDermott
2 - He will be in better condition - Uysk looked old and tired
3 - He won't give away early rounds
4 - He knows what works against Uayk and wont lose focus next time
5 - Usyk is regressing every fight and won't get any better
If the 4th fight between Anthony Joshua and Oleksandr Uysk is ever called for? I have always stated that I would back Joshua to win.
And in the immediate aftermath of Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Uysk 'I stated that Tyson Fury has a serious chance of winning the rematch'.
I just sense that Oleksandr Usyk is operating a near maximum levels of effort 'And execution, in order to beat both Joshua and Fury'.
Where as fighters like Joshua and Fury, at Heavyweight they have a vast operational window. I.E Both Joshua and Fury have the ability to morph and alter their physiques dramatically 'Anthony Joshua in his last 3 fights, has been weighing in at 250 pounds. To be specific Joshua weighed in at 250 pounds vs Franklin, 251 pounds vs Wallin and then 252 pounds vs Ngannou'.
This is not a new fighting physique for Joshua 'Joshua weighed in at 250 pounds vs Kiltschko'.
If Oleksandr Uysk fights this version of Joshua in a potential 4th fight 'It is a new challenge, Joshua has effectively switched up and morphed into another weight class'.
That is what I mean by, certain fighters have a vast operational window 'They have experienced at fighting at altering weights'.
Tyson Fury has this same ability, Fury could so easily jumped back up to 270 + pounds 'And attempt to fight Uysk with a more aggressive attitude'.
Those factors make rematches and potential trilogies with both Joshua and Fury 'Extremely difficult for certain fighters'.
Oleksandr Uysk is great fighter, Uysk is the most accomplished active fighter in the entire sport of boxing 'And I personally believe pound for pound, he has achieved the greatest physical feats in boxing in beating both Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury'.
But? Unlike past Heavyweights who have invaded the Heavyweight Division from the Cruiserweight ranks 'Uysk when you analyse him as a fighter. He does not have a ability that can negate the brute strength, power and mass of these Heavyweights. In the same way that David Haye had extreme levels of punching power and athleticism, or Evander Holyfield had a abnormal levels of durability, endurance and brute strength.
Oleksandr Uysk almost always has to fight these other Heavyweights, and beat them in a very difficult way 'Usyk has won all of his top Heavyweight fights, with his endurance and skills'.
What I trying to say is? Oleksandr Uysk is negating these Heavyweights in a very difficult way 'Every single time he fights. It is a extreme effort in my opinion, and he sustains Heavy damage in these fights'.
In comparaison David Haye could negate Heavyweights in a instant 'David Haye decked Monte Barrett 5 times in 5 rounds, and won by knock-out. John Ruiz was decked in the first 25 seconds of their, and there on after that? Haye continued to beat him up, decking him 3 more times beating him down and forcing a stoppage'.
David Haye weighing in at 210 pounds, fought a Derek Chisora that had never been decked or knocked before in his career 'Haye fought Chisora head on, and canceled out his momentum. Haye knocked out Chisora inside 5 rounds'.
Even when David Haye lost his unification fight vs a Wladimir Kiltschko at his absolute peak 'Haye was not beaten up or damaged, like the way Oleksandr Uysk has been vs Dereck Chisora, Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury'.
And this because David Haye had abilities to negate Heavyweights in a manner Uysk does not really do 'David Haye athletically was a superior Athlete to Uysk. Haye had superior levels of power, and at his peak Haye had superior defensive capabilities'.
David Haye and Evander Holyfield 'They were fighters who had individual attributes, that were at Super Hero level'.
Oleksandr Uysk in terms of athleticism and even skill for skill 'I don't regard him as that type of fighter. Uysk's endurance is his most impressive attribute, it is very impressive 'But Joshua and Fury, were still stayed in the full 12 round fight. They were able to compete with Uysk'.
Note: Stylistically due to the type of fighter Oleksandr Uysk is? Uysk is almost always forced to beat these other Heavyweights in a very difficult way. And I just think that trait as a fighter, makes rematches and potential trilogie fights very difficult against fighters like Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury.
We all ready know this with the evidence from Uysk's two fights vs Joshua 'Anthony Joshua was the fighter who improved his effort the most out of the two fighters'.
If the potential 4th Joshua vs Uysk fight is ever made 'The trajectory of that match up, suggest Joshua is most likely going to push Uysk in a close competitive fight'.
I have a similar opinion on Tyson Fury 'I give Fury a serious chance of wining the rematch vs Uysk' etc.
