Why is Tszyu vs Thurman at a catchweight of 155?

I just can’t see him getting passed the 8th round Hoping it’s a good fight how long it lasts My friend, we already know the result! :boxing:

Yep. Jermell Charlo vs Tim Tzsyu didn't materialize. And it appears that fight will never happen at any time in the future, especially now that Charlo gave up all his belts and nobody knows whether he will move up or stay at 154. Like everyone else in this sport who choose to waste their prime years, they'll go back begging for fights in their 40s at less than 10% of what they used to make. It will be a pitiful sight. People complain a lot about a lot of things. As if legit fights with titles on the line and everything, fights that are supposed to be made without any issues are easy to make.

Any timeline you can come up with when and how these so-called personal issues are solved. Do they take months, years, decades? When do you expect Charlo to come back? When asked to show your age and youre embarrassed to say, you are well and truly underage which goes along with your posts. I have no idea when Charlo will fight again or if he ever will because I don't know whats going on with him, I hope he sorts it out he is a good fighter, same as his brother he got demons going on as well I hope they both box again.

Youre another one of them, fck me they are everywhere,,,, how old are you mate real question? Any timeline you can come up with when and how these so-called personal issues are solved. Do they take months, years, decades? When do you expect Charlo to come back?

Real question is where did you get these excuses about personal issues from? Youre another one of them, fck me they are everywhere,,,, how old are you mate real question?

What is the garbage Im selling, I think youre seeing things that's not there? Real question is where did you get these excuses about personal issues from?

Stop lying to yourself. Do so as much as you want, but not all people are stupid doe. Not all of them would buy this garbage you are selling. You are not neutral. You're making unsubstantial personal issues claims out of nothing... People make assessments based on facts. Things that happened earlier. Jermell Charlo prolonged his injury excuses even after Tzsyu took 2 stay-active fights, which he didn't have to, and which you didn't even appreciate. Charlo also lied about coming back to fight Tzsyu. Didn't happen. And now you're making crap up about something you have no knowledge of. What is the garbage Im selling, I think youre seeing things that's not there?

Thats why Im not making a judgement lol if anything I wish him well and hope he fights again, wake up you have no argument the only person throwing excuses around is you, I don't know whats going on with Charlo that's why I have no judgement one way or the other, you are the one dragging him over the coals when you have no clue, and I would bet money underneath it all you don't particularly like Charlo as a fighter which is where you are coming from, as far as Charlo goes Im totally neutral to his situation or status as a fighter, neutral. Stop lying to yourself. Do so as much as you want, but not all people are stupid doe. Not all of them would buy this garbage you are selling. You are not neutral. You're making unsubstantial personal issues claims out of nothing... People make assessments based on facts. Things that happened earlier. Jermell Charlo prolonged his injury excuses even after Tzsyu took 2 stay-active fights, which he didn't have to, and which you didn't even appreciate. Charlo also lied about coming back to fight Tzsyu. Didn't happen. And now you're making crap up about something you have no knowledge of.

Neither do you, yet you make all these silly excuses as if you live with him under the same roof. Give it up bro. You can't change perceptions, anyways. It's a losing argument. What you're saying is it's unsolvable and it has no ending. Give it up bro. You're looking foolish. Thats why Im not making a judgement lol if anything I wish him well and hope he fights again, wake up you have no argument the only person throwing excuses around is you, I don't know whats going on with Charlo that's why I have no judgement one way or the other, you are the one dragging him over the coals when you have no clue, and I would bet money underneath it all you don't particularly like Charlo as a fighter which is where you are coming from, as far as Charlo goes Im totally neutral to his situation or status as a fighter, neutral.

You don't even know if he is staying home, you cannot make a judgement on a fighters personal life if you don't know exactly whats going on with them, you seem to think life is this big happy place, brother it can get so bad the best of mankind can be brought to their knees. As I said they live first and fight second, excuse don't come in it that's just fan BS. Neither do you, yet you make all these silly excuses as if you live with him under the same roof. Give it up bro. You can't change perceptions, anyways. It's a losing argument. What you're saying is it's unsolvable and it has no ending. Give it up bro. You're looking foolish.

You can't solve personal issues by staying at home 24/7 bro. It will only get worse. You keep yourself busy. Ask Tyson Fury. You don't even know if he is staying home, you cannot make a judgement on a fighters personal life if you don't know exactly whats going on with them, you seem to think life is this big happy place, brother it can get so bad the best of mankind can be brought to their knees. As I said they live first and fight second, excuse don't come in it that's just fan BS.

Solve what issues, you have no idea what the private life is doing, you got some growing to do kid because you have no understanding of what life can do to you, fck I cant believe the attitude its just so naïve to life, as I said the other day, why do celebrities that have everything hang themselves of a door knob, its all about pressures stardom brings and how one can handle them, these high rolling people are surrounded by treacherous snakes, plastic back slappers, liars and deviates, the only straight shooting going on is what can they suck out of you, when you are a light they come around like moths, if they not strong minded and careful it can swoop them up and destroy anything that was good, some of them get eaten up by it all and tap themselves,,,, you have so much to learn about life. You can't solve personal issues by staying at home 24/7 bro. It will only get worse. You keep yourself busy. Ask Tyson Fury.

