His fight weights since the Jerry Forrest fight where he almost died of dehyrdation:
256 vs Forrest
274 vs Lewis
276 vs Alexander
277 vs Hrgovic
278 vs Joyce I
287 vs Joyce II
291 vs Parker
His 30 day check in before the Wilder fight? 297 pounds.
I hope wilder starches this bloated excuse of a boxer.
One thing that really annoys me is a fighter who has great technical ability and power who has then been given a great chance in winning a pot of gold turn up out of shape and overweight….i cannot fathom tthe mental state that makes them not put it all on the line, especially with zhang who had a wake up call against Parker in his recent loss
I blame big John Fisher
Ever since he took Zhang for a proper Chinese takeaway and got him on the sweet and sour pork, Zhang hasn't been the same.
Bosh!!!!!!!!!!!
Yikes. Dude's gonna lumber around for 4 rounds then quit on his stool because he wont be able to move. If Wilder survives that long.
At the same time.. Zhang will be a stationary target for those 4 rounds. Can Wilder still throw a decent straight right? The smart game plan for him would be to outlast ZHang.. which is a near guaranteed win. But he may want to KO him instead, and risk getting KOd himself.
Ridiculous justification for a guy ruining his health and ruining his career. Really stupid. I have an open mind but this is ridiculous!
For the amount of extra power one might get was a little extra weight, the amount of mobility sacrificed is far greater. Why does the Chinese fighter believe this will increase his power? Even that is a strange contention.
Wilder at his best comes prancing across the ring does not get into a physical situation.
Really silly thinking here.
Zhang is just using this as a reason to gorge himself like an undisciplined fat-ass.
great goal for a guy who’s only dangerous for 6 rounds and then becomes a stationary target.
Not to mention the extra weight is also going to slow him down (hand speed and foot speed).
It is obvious: he prefers to rely on weight because Wilder will most probably be as light as he was in his entire career. Add that to his legs and then imagine him (around 100 kg.) against approximately 135 kg. Zhang. I think this is a poor decision of Zhang because, unlike Wilder, his cardio sucks and he can still be dangerous and outweigh him at 120-125 kg. Something is freaking in this fight.
You should not have a 50 pound variation in weight, i dont care if its a 40 year old heavyweight, hes still supposedly an active heavyweight.
Its nearly impossble to do any roadwork without fuking up his knees at that weight. so now he has no stamina.
You know what's funny? Most people don't know what it's like to be 300 lb and have muscle, not only fat. How hard it is to move. When I got hit by a vehicle and have my knee surgery and couldn't move I got up to just over 300.
Bringing things back down when I could move again, I've got to tell you it's hard to move comfortably at that weight Even with strong muscles and bones. I guess that's why I'm always skeptical when I see all these heavyweights coming in so damn big.
I know there are certain advantages but having experienced what I did I'm just skeptical. Then again this hit me when I was past 50 so maybe younger guys it's not so bad.
I think Wilder could hurt him , Zhangs only been hit by one big puncher cleanly and he got knocked down by Hrgovic even if it wasn’t counted , Joyce is a thudding slow puncher ,Wilders got speed but physically at his weight he’s at a disadvantage if Zhang decides to hold excessive. I think it’s another Breazeale fight whoever lands clean first I think most likely wins ? I really don’t think it’s going past mid rounds either way I think Wilders weight is actually more important here ppl will say he can move better lighter but that won’t be the issue it’ll be more about being physically strong enough that he won’t get ragged dolled in there , 225/230 pounds is a big difference from hovering at 215 for a 6”7 guy , Wilder imop needs to train for a 6 rounder and just go fir it because I think he’s in trouble if it gets out into the later rounds ,he doesn’t have the punch output to tire Zhang out .
That's a very interesting perspective j. I always learn from looking at things differently you make some points here strategy wise. In fact if Wilder did train for six rounder I think that's a really a great idea. You could literally make it so that even if it goes past six you making it so that you can exert a full amount per the rounds. Kind of like the sprinter who instead of doing a mile does four quarter mile sprints and then puts them together.
