people really need to start scoring even rounds, especially when watching a fight live. there could easily be 4 even rounds in that fight which would still have usyk as the winner. in a close round you are inevitably going to spaz out and give it to the guy you like more because thats human nature but did he really win it or do you just like them more? unless there is clear evidence a guy won the round, just score it even. you can go back later and do a film study if you want a more accurate result but in the moment its pretty silly to tihnk you know exactly what punches landed and how many etc...dont think anyone is that good
A score of 7-5 Usyk or 8-4 Usyk are really the only two acceptable scores. How people are saying Fury won 6 rounds is beyond me. He still would have lost on the cards due to the knockdown. No way Fury won 6 rounds.
Only if your scoring the showboating and the air punches
6 it is
A score of 7-5 Usyk or 8-4 Usyk are really the only two acceptable scores. How people are saying Fury won 6 rounds is beyond me. He still would have lost on the cards due to the knockdown. No way Fury won 6 rounds.
Nah , Usyk got it.
I had it 6 rounds each, maybe 7-5 Usyk. 10-8 round cements the win.
It was a great fight, both fighters showed their ability at times.
Let's not try and say the guy that lost actually won, nor lets say it was an easy win for Usyk. It was a very competitive fight over 12 rounds.
I think 115-112 Usyk is completely fair. let's see it again.
If you have to use something called "nerd scoring on punch impact" to make an argument, you know you lost.
Usyk won it 116-111. Both 117-110 and 115-112 are fine.
I had it 6-6 I think so just the knockdown separated them.
There were like 4 or 5 swing rounds so that alone makes it a difficult fight to score.
Logic seems to elude people, it seems. Every close fight it seems to always be the same. Something like “I had it 9-3! What a robbery!” Well yes but how many of those 9 rounds you scored could be argued for the other guy? 3? 4? Just because your card was wide doesn’t mean the fight wasn’t close. Haney-Lomachenko was a perfect example of that. People having wide cards but failing to understand that most of the rounds were close rounds.
Either way, Usyk was rightful winner.
Literally couldn’t agree more with every word. Usyk had that burst in the 9th that made the difference. The rest of the fight was simply very close, with both fighters having a couple of clearer rounds. Usyk had a great win; no need to overstate his performance. But I don’t see a reason to believe Fury can’t win the rematch. I keep thinking of Ali-Frazier and Ali-Norton. This can be something similar.
I didn’t watch the fight live. I wound up watching it on YouTube, on a so-so quality representation. But although it wasn’t the ideal video, it seemed to me the fight was far closer than most people around here made it out to be. Lots of Fury-haters on this site, and the bias is evident from many of the scores/posts. As I’ve said before, the ninth round decided it. Everything else was very close, with several hard-to-score rounds. All credit to Usyk, however; I predicted Tyson would win fairly easily. Oleksandr proved me wrong. One of my buddies, a guy who’s been coaching for years, thought it was either a draw or a narrow win for Fury. He lives in London, so I suspect there’s a little bias on his part. Lol Nonetheless, it’s an example of how close this fight really was.
I had it 6-6 I think so just the knockdown separated them.
There were like 4 or 5 swing rounds so that alone makes it a difficult fight to score.
Logic seems to elude people, it seems. Every close fight it seems to always be the same. Something like “I had it 9-3! What a robbery!” Well yes but how many of those 9 rounds you scored could be argued for the other guy? 3? 4? Just because your card was wide doesn’t mean the fight wasn’t close. Haney-Lomachenko was a perfect example of that. People having wide cards but failing to understand that most of the rounds were close rounds.
Either way, Usyk was rightful winner.
Disagree...virtually all media outlets scored the fight for Usyk plus according to Compubox, he outlanded Fury 7 rounds to 5 plus a knockdown. Therefore, 115-12 was the most accurate scorecard plus there's an argument that bad refereeing saved Fury from being STOPPED in round 9!
CompuBox Stats: Oleksandr Usyk-Tyson Fury - Boxing News (boxingscene.com)
I do always find it funny when people like you say things like this.
"Easy fight to score" like just because you scored a debatable round for a fighter then somehow that's now a clear obvious round. Like 116-111 should be a universal scorecard, yet on press row it's one of the rare ones. Do you wonder why that is?
Anyway, obviously not an easy fight to score because there were a number of close rounds in there that could go to either man but the right man won is what matters.
