Victor Conte Is associated with VADA!!Ryan was tested weekly for months leading up to the fight and tested negative yet he conveniently test positive right before the fight????

He also fooled everyone about his prep and mental state for the fight. The guy clearly knows how to deceive people. He is a liar and a cheat. I still think he is mental though, post-fight he's been like a crazy guy trying to convince you he's sane :lol1:

Exactly they’re just a drug testing company :lol1: Not the Federal Law like when they had Frank Abagnale working for them, whilst he was serving time no less. It’s the same premise. Don't see the issue, Conte did what he did, from his words is reformed and learned from his mistakes and is now helping them with his expertise. There aren’t many people with better knowledge of that field than him. If your business is a clean sport, having the name Conte next to your organisation is :skull::skull: Even on his part, what is he doing? He's still just trying to squeeze money out of sports he abused. This man shouldn't be given a platform, or be allowed near sportspeople or testing bodies frankly. But then it's boxing, sadly a gutter sport in terms of some of the individuals involved outside the ring.

He's a criminal and they're not the FBI. If you want to maintain your reputation in sports, even if it's on the up, you stay away from this guy. Same for supposedly clean fighters like Ward when he associated with Conte and Malignaggi with Heredia. It's just terrible optics, raises questions-marks and is all round bad business. Exactly they’re just a drug testing company :lol1: Not the Federal Law like when they had Frank Abagnale working for them, whilst he was serving time no less. It’s the same premise. Don’t see the issue, Conte did what he did, from his words is reformed and learned from his mistakes and is now helping them with his expertise. There aren’t many people with better knowledge of that field than him.

Because he’s an expert when it comes to PED’s. It’s the same as Frank Abagnale working for the FBI in the fraud department. No one knows that field better than the people who actually were involved in it. He's a criminal and they're not the FBI. If you want to maintain your reputation in sports, even if it's on the up, you stay away from this guy. Same for supposedly clean fighters like Ward when he associated with Conte and Malignaggi with Heredia. It's just terrible optics, raises questions-marks and is all round bad business.

you could argue the motivations but the ref did not count 2 different knockdowns, that makes a huge difference in the fight outcome. he also did nothing about the excessive holding. Ryan is a cheat, but so was the Ref. Terrible job!

Seeing his video explanation on social media, Garcia doesn't come off as someone who knowingly took PEDs. He also fooled everyone about his prep and mental state for the fight. The guy clearly knows how to deceive people. He is a liar and a cheat.

- - tbe tba tue ever, backdated 2 weeks by vegas plus an altered official scorecard for the most illicit win ever...thanks vegas commish... ok thx

Lol the same posters still bringing up iv floyd, are making excuses for this, pathetic - - TBE TBA TUE ever, backdated 2 weeks by Vegas plus an altered official scorecard for the most illicit win ever...Thanks Vegas Commish...

Way too obvious

My wife took pregnancy test after pregnancy test. They all came back negative. Then suddenly came a positive! Looks setup like a mfer. So no way it counts. Game. Set. Match. Great post Bat.

They also found Ryan to be an easy target if you wanted to set him up given his behavior before the fight set him up for what??? he's not an elite... he loss to tank. why would anyone wanna put a target on this kid? LOL... cheaters flock together i see...

Lol the same posters still bringing up iv floyd, are making excuses for this, pathetic

Ask Harvey dock that or the corrupt judge ryan cheated, that's all.. deal with it... ryan himself said he came in over the weight limit on purpose to give him an advantage!!! LOL!!!!

you could argue the motivations but the ref did not count 2 different knockdowns, that makes a huge difference in the fight outcome. he also did nothing about the excessive holding. im not here to talk about the judge... ryan cheated, that's all... he admitted that he came in over the weight limit on purpose to give him an advantage!! so after hearing that, it's not hard to believe he ped up to give him an advantage!! i mean, he said it himself.

why the hell would anyone try to save haney??? haney is a nobody. same with ryan. ya saying mofos jealous of ryan, etc.. ryan is a nobody so why would anyone wanna frame ryan for? he tested positive, deal with it!! it's not hard to believe he juiced up... he willingly admit that he came in over weight on purpose to give him an advantage!! so after hearing that from ryan himself, it's not hard to believe that he was on peds. Ask Harvey dock that or the corrupt judge

this is possible or its possible its contamination. osterine is a very weak anabolic sarm. its cycled, so he should not test for it directly right on fight night. it also is used to maintain muscle mass while cutting fat, its a weak anabolic that wont make you gain mass or hold excess water which would be beneficial for a boxer making weight. Its also very possible its in random supplements as an unlisted ingredient or if you wanted to sabotage a fighter you could easily put it in their food or drink, since its taken orally and can be bought online in liquid, powder or capsule form. this **** is why i think PED testing should be just stopped. Haney cuts like 25 pounds himself, you think he doesnt use every method available, hes already at the record levels for highest weight cuts. They also found Ryan to be an easy target if you wanted to set him up given his behavior before the fight

why the hell would anyone try to save haney??? haney is a nobody. same with ryan. ya saying mofos jealous of ryan, etc.. ryan is a nobody so why would anyone wanna frame ryan for? he tested positive, deal with it!! it's not hard to believe he juiced up... he willingly admit that he came in over weight on purpose to give him an advantage!! so after hearing that from ryan himself, it's not hard to believe that he was on peds. you could argue the motivations but the ref did not count 2 different knockdowns, that makes a huge difference in the fight outcome. he also did nothing about the excessive holding.

If he tested negative for weeks, and only tested positive the day before the fight and after, it sounds like he was using PED’s for weight cutting rather than any actual extra strength or power. Sounds like he or his team got desperate, tried to get help quickly to make weight, used that PED to help and maybe even tried to mask it with another PED. He may have just been cheating to make weight, not gain any EXTRA advantages. But we will see when more info comes out. this is possible or its possible its contamination. osterine is a very weak anabolic sarm. its cycled, so he should not test for it directly right on fight night. it also is used to maintain muscle mass while cutting fat, its a weak anabolic that wont make you gain mass or hold excess water which would be beneficial for a boxer making weight. Its also very possible its in random supplements as an unlisted ingredient or if you wanted to sabotage a fighter you could easily put it in their food or drink, since its taken orally and can be bought online in liquid, powder or capsule form. this shit is why i think PED testing should be just stopped. Haney cuts like 25 pounds himself, you think he doesnt use every method available, hes already at the record levels for highest weight cuts.

Spoken like a true pro black fan thanks for proving my point. the black racist corrupt ref and judge couldn't save Haney so they turned to Conte to save their weak ass record. why the hell would anyone try to save haney??? haney is a nobody. same with ryan. ya saying mofos jealous of ryan, etc.. ryan is a nobody so why would anyone wanna frame ryan for? he tested positive, deal with it!! it's not hard to believe he juiced up... he willingly admit that he came in over weight on purpose to give him an advantage!! so after hearing that from ryan himself, it's not hard to believe that he was on peds.

Out of interest, why would VADA associate with Conte? Not saying anything went on, but of all people on the planet for a drug testing company not to associate with, he'd be in the Top 1. Because he’s an expert when it comes to PED’s. It’s the same as Frank Abagnale working for the FBI in the fraud department. No one knows that field better than the people who actually were involved in it.