As we all know both fighters struggled to find their targets in a competitive chess match... Even older and shopworn Manny was able to cause Floyd problems unlike other fighters, he had Floyd on his bicycle early rounds and old Floyd couldn't dance those middle rounds due to the pressure, and Manny was able to force a fight in the middle of the ring and neutralize Floyd jab like he did Oscar...Floyd adjusted putting his jab in the holster and hooking turning and holding Manny until he lost his focus, and that's all she wrote ....
But how would that fight played out of that was the Manny from the Oscar match. I just rewatched that fight YouTube binging today and was like that Manny was a bad muthafukka the offense, the feints, the defense taking away Oscar jab and noticing when Oscar feet is planted he doesn't throw shots, I'm not sure if any welter beating that Manny even floyd
I feel the same way about Floyd canelo, Floyd was huge at home and probably a jmw then he was hitting moving and hurting the shyt outta canelo consistently...til this day Floyd buzzed him most, and resorted to fouling at times to buy time as he was on his way to getting dropped a few times...if boxing was Dragonball z Floyd was perfect cell playing with his food, playing with a young atg who had hof bodies under his belt already, beating him toying with a smile.
Both fights those guys were completely locked in who wins if those two guys from those two nights duked it out, discuss....
It was a 8-4 type of fight ....a year or two earlier Manny could have made that 8-4, to a 7-5 or draw
Watch the fight. Floyd beat Manny. I’m saying this as a Pacquiao fan. Would it have been different if Manny had a healthy shoulder? Perhaps. We’ll never know.
Think of it this way. If you could count all the rounds Manny/Floyd won and lost over their career. Who won more rounds?. That’s easy, Mayweather.
It was a 8-4 type of fight ....a year or two earlier Manny could have made that 8-4, to a 7-5 or draw
Well you’re obviously not neutral, because Pac won 2 rounds of that fight clearly, and if you were being very generous maybe 2 others. Floyd won 8-10 rounds and Pac had absolutely nothing to bother him. It was a schooling. No version of Pac beats Floyd. JMM in every fight showed how a good counterpuncher can give Pac fits, and Floyd was better than JMM.
It's hard to win rounds if u aren't landing clean.. Mayweather had issues finding Manny consistently it was nothing dominant with that performance
His daddy felt he fought scared and Roger said Floyd ain't do shyt and need a rematch for legacy...stop this schooling talk
As we all know both fighters struggled to find their targets in a competitive chess match... Even older and shopworn Manny was able to cause Floyd problems unlike other fighters, he had Floyd on his bicycle early rounds and old Floyd couldn't dance those middle rounds due to the pressure, and Manny was able to force a fight in the middle of the ring and neutralize Floyd jab like he did Oscar...Floyd adjusted putting his jab in the holster and hooking turning and holding Manny until he lost his focus, and that's all she wrote ....
But how would that fight played out of that was the Manny from the Oscar match. I just rewatched that fight YouTube binging today and was like that Manny was a bad mutha****a the offense, the feints, the defense taking away Oscar jab and noticing when Oscar feet is planted he doesn't throw shots, I'm not sure if any welter beating that Manny even floyd
I feel the same way about Floyd canelo, Floyd was huge at home and probably a jmw then he was hitting moving and hurting the shyt outta canelo consistently...til this day Floyd buzzed him most, and resorted to fouling at times to buy time as he was on his way to getting dropped a few times...if boxing was Dragonball z Floyd was perfect cell playing with his food, playing with a young atg who had hof bodies under his belt already, beating him toying with a smile.
Both fights those guys were completely locked in who wins if those two guys from those two nights duked it out, discuss....
Think of it this way. If you could count all the rounds Manny/Floyd won and lost over their career. Who won more rounds?. That’s easy, Mayweather.
bootybagz wanna talk about CW from manny, but look at floyd... catchweight against marquez but came in over the limit... catchweight against canelo but wanted the fight at 147, then 150, 151 then 152 and demanded canelo to keep his mouth shut! LOL.