I didn’t watch the fight live. I wound up watching it on YouTube, on a so-so quality representation. But although it wasn’t the ideal video, it seemed to me the fight was far closer than most people around here made it out to be. Lots of Fury-haters on this site, and the bias is evident from many of the scores/posts. As I’ve said before, the ninth round decided it. Everything else was very close, with several hard-to-score rounds. All credit to Usyk, however; I predicted Tyson would win fairly easily. Oleksandr proved me wrong. One of my buddies, a guy who’s been coaching for years, thought it was either a draw or a narrow win for Fury. He lives in London, so I suspect there’s a little bias on his part. Lol Nonetheless, it’s an example of how close this fight really was.
I def agree with your take, it was a close fight, fury started really well with them body shots, well placed uppers and lot movement but Usyk then started to close in distance with his signature sniper left hands(mostly cross and straight lefts) right to Furys nose til he got him really hurt, the gypsy is one tough bastard tho, recovered well and even took the last round imo,but it was little too late for the gypsy, I also agree anything could happen in a rematch, hell, maybe it could end up in a trilogy why not!?!
A trilogy is a real possibility. Too many guys around here going on like Usyk’s victory shut the door. That was a very close fight, as we’ve agreed; anyone could take the sequel. And if Fury does happen to win, which he easily could, then a trilogy is definitely in the cards. These two men are warriors; they would almost certainly want the rubber match. And the money would be insane. There would be zero reason to ever fight again.
Hearn was amazed that Fury didn't just take a knee since he will get a count anyway in that state.
But there is good reason not to go down. If he goes down, he likely can't get up in time.
or if he does, it will be with a complete loss of equilibrium, and 99% of judges call that off.
The fight is is over if he goes down, and so he stayed up.
I don't think he knew what he was doing at that point.
Instinct says stay up and instinct was all he had.
I thought Usyk won the 12th and won it pretty easily. Pressured Fury back the whole round, landed more punches, landed the harder punches. Easy to score.
Hearn was amazed that Fury didn't just take a knee since he will get a count anyway in that state.
But there is good reason not to go down. If he goes down, he likely can't get up in time.
or if he does, it will be with a complete loss of equilibrium, and 99% of judges call that off.
The fight is is over if he goes down, and so he stayed up.
Simple. Fury is good at fooling people into thinking blows are not impactful against him, and that they are impactful when he lands.
You say it's easy to see, but boxers have been doing this forever. Fury is particularly good at it. Clean and effective is very subjective but important in comparison to simple numbers of punches landed.
In the majority of these rounds the opposite was true. Usyk was busting him up. Fury was slapping. It has swayed people's view of the fight.
The punch landed in the 9th wasn't a one off. It was another in a series of damaging blows.
Fury wasn't slapping, that's how he punches on the move. My theory is that Usyk throws some punches that are fundamentally powerful, so that his lack of Zing won't become a factor.
Usyk uses his back more when he jabs, he tries different tricks to generate more force. It also makes sense defensively to switch levels, and being a smaller guy he has to be agile anyway.
Fury is sloppy ,not sure why he’s a great technical fighter on most standards ? He could cause problems for most though but that’s bc his size not skills .Never got it ! I don’t know . Lol
Anybody noticed their post getting removed? I've been commenting a lot since the Fury fight.
Checking my post activity.. it shows I haven't commented in 2 yrs..
This thread, I've been quoted yet my post is gone?
Maybe, maybe not. Muhammad Ali lost to Frazier in their first meeting, and also to Norton the first time. Each fight was closely contested, but Ali won both trilogies. Usyk-Fury was a very close fight, all except the ninth round. Anything can happen in the sequel.
I def agree with your take, it was a close fight, fury started really well with them body shots, well placed uppers and lot movement but Usyk then started to close in distance with his signature sniper left hands(mostly cross and straight lefts) right to Furys nose til he got him really hurt, the gypsy is one tough bastard tho, recovered well and even took the last round imo,but it was little too late for the gypsy, I also agree anything could happen in a rematch, hell, maybe it could end up in a trilogy why not!?!
while it may appear that way, he was rolling remarkably well for his state and anticipation of follow up shots, so we don’t know. He also does the same at the end before the referee rightfully called a knockdown from the ropes keeping him up, which should have happened earlier.
His head was getting whiplashed from the ropes. I don’t understand this rolling remarkably unless you are crediting the number of 360 Usyk made his fat head look like a spinning atlas. Go and look at Lennox Lewis vantage point of the 9th round. I promise when you see it you will appreciate just how F# ucked he was. I will admit Fury’s powers of recovery is commendable
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