1 - Fury always comes back stronger - See Wilder and McDermott
2 - He will be in better condition - Uysk looked old and tired
3 - He won't give away early rounds
4 - He knows what works against Uayk and wont lose focus next time
5 - Usyk is regressing every fight and won't get any better
Dumbest chit I ever heard
Point # 2 can be applied to all humans not just Usyk
Point # 3 how the fugh do you know that , he might in you but your not in him
Point # 4 can say the same for Usyk
Point # 5 and Fury isn’t
SmFh
If the 4th fight between Anthony Joshua and Oleksandr Uysk is ever called for? I have always stated that I would back Joshua to win.
And in the immediate aftermath of Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Uysk 'I stated that Tyson Fury has a serious chance of winning the rematch'.
I just sense that Oleksandr Usyk is operating a near maximum levels of effort 'And execution, in order to beat both Joshua and Fury'.
Where as fighters like Joshua and Fury, at Heavyweight they have a vast operational window. I.E Both Joshua and Fury have the ability to morph and alter their physiques dramatically 'Anthony Joshua in his last 3 fights, has been weighing in at 250 pounds. To be specific Joshua weighed in at 250 pounds vs Franklin, 251 pounds vs Wallin and then 252 pounds vs Ngannou'.
This is not a new fighting physique for Joshua 'Joshua weighed in at 250 pounds vs Kiltschko'.
If Oleksandr Uysk fights this version of Joshua in a potential 4th fight 'It is a new challenge, Joshua has effectively switched up and morphed into another weight class'.
That is what I mean by, certain fighters have a vast operational window 'They have experienced at fighting at altering weights'.
Tyson Fury has this same ability, Fury could so easily jumped back up to 270 + pounds 'And attempt to fight Uysk with a more aggressive attitude'.
Those factors make rematches and potential trilogies with both Joshua and Fury 'Extremely difficult for certain fighters'.
Oleksandr Uysk is great fighter, Uysk is the most accomplished active fighter in the entire sport of boxing 'And I personally believe pound for pound, he has achieved the greatest physical feats in boxing in beating both Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury'.
But? Unlike past Heavyweights who have invaded the Heavyweight Division from the Cruiserweight ranks 'Uysk when you analyse him as a fighter. He does not have a ability that can negate the brute strength, power and mass of these Heavyweights. In the same way that David Haye had extreme levels of punching power and athleticism, or Evander Holyfield had a abnormal levels of durability, endurance and brute strength.
Oleksandr Uysk almost always has to fight these other Heavyweights, and beat them in a very difficult way 'Usyk has won all of his top Heavyweight fights, with his endurance and skills'.
What I trying to say is? Oleksandr Uysk is negating these Heavyweights in a very difficult way 'Every single time he fights. It is a extreme effort in my opinion, and he sustains Heavy damage in these fights'.
In comparaison David Haye could negate Heavyweights in a instant 'David Haye decked Monte Barrett 5 times in 5 rounds, and won by knock-out. John Ruiz was decked in the first 25 seconds of their, and there on after that? Haye continued to beat him up, decking him 3 more times beating him down and forcing a stoppage'.
David Haye weighing in at 210 pounds, fought a Derek Chisora that had never been decked or knocked before in his career 'Haye fought Chisora head on, and canceled out his momentum. Haye knocked out Chisora inside 5 rounds'.
Even when David Haye lost his unification fight vs a Wladimir Kiltschko at his absolute peak 'Haye was not beaten up or damaged, like the way Oleksandr Uysk has been vs Dereck Chisora, Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury'.
And this because David Haye had abilities to negate Heavyweights in a manner Uysk does not really do 'David Haye athletically was a superior Athlete to Uysk. Haye had superior levels of power, and at his peak Haye had superior defensive capabilities'.
David Haye and Evander Holyfield 'They were fighters who had individual attributes, that were at Super Hero level'.
Oleksandr Uysk in terms of athleticism and even skill for skill 'I don't regard him as that type of fighter. Uysk's endurance is his most impressive attribute, it is very impressive 'But Joshua and Fury, still stayed in the fight the full 12 rounds vs Uysk. They were able to compete with Uysk'.
Note: Stylistically due to the type of fighter Oleksandr Uysk is? Uysk is almost always forced to beat these other Heavyweights in a very difficult way. And I just think that trait as a fighter, makes rematches and potential trilogie fights very difficult against fighters like Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury.
We all ready know this with the evidence from Uysk's two fights vs Joshua 'Anthony Joshua was the fighter who improved his effort the most out of the two fighters'.
If the potential 4th Joshua vs Uysk fight is ever made 'The trajectory of that match up, suggest Joshua is most likely going to push Uysk in a close competitive fight'.
I have a similar opinion on Tyson Fury 'I give Fury a serious chance of wining the rematch vs Uysk' etc.
1 - Fury always comes back stronger - See Wilder and McDermott
2 - He will be in better condition - Uysk looked old and tired
3 - He won't give away early rounds
4 - He knows what works against Uayk and wont lose focus next time
5 - Usyk is regressing every fight and won't get any better
Fury could win BUT
Usyk came in at a career heavy weight. If he was tried - he will come in a bit lighter next time
Usyk also know what works and what doesn't......