Personal life excuses mean nothing to me. They're nothing more than made up excuses. Explain to me why staying at home 24/7/365 would solve such issues. What exactly is he doing at this moment, stare at his wife, wash dishes, play video games, sit on his couch watching Tzsyu/Thurman press con... Solve what issues, you have no idea what the private life is doing, you got some growing to do kid because you have no understanding of what life can do to you, fck I cant believe the attitude its just so naïve to life, as I said the other day, why do celebrities that have everything hang themselves of a door knob, its all about pressures stardom brings and how one can handle them, these high rolling people are surrounded by treacherous snakes, plastic back slappers, liars and deviates, the only straight shooting going on is what can they suck out of you, when you are a light they come around like moths, if they not strong minded and careful it can swoop them up and destroy anything that was good, some of them get eaten up by it all and tap themselves,,,, you have so much to learn about life.

Mate his personal life is by all probability falling apart, nobody plans their prime sitting on the couch playing video games, life derails their career, these fighters are not wind up toys, they live first and fight second. Personal life excuses mean nothing to me. They're nothing more than made up excuses. Explain to me why staying at home 24/7/365 would solve such issues. What exactly is he doing at this moment, stare at his wife, wash dishes, play video games, sit on his couch watching Tzsyu/Thurman press con...

Yep. Jermell Charlo vs Tim Tzsyu didn't materialize. And it appears that fight will never happen at any time in the future, especially now that Charlo gave up all his belts and nobody knows whether he will move up or stay at 154. Like everyone else in this sport who choose to waste their prime years, they'll go back begging for fights in their 40s at less than 10% of what they used to make. It will be a pitiful sight. Mate his personal life is by all probability falling apart, nobody plans their prime sitting on the couch playing video games, life derails their career, these fighters are not wind up toys, they live first and fight second.

I don't really care about titles, if you ask me. If fighters agree to fight each other, that's all that matters to me. It's bad enough to see fighters on the same platform, same division, same platform, same street, etc. not to fight each other. Spence vs Thurman, for example. Didn't happen. Ennis vs Thurman didn't happen. Ennis vs Stanionis didn't happen, etc. Yep. Jermell Charlo vs Tim Tzsyu didn't materialize. And it appears that fight will never happen at any time in the future, especially now that Charlo gave up all his belts and nobody knows whether he will move up or stay at 154. Like everyone else in this sport who choose to waste their prime years, they'll go back begging for fights in their 40s at less than 10% of what they used to make. It will be a pitiful sight.

Mula, I have been in Clearwater where Keith is currently training. I think he has been hurting himself by cutting to 47. I agree a tuneup would’ve been ideal, but I’ve watch a few days of sparring with active fighters, and he has been laying it down. I think he has benefited from the time off. Everyone wants to hate, but I know him as a friend, he needed it. Another thing people don’t realize, bc it wasn’t in the media, is that he has had 3 surgeries and they’ve been pretty rough. All we can hope for is a great fight, which I believe we are in store for! :boxing: I just can’t see him getting passed the 8th round Hoping it’s a good fight how long it lasts

Lotsa fights between top guys without a belt are still 12rds. The belt issue doesn't really make sense to me for the weight the more I think about it tho. Ok it’s not for Tszyu's belt. But why 155 instead of 154? The belt group has also said if Tszyu loses they'll strip the belt from him anyway at 155 so idk why they wouldn't just fight at 154. Weird to me, but maybe some logic I'm missing. I read that he wouldn’t lose his belt win or lose but that he would have a certain time to face his mando That was my understanding

Why would he need to forfeit the belt if it was 154? What belt group rule is that? I've seen others suggest that, but never heard that as a legit belt group rule. Thurman isn't ranked in the top 15. He isn't ranked at all. You can't be the champ and fight a guy who isn't in the top 15 - for tuneup-level optional defenses, they usually pick some weirdo ranked 12 or 14 or whatever, but they can't pick just anybody. There's some leeway when a guy is moving up - if a guys got a high ranking and moves up and the champ wants to fight him, the Orgs will just toss him somewhere in the top 15. Problem is, Thurman was removed from the 147 rankings entirely when he didn't move forward with the Ugas fight. He isn't ranked at all at the moment. So Tszyu would have to give up his belt to fight Thurman, unless he fights him outside of the weight class where he's champion.

I don't really care about titles, if you ask me. If fighters agree to fight each other, that's all that matters to me. It's bad enough to see fighters on the same platform, same division, same platform, same street, etc. not to fight each other. Spence vs Thurman, for example. Didn't happen. Ennis vs Thurman didn't happen. Ennis vs Stanionis didn't happen, etc.