The holding. This could be a big factor it makes a lot of sense. Wilder really has to be able to keep his distance. It's the whole axis for his approach. He's just not that big physically. I don't know if extra weight would help him, but it certainly possible and you raised a very important point because this will become important during the fight. It's obviously what Jang is considering.
I agree with you about who lands first. This is not going to be a Forman in Lyle affair lol.
You should not have a 50 pound variation in weight, i dont care if its a 40 year old heavyweight, hes still supposedly an active heavyweight.
Its nearly impossble to do any roadwork without fuking up his knees at that weight. so now he has no stamina.
I don’t think power is really the goal here I think it’s to lean on Wilder and use the Fury blue print which just may work ? I’m rooting for Wilder fir once just because I don5 believe they will actually let him fight anyone else but Joshua should he win , my guess is if he wins all this Jared Anderson talk gets quickly forgotten and they go right into the Joshua fight provided Fury defeats Usyk ,a lot has to happen but I’ve seen crazier things .
I just question whether it's worth the extra weight considering all the mobility lost.
Yeah crazier things have happened lol. But yeah a few things have to come to fruition. I'm excited to see if Jang can take the shot, how he takes the shot. Provided Wilder can deliver it.
Yeah but that’s why I said Zhang has a good chin. Zhang can crack, has a good chin, and will be bigger. I think he’s going to take Wilder’s best shots, and idk if Wilder will take Zhang’s best. That’s my point, that even though Wilder can punch, I don’t think he’s getting Zhang out of there. And Wilder has shown if he can’t get you out of there he’s got nothing else.
I just don't know if the extra weight will help his chin. I'm very interested to see if Wilder catches him what happens lol. It's just kind of an unknown isn't it? I have a hard time even taking an opinion on this possibility.
Wilder has at times not been effective but when he has hit somebody properly, pretty much they always have least fell down. I guess the question is will Jang be the exception that way?
Wilder is a puncher because of his speed of delivery, the way he uses his kinetic chain, his weight has little to do with it. Weight is one of many variables. Wilder is a much better fighter when he is mobile. The fact that he can crack at a range that is in the range for most punchers throughout history is telling.
Yeah but that’s why I said Zhang has a good chin. Zhang can crack, has a good chin, and will be bigger. I think he’s going to take Wilder’s best shots, and idk if Wilder will take Zhang’s best. That’s my point, that even though Wilder can punch, I don’t think he’s getting Zhang out of there. And Wilder has shown if he can’t get you out of there he’s got nothing else.
Zhang by a KO. Wilder has no legs. the game plan is clear: catch Wilder in the first rounds, before Wilder catches him.
Coming to the ring at around 300 The only thing the Chinaman will be able to catch is a Big Mac left in the middle of the ring with no legs to speak of. Even a Peking duck could probably move faster.
If Wilder comes in at 212-215 or something crazy like that, he’s going to be in big trouble. Regardless of Zhang’s age, he still has a dangerous left hand and him being 300lbs in the ring vs a 215lb Wilder, will be nuts. I also think that while Zhang is old, so is Wilder, and Zhang has a really good chin and Wilder’s has been cracked already. This could end in disaster for Wilder.
Wilder is a puncher because of his speed of delivery, the way he uses his kinetic chain, his weight has little to do with it. Weight is one of many variables. Wilder is a much better fighter when he is mobile. The fact that he can crack at a range that is in the range for most punchers throughout history is telling.
Ridiculous justification for a guy ruining his health and ruining his career. Really stupid. I have an open mind but this is ridiculous!
For the amount of extra power one might get was a little extra weight, the amount of mobility sacrificed is far greater. Why does the Chinese fighter believe this will increase his power? Even that is a strange contention.
Wilder at his best comes prancing across the ring does not get into a physical situation.
Really silly thinking here.
If Wilder comes in at 212-215 or something crazy like that, he’s going to be in big trouble. Regardless of Zhang’s age, he still has a dangerous left hand and him being 300lbs in the ring vs a 215lb Wilder, will be nuts. I also think that while Zhang is old, so is Wilder, and Zhang has a really good chin and Wilder’s has been cracked already. This could end in disaster for Wilder.