Fury gets knocked down or wobbled in every recent fight and struggled to beat an MMA guy. Things don't look good for him either.
Two reasons why Fury possibly wins a rematch:
He will be more cautious about Usyk's left hand
He will be more aggressive
He doesn't need much because it was a close fight, a split decision despite the knockdown. Will he do the necessary - about to see.
I can't say Usyk is old. Sure, he is past his youth for a fighter but so is Fury due to his alcohol, drugs and food abuse. Still, enough legends performed great at their age, even older.
I actually think KN had Ali's number and won at least 2 of those fights.
Haha I didn’t mean to open that can of worms. I recall, as a 12 year-old, scoring the rebroadcast of Ali-Norton II like I was gonna set the record straight — as many here seem to believe. Lmao But you get my point: the outcome of one fight, especially a close one, does not ensure the same result in the rematch. In fact, the loser of the first fight might win the next two of a trilogy.
he had two training camps for this fight, came in the lowest weight in 5 years. I cant imagine what kind of bender he goes on after this and his weight spirals out of control again, which he could come back from that in his 20s but in his mid 30s it will be even worse. his chin isnt what it used to be either.
he COULD come back better with a better game plan and adjustments but i worry more about him gaining weight and drinking and on drugs after the loss.
His game plan would probably change.
I have no idea why he tried to box with a smaller technical boxer.
Should've went and threw hands like he did with Wilder mk.2 than trying to box the boxer.
1 - Fury always comes back stronger - See Wilder and McDermott
2 - He will be in better condition - Uysk looked old and tired
3 - He won't give away early rounds
4 - He knows what works against Uayk and wont lose focus next time
5 - Usyk is regressing every fight and won't get any better
- - Y U looking old and stoopid? Do U cry wif Blubber too?
Likely won't get a rematch as Usyk don't want to give Blubber another payday, so now he go back to ducking AJ who don't need Blubber either, so a rematch wif Sefari beckons.and shot shyte of Whyte. He and he Fat Daddy banned in Vegas and Saudis don't want any more loosers and troublemakers in their country
Smartest thing I’ve read here all day. This was a very close fight, all except the ninth round. Anything can happen in the rematch. The Usyk boys are convinced it’ll be more of the same in the rematch, or worse. Fury’s fans insist he’ll adjust and come out on top. Ali had two big trilogies: one with Frazier, another with Norton. It must be remembered that he lost the first encounter in both. Not saying Tyson will do the same, but I wouldn’t be so sure Oleksandr does it again.
I actually think KN had Ali's number and won at least 2 of those fights.
I feel there will be no rematch.
Not because Fury doesn't believe he can win but I don't think he has the motivation to go through it all it again.
He was probably in the best shape of his life and I thought he fought really well, better than I have ever seen him actually.
His training camp must have been really hard as his stamina was also excellent.
I just don't think, that after he takes a break he can find the motivation to try again/get into that shape again. His upbeat attitude towards fighting Usyk will also have totally gone, so mentally it will be very different (harder) now. I think the fun has gone now.
Maybe he fights Joshua for one last big payday or someone else to go out with a win, but I don't see him fighting Usyk again.
Let me tell you that I am the only one with the right answer and that answer is:
NONE of us know what will happen next.
Smartest thing I’ve read here all day. This was a very close fight, all except the ninth round. Anything can happen in the rematch. The Usyk boys are convinced it’ll be more of the same in the rematch, or worse. Fury’s fans insist he’ll adjust and come out on top. Ali had two big trilogies: one with Frazier, another with Norton. It must be remembered that he lost the first encounter in both. Not saying Tyson will do the same, but I wouldn’t be so sure Oleksandr does it again.
Stupid fat cünt thought he could just dance around like a drunken fückwit goading and slapping, poking his glove in Usyks face with the odd uppercut thrown in as a variation over 12 rounds and get the decision.
Maybe if he'd saved the clowning til he'd bank the rounds and had a plan b that wasn't 'Arrrrghh im a fightin man, i cant be beat cos im too big too strong' things mighta been different.
I doubt it and i just can't see in any rematch that he'd do anything different or is capable of it. The guy is a sideshow carnival freak with a few boxing skills. More idiot than savant.
He and his dickhead dad deserved a comeuppance and got it. Maybe now they can disappear to some backward british county and compete against each other in the local village idiot contest.
My money would be on Fückwit John!
I don't think Fury can be much better than the other night he fought well for a few rounds but Usyk just went up another gear and took control
Fury could only ever beat him in the rematch if he fights the most perfect fight of his life from round 1 to 6 and try hold on for dear life to steal a round toward the finish to sneak a win