Where did Deontay Wilder style and boxing skills go ?

Deontay Wilder has boxing skills, but? They are in and around European level at the highest. Wilder is not a Elite or World level fighter skill for skill, in terms of his pure boxing skills 'But he was a Elite level fighter, in other area's. Wilder had elite level power, determination, resolve and Wilder at his peak did have a solid enough Jab'. Note: Overall much of what Wilder has lacked, he has been able to negate with his power 'I believe Wilder would of struggled to negate this skills gap, that he has if he was competing in past era's'. Deontay Wilder is a great fighter within this era of Heavyweights, but he is the type of fighter 'That relied heavily on his punching power'. If you look back in boxing history, most of the great heavyweight power punchers, did not just relie on their power 'Even if they did not blast out their opponents with one punch, they still had the ability to beat guys up'. That is the difference between Deontay Wilder and Mike Tyson 'If Wilder struggled to deck, or hurt you really badly with a single punch. Wilder really at Elite and World level, had no choice to then get out boxed for the rest of the fight, until he was able to hurt his opponents'. Wilder to his credit, has been competitive at Elite and World level with those tactics, but only because this era of Heavyweights compared to past era's 'Are way below par in my opinion' etc. [

Stiverne was the perfect opponent for wilders "boxing" to look good against. A slow, flat footed plodder, who was old and fat, could barely move and was short with slow hands. Wilder is 6'7" with good reach and at that point he wasn't slow on his feet so it was a physical mismatch Wilder could just run around and play keep away and Stiverne couldn't do anything about it. When Wilder tried boxing vs Szpilka and Washington who have mid skills at best, he was found sorely lacking and his power had to bail him out. He put everything into landing the right hand which was probably the best approach for him if we are being honest. ...This!

hall of fame? why would he get in the hall? he literally has 2 top 10 wins his entire career and they arent super impressive wins to be honest Well, he will get in because his accomlishments have earned him a place there. Accomplishments that you are willfully unaware of. The Hall is the center of Boxing, and cannot conform to the misgivings of every casual fan of our sport who roots for his favorites and uplifts them by disparaging his competition. We hear the kind of talk that is prevalent on this board, this thread, about fighters all the time. It injects nothing of value into the knowledge base.

In his first fight against Stiverrne he had a totally different style than he had the rest of his career when was boxing on the backfoot and moving was an outside boxer and had defensive skills what happened? He only had skills vs. over raked guys, the inactive or the old. Now his power has always been an asset, but outside of that he never fooled me. It is amazing the career he has had, thanks to the promoters and his manager who rode a bronze medal in the Olympics and the punch drunk American fans ( a sizable percent of his fans ) starving for a top fighter in the heavyweight ranks.. In heavyweight boxing a big puncher usually wins vs. the shorter, non top 10 ranked, non - punching types who KO 0% of their say top 20 " box rec " opponents.​

That was actually Wilder`s best fight ever. The only fight where he actually out boxed somebody. If he fought more guys like Chisora and less bums like Washington and Szpilka in his life, he would have improved his skills, very likely. Chisora would have been a very bad style for him because Chisora actually moves his head and is a decent inside fighter. Wilder hates pressure and has pretty bad punch resistance so I wouldn't have been shocked to see the Chisora of a few years ago knock him the fuck out. Wilder is better against feather fisted guys with limited offence who he has 12 full rounds to get his right hand off on. ​​​​​​

That was actually Wilder`s best fight ever. The only fight where he actually out boxed somebody. If he fought more guys like Chisora and less bums like Washington and Szpilka in his life, he would have improved his skills, very likely.

Stiverne was the perfect opponent for wilders "boxing" to look good against. A slow, flat footed plodder, who was old and fat, could barely move and was short with slow hands. Wilder is 6'7" with good reach and at that point he wasn't slow on his feet so it was a physical mismatch Wilder could just run around and play keep away and Stiverne couldn't do anything about it. When Wilder tried boxing vs Szpilka and Washington who have mid skills at best, he was found sorely lacking and his power had to bail him out. He put everything into landing the right hand which was probably the best approach for him if we are being honest.

He had one fight where he stuck to a game plan, circled and jabbed all night This is the answer. On his way up, they fed him pathetic F-level guys that barely qualified as professional boxers instead of getting him rounds and experience. Wilder was hungry, but they brought him along half-assedly and they ended up with a half-assed fighter. Wilder's power bailed him out until it didn't. Now he's left with nothin'

OP, ignore the AJ stans in here. Mark Breland was the best trainer Wilder ever had, the longer he worked with him, the more skills he showed. You're right, he had a gameplan and worked on that jab while he was with Breland, but started to buck back and ended up firing him. It's like what happened with Mike Tyson when he fired Rooney and regressed from then on.

u try getting hit with egg weights to the side of the head that results in a dint in that head that shows up on an actual autopsy, u wont be the same guy after that

hall of fame? why would he get in the hall? he literally has 2 top 10 wins his entire career and they arent super impressive wins to be honest I don’t like him but he’s definitely a hall of famer

If you don't need it, why get it? His skills are there, but not what took him all the way to the Hall of Fame. hall of fame? why would he get in the hall? he literally has 2 top 10 wins his entire career and they arent super impressive wins to be honest

If you don't need it, why get it? His skills are there, but not what took him all the way to the Hall of Fame.

he never had it to begin with... he was banking on his power before and that got him this far.. he was never a boxer/fighter, he was just catching mofos with power shot and putting them out... the 1st fury fight showed us this. catching bums and old men more like it. he fought 2 prime guys and was schooled badly

he never had it to begin with... he was banking on his power before and that got him this far.. he was never a boxer/fighter, he was just catching mofos with power shot and putting them out... the 1st fury fight showed us this.

but you just said he lost his skills because of fury? I really didn’t. I answered the question. How about this. What little skill Wilder had, Fury beat out of him.

I have never thought Wilder had any real skills in the ring. All he has is power and reach. but you just said he lost his skills because of fury?

He took a lot of damage in the 5 fights with Fury and Ortiz, plus he's old. He doesn't have the freak athleticism anymore which has made him gunshy.

Hes 38, barely fights and took serious physical (and probably psychological) damage in Fury 2 and 3.

He never had none to start with….getting outboxed by spilka and Washington should tell you all you need to know about style and skill lol