Fury 262, Usyk 233, thoughts?

He was 254 against wallin and yet he still couldn’t get away from him….now he is older , has far more mileage , suffered severe cuts and was lucky he wasn’t stopped…walllin was southpaw and so is usyk except usyk is a different galaxy to wallin….make no mistake if fury did pull this off then he is undoubtedly the best heavyweight in the world and I’m from the U.K. and of course I should be rooting for him but he behaves like such a twat it’s difficult to cheer for him. This by far the best fighter fury has ever faced and I think fury knows it…..you have not seen the best of usyk and I think tomorrow you will see just how good he is. selling a fight is being a twat nowadays lol if they both behaved like cub scouts and the same character then there wont be too much hype for the fight. Fury brought back the attention to the heavyweights and made it entertaining again after like 10 years of boringness. Sometimes people really can’t see behind the persona these celebs are trying to portray but if you listen closely ive heard more insightful things fury shared over the years than any boxer i followed actually. His serious interviews are deep and articulate… reason why i’ve been a fan actually before i even saw him fight.

Living in a cave? He always looks like this. Even flabbier at times Look at the wilder fights in which he was in the 270's. He had noticably more muscle packed on his upper body,which helped him manhandle wilder in the pocket. His arms are much thinner this time around.

Fury looked like he doesn't have an ounce of muscle on him. Living in a cave? He always looks like this. Even flabbier at times

Fury took this fight seriously he looks in great shape , Usyk also looked phenomenal ............Gonna be good :boxing::boxing:

Fury looked like he doesn't have an ounce of muscle on him. True he looks like went on low protein diet to make weight and has zero muscle tone. If I hadn't seen him look like this in the past and win I would think his chin would be gone from coming into the fight "dead".

Beterbiev has faced fast movers and boxers though. I can’t recall the last time Fury faced a great “Boxer” aside from maybe Wlad who was the worst of the Klits Goes both ways though We have absolutely no idea how Usyk deals with a huge guy that knows how to use his reach, maybe its his kryptinite, nobody can say as we've never seen it. Its just pure guess work as it stands. We've heard he was good sparring Wlad but he's fighting a guy who clowned Wlad at the long game. People also act like Usyk has just cruised through every opponent. The Briedis fight could've gone either way, I had it a draw like many others did. Neither guy is unbeatable. People have this vision of Usyk like he's some unbeatable talent like they did with Loma and we've seen that's not true. Usyk is a lot more hittable than people wanna admit too. go watch the Chisora fight in the 2nd or 3rd round, slow Chisora was landing flush shots. AJ had his face busted up in the first fight. Dubois should've arguably had a KO win, some refs would've been fine with it. Bellew was tagging him. Briedis was landing a lot on him and probably the more effective punches in the fight. He's not the defensive wizard people think, I've been saying that on here before he ever fought at heavyweight They're all beatable, Fury included. I think Usyk is excellent, he clearly is, I just feel he's more beatable than people admit, and certainly not as defensively good as they say, people act like hes elusive. He has a good chin, he's had to show it many times

Just found out myself. Off by 10lbs. 223 Oh... LOL... Doesn't change the probable outcome though ....:cool:

its a fair point. Its a shame BJS was so unprofessional and inactive, most fighters would kill for his natural ability. I really think he is a wasted talent. I think with more discipline he would've been a truly top fighter. As for Fury, its hard to say, of course things will catch up with him. But he's also a bit weird, he really had no business getting back to this level after being over 400lbs but he did. His last performance was shockingly bad and it could be an indication he's really declined quickly, but he looked fine in the fights before that, so who knows. We know he can look poor and then really turn it on for his biggest challenges. We'll see tomorrow. What i will say is if Fury looks good tomorrow, I still think he's only got a couple of good fights in him. I actually think the same for Usyk too, he's coming up 38, even the guys that look after themselves well can age quickly. I thought he looked a bit older in the Dubois fight, aside from the shot he went down with, legal or not, I don't really think he looked quite as sharp, dubois is just a quitter. I actually thought he was better in the first AJ fight than the second, could that be a regression in sharpness? he's not young, he's had a long career, amateur and pro, lots of camps. Everyone is in decline after 35, just some slowly and some rapidly. Nobody is getting better in their late 30s. boxing history tells us that. You mentioned Beterbiev, he might be 39, but a part of still looking good is the opposition. Would you be surprised to suddenly see him look around 40 vs Bivol? I know I wouldn't l. All it takes is the right opponent. Beterbiev has faced fast movers and boxers though. I can’t recall the last time Fury faced a great “Boxer” aside from maybe Wlad who was the worst of the Klits

Think that's a great weight for him Same. He looks fit, and solid and he has a gas tank for 15 rounders.

