What do you think guys? I think he should fight Usyk backwards, fight tall, fight rangy, feints, jab, jab, jab.. take advantage of the clinches when it comes and then put his weight all over usyk. Limit Usyk’s workrate and opportunities as much as possible. Make it boring. Wash rinse and repeat until he feels Usyk is wearing out a bit, then he can up his aggressive game. In this mode he’ll be difficult to reach given his height and reach advantage. But the cons of this strategy is if Usyk is really way faster than Fury is.
Usyk is just too sharp, quick and has plenty of angles to be pinned down. You’d eat combinations if you charge him. Your head is gonna be constantly snapped in the inside.
Or he can go directly to Kronk Style?
We'll see.
I think you're underestimating Usyk's ability to control the distance. He controls distance like no-one else in the division.
If the fight becomes about fighting from range, then I pick Usyk every single time.
Fury's jab is a weapon. But Usyk isn't going to be a stationary target for it.
i think if it is a midrange game then Usyk will pepper Fury and beat him to the punch. But if it’s a potshotting and clinching fury (everytime Usyk comes too close) with his ring generalship I think he can offset Usyk movement’s speed and at times make him run into something.
You make it sound like Usyk is a pressure fighter and he's really not. He does get very physical when he can. I've actually pointed this out because people don't realize it.
And to whom do you attribute this godly quality this magic lead foot of USYK? I don't see any gigantic fighters who have a tremendous reach advantage over him that he's done this to. Joshua has some reach but Usyk did not be Joshua by being in front of him all night.
He beat Joshua by attacking at key points and becoming physical with him when he could.
You're underestimating Furys ability to use distance. Watch the Vlad fight and that should tell you everything you need to know. It's not that USYK could not get inside, or into position, it's just that it would be very difficult given furys skill set.
We'll see.
I think you're underestimating Usyk's ability to control the distance. He controls distance like no-one else in the division.
If the fight becomes about fighting from range, then I pick Usyk every single time.
Fury's jab is a weapon. But Usyk isn't going to be a stationary target for it.
Chisora had no problem with the angles and counters when he bulldozed in
This is true. Chisora’s dimension/size though made it easier for him to do so without creating more openings for Usyk every time he bulldozed in.
I think this is one of them fights where you just gotta simplify fighting Usyk. Kind of like what Maidana did against Floyd I — he didn’t win but he didn’t care about the technical parts and looking good, and he did well.
i think the more this turns to simplified fight the better chance fury gets. Either by using his height and reach or by making it a brawl.
Chisora had no problem with the angles and counters when he bulldozed in
Actually chisora is a perfect example of when
Usyk had to contend with a guy he could not assert himself upon. If you watch Usyks fights he is a closet bully. I mean that in a good way. He tends to get physical with his opponent as soon as he can. He even did this with Joshua to a degree.
You don't do that to chisora.
Now I understand usyk had to make many adjustments after he fought chisora. But I find the notion that a fighter who totally controlled distance with Klitschko, will have usyk in front of him all night... While having reach and fighting off his back foot.
Stranger things have happened. I still think it is Fury's advantage to yield and not something that can merely be asserted.
Everyone who has fought Usyk has said that his lead foot feels like it is right there immediately in front of them the whole fight.
It's not as simple as keeping range when a guy is so effective at seemingly being in range all night. Except he's not there anymore when you try to engage.
Fury wouldn't end up fighting on the back foot. He'd end up running backwards all night.
You make it sound like Usyk is a pressure fighter and he's really not. He does get very physical when he can. I've actually pointed this out because people don't realize it.
And to whom do you attribute this godly quality this magic lead foot of USYK? I don't see any gigantic fighters who have a tremendous reach advantage over him that he's done this to. Joshua has some reach but Usyk did not be Joshua by being in front of him all night.
He beat Joshua by attacking at key points and becoming physical with him when he could.
You're underestimating Furys ability to use distance. Watch the Vlad fight and that should tell you everything you need to know. It's not that USYK could not get inside, or into position, it's just that it would be very difficult given furys skill set.
Neither has much inside game.