Canelo has more catchweight fights than Pacquiao and mayweather combined.
Actual fact
Pacquaios foot work the first three rounds tired Floyd out and he had to sit down and hold for the next 3 rounds and fight and in the middle of the ring....these guys were always my favorite fighters growing up I never thought they would fight so biased is out the window here...Floyd ain't neutralize shyt he could barely land clean because Manny had him halfway on his bicycle, and holding in the middle of the ring where floyd wasn't comfortable with a guy that could counter him clean with shots he don't see...he was able to see mosley shots but in the middle of the ring vs Manny he had fear there...high level chess match pay attention
Well you’re obviously not neutral, because Pac won 2 rounds of that fight clearly, and if you were being very generous maybe 2 others. Floyd won 8-10 rounds and Pac had absolutely nothing to bother him. It was a schooling. No version of Pac beats Floyd. JMM in every fight showed how a good counterpuncher can give Pac fits, and Floyd was better than JMM.
Which of these Pac opps would give PBF/May any trouble ....(leaving off common opps and in no particular order)
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Morales 3x
Marco 2x (lmao)
Rios
Lucas
Almost Bumlevel
Shot to shlt Margarito*
Algieri*
Ugas
Horn
Sometime
Vargas
Timmy 3x (lmao)
Clottey
18 fights
Pac has 3 L's (2 by robbery :lol1: )
I can't see PBF/May losing to any of the above :haha:
However......
Pac would lose to -
Nelo
DLH WW+
Cotto WW+
Maidana (Maidana was 10x the fighter Horn was :lol1: )
JLC
bootybagz wanna talk about CW from manny, but look at floyd... catchweight against marquez but came in over the limit... catchweight against canelo but wanted the fight at 147, then 150, 151 then 152 and demanded canelo to keep his mouth shut! LOL.
Floyd said to Canelo, I want to jerk you around, but let's keep this between me and you
Manny's all frauds. CW king, champion of weight divisions he never held a belt under, gifted decisions until KOd, dude's a ****. Sorry yer asian and asian can't fight for ****, but manny isn't actually in Floyd's league and that **** is proven.
Now go cry about a shoulder or some *** **** like that you chinnies do.
wahhh wahhh manny suck wahhh.. ok? LOL!!!
bootybagz wanna talk about CW from manny, but look at floyd... catchweight against marquez but came in over the limit... catchweight against canelo but wanted the fight at 147, then 150, 151 then 152 and demanded canelo to keep his mouth shut! LOL.
He got no credit from me for cherrypicking Marquez
Of course they would look like hypocrites if it got out that they wanted to drain Alvarez down to 147.
bootybagz wanna talk about CW from manny, but look at floyd... catchweight against marquez but came in over the limit... catchweight against canelo but wanted the fight at 147, then 150, 151 then 152 and demanded canelo to keep his mouth shut! LOL.
"I wouldn't do that. But when the (fight) negotiations started, they wanted me to go to 147. I said that's physically impossible. I couldn't do it. Then they inched up to 150. I said I can't do it, that's impossible. Those days are over. I can't make that weight anymore, I've grown.
"Then they went up to 151. And then finally, so we could make the fight, I said, 'If anything, I'll give up two pounds. I'll go up to 152. I agreed to that. Then they tried to force me to be quiet and not to mention anything that they came up with the weight of 152. And that's why ... I haven't said anything until now.
dizzzammm!!! shady as hell!!! at least pac never tried to force his opponents to keep quiet... LOL!!! everything was upfront with pac, take it or leave it... no shady bizness like the TMT boyz.
Of course they would look like hypocrites if it got out that they wanted to drain Alvarez down to 147.
The Marquez situation was far worse imo
If Floyd had fought an unheard of Australian guy whose best win was 100 year-old Randall Bailey, he would have been crucified 100x worse than he was for fighting Andre Berto.
Nothing was worse than Andre Berto