Just found out myself. Off by 10lbs. 223 Think that's a great weight for him

buffer the bluffer

Didn't realise that bud. Just found out myself. Off by 10lbs. 223

Usyk didn’t come heavy. Buffer ****ed up Didn't realise that bud.

I don't like usyk coming in heavy. Must be a plan behind it tho. Expecting fury to win first 3 or 4 rounds then usyk taking over Usyk didn’t come heavy. Buffer fucked up

Fury looks a little soft around the body. I think it's going to be opposite and Usyk is going to rip the body of Fury. It's going to be a Usyk clinic.

I don't like usyk coming in heavy. Must be a plan behind it tho. Expecting fury to win first 3 or 4 rounds then usyk taking over

The irony here, and I just realized this 5 minutes ago. the reason im picking Usyk is the same reason I picked Canelo. You can look in “the best shape of your life” all you want, but you can’t undo 35 years of boozing, drugs and abuse. I also thought Saunders was about to “fall off the cliff” before Canelo landed that lucky shot. BJS was jumping into grabs like he always did when he needed a second wind. Had that shot not landed he prob gets stopped 1-2 rounds later. You cant “part time” your fitness and expect it to not catch up to you. This is why I always point out Beterbiev and Kovalev are the same age lol its a fair point. Its a shame BJS was so unprofessional and inactive, most fighters would kill for his natural ability. I really think he is a wasted talent. I think with more discipline he would've been a truly top fighter. As for Fury, its hard to say, of course things will catch up with him. But he's also a bit weird, he really had no business getting back to this level after being over 400lbs but he did. His last performance was shockingly bad and it could be an indication he's really declined quickly, but he looked fine in the fights before that, so who knows. We know he can look poor and then really turn it on for his biggest challenges. We'll see tomorrow. What i will say is if Fury looks good tomorrow, I still think he's only got a couple of good fights in him. I actually think the same for Usyk too, he's coming up 38, even the guys that look after themselves well can age quickly. I thought he looked a bit older in the Dubois fight, aside from the shot he went down with, legal or not, I don't really think he looked quite as sharp, dubois is just a quitter. I actually thought he was better in the first AJ fight than the second, could that be a regression in sharpness? he's not young, he's had a long career, amateur and pro, lots of camps. Everyone is in decline after 35, just some slowly and some rapidly. Nobody is getting better in their late 30s. boxing history tells us that. You mentioned Beterbiev, he might be 39, but a part of still looking good is the opposition. Would you be surprised to suddenly see him look around 40 vs Bivol? I know I wouldn't l. All it takes is the right opponent.

Well considering they've already confirmed the date for a rematch then you could see why it's possible. Might be worth a little bet. Last odds I saw for a draw was 16/1 I’m hedging on a draw like this is a Canelo fight lol

Fury looked like he doesn't have an ounce of muscle on him. It's how his physique is even when he was young before ballooning to 180 kg. he never looked shredded or muscular (probably it has to do with the fact he was born 3 months prematurely weighing half a kilogram), aside from the fact his muscles are soft (which isn't a bad thing except from a visual standpoint). He was atrophied in his Francis fight but now you can clearly see the man had done some serious work for this fight. Actually, both felt the need - Fury to get slimmer and more fit, Usyk to get stronger and heavier. This is a good sign and it's interesting. While it has been a long time since Fury was that light, Usyk was never that heavy 106 kg.)

Fluke injury when BJS was taking over :lol1: - We all get one wrong anyway. Anyway I've never been wrong on a Fury fight yet. I was one of the only members here that laid out exactly how he beats Wlad. Everyone else was saying he gets smoked. Anyway it's all part of the fun isn't it? You can't sit on the fence. People on here take it way too seriously too. I just have a laugh, back a fighter, give my opinions and enjoy the back and forth banter with other boxing fans. If Fury wins, great, i was right. If Usyk wins then he wins, he's a great fighter and he'll deserve it. The irony here, and I just realized this 5 minutes ago. the reason im picking Usyk is the same reason I picked Canelo. You can look in “the best shape of your life” all you want, but you can’t undo 35 years of boozing, drugs and abuse. I also thought Saunders was about to “fall off the cliff” before Canelo landed that lucky shot. BJS was jumping into grabs like he always did when he needed a second wind. Had that shot not landed he prob gets stopped 1-2 rounds later. You cant “part time” your fitness and expect it to not catch up to you. This is why I always point out Beterbiev and Kovalev are the same age lol