Pathetic if Fury doesn't beat Usyk.

It won't take away from Usyk being undisputed, but I won't be 100% sure how Usyk would have performed against the fury of 4 or 5 years ago because Fury simply isn't that guy anymore. That is bull.shit. You could say the same about every single fight. Oh, he wouldn't have beaten him 5 years ago lol.

It is top level fight. Who wins wins. No excuses. The one that loses won't be a coward and a bum because of that. They will do it twice, likely.

Once again my friend, context is king. We have seen a peak Fury and we know how high level he is. We also know that Fury was morbidly obese for years, is a very heavy drinker, takes recreational drugs and has bipolar disorder. That's just the reality of the situation here, you aren't dealing with a dedicated athlete like Usyk who trains every day. It's Fury's fault for behaving like that, but Fury has appeared to be on the slide since the second Wilder fight, that was 4 years ago now. His last fight was the worst performance of his career, if he goes in and looks flat against Usyk, it is what it is. It won't take away from Usyk being undisputed, but I won't be 100% sure how Usyk would have performed against the fury of 4 or 5 years ago because Fury simply isn't that guy anymore. Fury is a riddick Bowe type, he has almost limitless potential but squander a great deal of it and may just lose to a more consistent boxer. If Fury manages to beat Usyk, then AJ and gets out the door undefeated that'd be absoloutley insane because he's not really even a professional athlete. It's Fury's fault but it's also just the fighter that he is. Potential is a factor of ability and dedication. Lacking the dedication to train or face the kind of competition that you should is just as much of a weakness as lacking a decent jab. This is Tyson Fury, with all his strengths and weaknesses. If he loses, it's because Usyk is better. ​​​​​And if that happens I think it will be right to question just how good 'Comeback Fury' ever was. Because beating Wilder isn't worth as much as he insisted it was.

usyk has earned his corn he legit beat AJ twice & lots of AJ'ers think he would beat fury I reckon Fury will beat Ursk but Id back AJ to beat Fury, a size and style thing.

So if he wins, he's great and he would always beat Usyk. And if he loses then he's still great and would typically beat Usyk, but he just couldn't be bothered. It's incredible how many people fall for Fury's low level voodoo. Once again my friend, context is king. We have seen a peak Fury and we know how high level he is. We also know that Fury was morbidly obese for years, is a very heavy drinker, takes recreational drugs and has bipolar disorder. That's just the reality of the situation here, you aren't dealing with a dedicated athlete like Usyk who trains every day. It's Fury's fault for behaving like that, but Fury has appeared to be on the slide since the second Wilder fight, that was 4 years ago now. His last fight was the worst performance of his career, if he goes in and looks flat against Usyk, it is what it is. It won't take away from Usyk being undisputed, but I won't be 100% sure how Usyk would have performed against the fury of 4 or 5 years ago because Fury simply isn't that guy anymore. Fury is a riddick Bowe type, he has almost limitless potential but squander a great deal of it and may just lose to a more consistent boxer. If Fury manages to beat Usyk, then AJ and gets out the door undefeated that'd be absoloutley insane because he's not really even a professional athlete.

Pretty much comes down to how motivated Fury is. If the guy that was counted out against Wilder the first time shows up Usyk is losing. Fury has all the advantages and is smart enough to keep Usyk from fighting on the inside. But if Fury comes in lazy or hasn’t been motivated in camp the. It’s anybody’s fight. So if he wins, he's great and he would always beat Usyk. And if he loses then he's still great and would typically beat Usyk, but he just couldn't be bothered. It's incredible how many people fall for Fury's low level voodoo.

Pretty much comes down to how motivated Fury is. If the guy that was counted out against Wilder the first time shows up Usyk is losing. Fury has all the advantages and is smart enough to keep Usyk from fighting on the inside. But if Fury comes in lazy or hasn’t been motivated in camp the. It’s anybody’s fight.

No, what's pathetic is Fury almost getting beat by Ngannou. If Usyk smokes him, and it's highly likely, there wouldn't be anything pathetic about it. Usyk is good and is expected to have MORE than a puncher's chance. Fury will need to manhandle Usyk or resort to dirty tactics to win. Usyk will school his head off the entire fight otherwise.

usyk has earned his corn he legit beat AJ twice & lots of AJ'ers think he would beat fury

Interesting that there is a consensus that this fight is Fury's to win or lose. Many posts start with "depending on what Fury shows up for the fight Will determine the outcome." Some of you think it is a matter of style... If Usyk can have success or not against Fury. What I do not hear is what Usyk has to do to win this fight. To me? this info says it all... Consensus is a strong tool for getting things right, and right in this case would be, Usyk cannot do anything to Fury... Cunningham is a red herring for many reasons: Fury was younger, Cunningham can punch, Fury was not really hurt by Cunningham... Ultimately Fury made adjustments that shut Cunningham down. Is Usyk better than Cunningham? Yes, but so what? What does this do for Usyk? Think about it... I agree with the sentiments of the thread.