Fury obviously has the weight and will look to lean, but Usyk is likely to catch him coming in and provide angles to offset Tyson falling in.
Some people think Fury can just bulldoze forward. But those angles and counters will be a serious problem.
Fury should keep range, slow the pace and frustrate Usyk. Make it boring.
Chisora had no problem with the angles and counters when he bulldozed in
To be fair it's a better idea than Joshua
Go in with only plan A
Rematch?
Try plan A again.
It's called having a 'boxing computer'. Like running a Pentium 3 against a Pentium 4.
"Levels to the game" right? For many this WOULD be a suprise. But if one really thinks about it? Lets say you and I are in the ring, and you have the proportions of Usyk, I am the Gypsy King.... The minute we shake and start, I can use my arm reach to catch you before you can catch me... Now, I take a back foot position... You have almost half the ring to come through (distance wise) to be in range to catch me...
So to those who know it makes perfect sense for Fury to outbox Usyk. He has a tremendous advantage with respect to distance and using length. Two fighters who are similar skill wise... one guy has an extra 3 feet, what would one expect to happen?
Everyone who has fought Usyk has said that his lead foot feels like it is right there immediately in front of them the whole fight.
It's not as simple as keeping range when a guy is so effective at seemingly being in range all night. Except he's not there anymore when you try to engage.
Fury wouldn't end up fighting on the back foot. He'd end up running backwards all night.
But Usyk has no inside game at all, he just covers up and waits for the ref to break.
Neither has much inside game.
Fury obviously has the weight and will look to lean, but Usyk is likely to catch him coming in and provide angles to offset Tyson falling in.
Some people think Fury can just bulldoze forward. But those angles and counters will be a serious problem.
Fury should keep range, slow the pace and frustrate Usyk. Make it boring.
I think Fury is going to suprise everyone and outbox him.
"Levels to the game" right? For many this WOULD be a suprise. But if one really thinks about it? Lets say you and I are in the ring, and you have the proportions of Usyk, I am the Gypsy King.... The minute we shake and start, I can use my arm reach to catch you before you can catch me... Now, I take a back foot position... You have almost half the ring to come through (distance wise) to be in range to catch me...
So to those who know it makes perfect sense for Fury to outbox Usyk. He has a tremendous advantage with respect to distance and using length. Two fighters who are similar skill wise... one guy has an extra 3 feet, what would one expect to happen?
I don't think it's as simple as just box at long range or walk him down. I expect the vast majority of the fight to play out at a distance where they are hand-fighting and jockeying for position.
Usyk is the smaller man but he's not that small. He has grown into the division now (unlike in the Chisora fight when he still looked like a cruiserweight). He didn't look over-matched versus Joshua and I don't think he will against Fury either. I don't see Fury's size being nearly as big of a factor as most seem to. Maybe in the late rounds when they're both tired, but that's it.
Fury gets away with some sloppy mistakes against lesser boxers that he won't be able to here. If he tries to punch and fall in behind it to clinch as he often does, he will be forced to reach and get countered. I also expect the southpaw stance to give him problems and create openings in his own defense he's not used to. I wonder then, will Fury himself come out as a southpaw in an effort to offset this inherent 'advantage' and throw a wrench in the works? I won't be surprised if he does tbh.
This is exactly what I expect him to do he is going to use that reach advantage, keep him on the outside and when he comes in clinch use his size and make Usyk have to reset
Usyk doesn't have the gas tank like Fury either it's going to be an ugly fight and one people will complain about when Fury stinks the place out but wins
Fury having a better gas tank? Really? It’s good for a man of his size but Usyk throws combos and moves nonstop for 12 rounds. Not even close.
Fury would need all he has in his arsenal to beat Usyk. And that will mean changing tactics during the fight...on the back foot, fighting at range, switching between orthodox and southpaw to counter Usyk's lateral movement, coming forward trying to run him over, clinching and dirty tactics, body shots, and uppercuts. Trying to fight like AJ would be simply dumb because he did not take advantage of any of his attributes.
I think Fury is smarter and will have better chances at the beginning because it will be more difficult once Usyk starts to get comfortable with Fury's movements, range, and timing.