I said he was flabby last night and very filled in, but I forgot he looked this bad vs Tank. It makes sense 136lbs +rehydration clause. I'm not sure if Ryan Garcia would ever beat Tank even at 147 but it would be an interesting match at 147 with no clause. Another part of me is like, if you have to outweigh your opponent by 15-20lbs+ to beat him, that's nothing to cheer for. There's weight classes for a reason, and finding a way to circumvent this by just making weight on the scales and then going up 20-30lbs, that imo, is a form of cheating.
That's why I couldn't care less about Ryan Garcia weighing 143 on the scale and who knows how much on fight night, probably 170+. Because Haney does it too. So we just technically saw two Super Middleweights-Light Heavyweights in the ring last night.
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Ryan Garcia should have been randomly VADA drug tested prior to the Haney fight. Chances are he was probably juiced to the gills that night. That is the one area where Eddie Hearn as Devin Haney’s promoter dropped the ball.
In all fairness, it looked like Haney was fighting a JMW in there. Garcia was always lean and borderline scrawny looking kind of like Diego Corrales but against Haney, he came in thick as fuk. He looked unusually big that night.
Garcia was probably just slightly bigger. He’s just taller so he looked way bigger. He may have been around 172-175lbs to Haney’s 166-168lbs. Not that much of a difference.
This might have been Haney’s first fight against someone around his size in the ring.
In all fairness, it looked like Haney was fighting a JMW in there. Garcia was always lean and borderline scrawny looking kind of like Diego Corrales but against Haney, he came in thick as fuk. He looked unusually big that night.
It may help but not necessarily.
Nothing about how the fight played out leads me to believe the result would have been different in a weigh in whatever fight between the two.
You dont think punch resistance is affected by being drained? Especially to the body? news flash it is. The problem with your position is that its impossible to prove, that is why its pointless. All we know is that Ryan was handicapped and the win was stained.
I said he was flabby last night and very filled in, but I forgot he looked this bad vs Tank. It makes sense 136lbs +rehydration clause. I'm not sure if Ryan Garcia would ever beat Tank even at 147 but it would be an interesting match at 147 with no clause. Another part of me is like, if you have to outweigh your opponent by 15-20lbs+ to beat him, that's nothing to cheer for. There's weight classes for a reason, and finding a way to circumvent this by just making weight on the scales and then going up 20-30lbs, that imo, is a form of cheating.
That's why I couldn't care less about Ryan Garcia weighing 143 on the scale and who knows how much on fight night, probably 170+. Because Haney does it too. So we just technically saw two Super Middleweights-Light Heavyweights in the ring last night.
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Reminds me how Nelo looked against Floyd.
Ryan didn't seem to fight better than usual, its a case of Haney fighting more offensively than usual against the wrong opponent with speed, power, and who is his own size for once.
Speaking of Tank though, who is this Martin guy he's fighting? I have never seen him, he has a good record but it’s against fighters who haven't beaten anyone who is any good.
That’s why he’s nicknamed The Ghost
lmao
All I'm saying is even if Ryan missed weight and rehydrated to 170 the outcome likely would have been the same. He still tries to get aggressive early on the manlet, gets caught hard walking in and goes down.
I’ll agree to disagree
Just not how I see it and if that was the case , the Haney fight would of been different
Haney would get the W
I mean, we have a uniform standard that works just fine, weight class limits which have to be made a day before the fight and the rules state nothing about packing on a couple dozen lbs after you step off the scale. Some of these guys though, come up with these contracts with all kinds of stips leveraging their position in boxing then we have people questioning the credibility of wins. It doesn't help boxing operate more like a real sport unless everything regarding rules is standard for everyone.
Hence Tank ripping Ryan a new azzhole with draining him and then incorporating a rehydration clause
For the record, I'm not a big fan of weight stips or catch weights. All fights should be at designated weight limits and if you make the official weight what you come in after is well within the rules and fair game so "weight bullies" are not a thing as far as I am concerned.
All good
I just have a hard time believing any fughin human can rehydrate 26 pounds in one night
Just one of many examples of yeah he made weight
I guarantee you that Ryan would of rehydrated the usual 12 to 18 without the rehyprotection Davis instilled
Is that what you mean ?
No, it does not appear it did.
It seemed like a security measure Tank wanted just in case but didn't play a factor since Garcia did try and impose himself physically but it backfired.
Ok
So the answer is YES
Wow all that back and forth for a simple fughin YES
Life goes on brother just ask Regis , Loma etc etc
Because it might help him not fighting a guy who outweighed him significantly.
So then it did have a negative physical effect that affected Ry’s performance.
If you say it helped Tank that is.
Because it might help him not fighting a guy who outweighed him significantly.
Might help? The point is it DOES help, that's why fighters demand it. How much exactly is impossible to say but it was a handicap which tainted his win. That is why handicapping sucks.
I had to double check before posting the thread and yes Ry is that skinny in every photo of the Tank fight.
I’ll repeat ; unless those photos are retouched , not hard to see
The implication that it impacted the fight in any meaningful way, it didn't.
So if a rehydration clause did not impact the fight why did tank want one?
The implication that it impacted the fight in any meaningful way, it didn't.
But if it didn’t affect Ry, then why fight Mario Barrios at 140lbs with no weight stipulations and rehydration clause? Why do it for Ryan Garcia and not for Mario Barrios?
Yes , Tank is better in all ways than Garcia hence there should of been no reason to bring Crack Head Garcia to the ring
If you a fan of the sport , can’t deny it from the photos I’ve seen unless they were shopped
I had to double check before posting the thread and yes Ry is that skinny in every photo of the Tank fight.
No, they came to an agreement.
How much did Ryan weigh in the ring? do you know for certain? He looked pretty well energized until he got dropped after being overly aggressive then just quit because he knew Tank was leagues above him.
Yes , Tank is better in all ways than Garcia hence there should of been no reason to bring Crack Head Garcia to the ring
If you a fan of the sport , can’t deny it from the photos I’ve seen unless they were shopped
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