Fury has more routes to victory anyways... He'll either be confirmed as legit, or exposed as a fraud.

It is however weird that people accuse Fury that he is using his size - guys, if you are taller and heavier than everyone you face, wouldn't you use it? No matter if it is a competition or a street fight. Speed, power, size, technique, IQ - those are all gifts. When it comes to boxing (or any other fighting style) - using any of these under the rules is even mandatory for a fighter to do. Fury got dropped multiple times - true. Did it result in losses - no. Usyk got dropped multiple times by body shots - did he always complain/simulate low blows - yes (and don't forget Luis Pabon and his pro-Ukrainian spirit: Klitschko-Povetkin, Joshua-Usyk II, Usyk-Dubois). End of story. We have just a few days to see who will win and of course, what will be the rematch outcome. There is nothing pathetic no matter who loses (I doubt this fight will end in a draw, not that it is impossible). What can be shameful is the performance which I (again doubt) will happen. I don't know where you got the idea that Usyk has been dropped multiple times from. As a pro, he has never been dropped by a legal punch, body or head. You have to go right back to his amateur days to find one instance of him being dropped by a body punch. And that was at HW against Beterbiev, who might well be the hardest puncher in the game, P4P. And what happened after Beterbiev dropped him? Usyk recovered quickly, got up, and finished the fight.

Confused. Wouldn’t it be also pathetic if Joshua didn’t beat Usyk? or any heavyweight for that matter? Usyk is a special talent. Don’t disrespect him because you don’t like Fury.

Oh, he was certainly playing. Playing in training, playing in the fight, and nothing but. Fury knew what he had in front of him was a guy who did his boxing against chinless grapplers and kickers who knew at the the time of their career choice that they ought to stay clear of the big leagues and settle for peanuts. Fury sparred for 10 rounds, made it look competative and took the millions. Only the least intuned observers could read anything further from that. Step one in debriefing was Joshua NOT playing. Step two will be Fury's demolition of Usyk. Trust and believe. Fury might have gone into the Ngannou fight expecting to play with Francis, but what actually happened was something very different. I don't see any way he demolishes Usyk. He might beat him, but neither of these guys is going to demolish the other.

Usyk cant take it to the body but the problem is that his huge height makes it harder for tyson to target the body like that.

It is however weird that people accuse Fury that he is using his size - guys, if you are taller and heavier than everyone you face, wouldn't you use it? No matter if it is a competition or a street fight. Speed, power, size, technique, IQ - those are all gifts. When it comes to boxing (or any other fighting style) - using any of them under the rules is even mandatory for a fighter to do. Fury got dropped multiple times - true. Did it result in losses - no. Usyk got dropped multiple times by body shots - did he always complain/simulate low blows - yes (and don't forget Luis Pabon and his pro-Ukrainian spirit: Klitschko-Povetkin, Joshua-Usyk II, Usyk-Dubois). End of story. We have just a few days to see who will win and of course and eventually, what will be the rematch outcome. There is nothing pathetic no matter who loses - I doubt this fight will end in a draw, not that it is impossible. What can be shameful is the performance which I again doubt will happen.

I will repeat this until the end of times. usyk got dropped by the first big shot ever took from a heavyweight, and that heavyweight is a bum "Bums" don't earn $2,014,250.00 for an unsuccessful title shot. Shoot brother, if being a bum paid that good there'd be no bums.​ That said, the Knockdown looked fair on the belt line.

Fury wasn't playing with Ngannou when he got countered and decked by a left hook, or when he lunged in trying to clinch and got tossed contemptuously into the ropes like a rag doll. He was struggling, badly. The way AJ effortlessly disposed of Francis 3 months later illustrated just how awful Fury was in that fight. Oh, he was certainly playing. Playing in training, playing in the fight, and nothing but. Fury knew what he had in front of him was a guy who did his boxing against chinless grapplers and kickers who knew at the the time of their career choice that they ought to stay clear of the big leagues and settle for peanuts. Fury sparred for 10 rounds, made it look competative and took the millions. Only the least intuned observers could read anything further from that. Step one in debriefing was Joshua NOT playing. Step two will be Fury's demolition of Usyk. Trust and believe.

Odds are very close. Fury is the very, very slight favorite. It appears that the oddsmakers, media and most fans have this as a 50-50 fight. So no shame in anyone losing. It seems like no one is really sure. I myself keep going back and forth with myself on who’s going to win and why. The truth is idk. Idk which Fury will show up, and if Usyk can take care of the best of Fury. The best of Fury includes fighting dirty, using his weight, but staying away and boxing as he wears down the smaller Usyk. I just don’t know. Great match up. What style of fighter is Usyk classified as?

By saying something like that, what you're showing is that.... You know Nothing about boxing, fighting, athletics or sport. Why do you post here?​ Fury struggled with a man who never had a boxing camp in his life, let alone a fight.