Go straight to the facts.
People say, he is a master boxer with a great chin and a good defense.
That just can`t be true, because we all have witnessed Callum Johnson dropping him and we all have seen Beterbiev`s face after Browne fight.
Beterbiev is always in some bloody wars. But all these fights have something in common. All guys he has fought were statue targets and they all wanted to take him out at some point.
I don`t care if he is a friendly family man, I can just comment what I see in the ring.
I see the guy fighting statue targets and punchers with zero defense.
he has a great chance to prove me wrong on 1.6. I can`t wait. because in that fight I will see what he really is.
Again, I have nothing against Beterbiev as a person and I have nothing in Bivol`s favor as a person. If Beterbiev can win, well, I salute to him.
Ok, but Beterbiev never faced a mover like Bivol.
We only know Beterbiev can land on slow statues.
There seems to be some confusion between Bivol and Usyk (amateurs) as far as movement. Bivol has a wide stance and stands right in front of you. He doesn't angle like Usyk nor does he move fluently like young Erislandy Lara.
A good comparison b.c Canelo high guards a bit like Beterbiev and Beterbiev is mixing in shoe-shine punches with his power shots. He also keeps his lead foot pointed at you which allows him to maximize cutting the ring off or always face you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfdbNFn8rqo
Count each single clubbing punch Canelo lands and multiple times 3-5 because Beterbiev would be putting punches together when Bivol takes a break. Bivol will not be in perpetual motion the whole fight. That is unrealistic. There are points Canelo is throwing a double uppercut and a shot to the plexes before Bivol moves off of the ropes
The thing Bivol rips combos like Amir Khan but controlled and he knows when to get in and out but a very, very hittable.
Stylistically he isn't going to just go in and there and box circles around Beterbiev.
One needs to come in for his combos while the other guy's lead foot always keeps him in front of you. That's not a match-up where one guy just boxes to a 10-2 round victory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmW2bSA64B4
Browne is a better comparison because Bivol is going to move away early and try to stay out of range vs fight Beterbiev up front like Yarde and Gvoz. Browne may not be a better boxer than Bivol but he is more athletic in terms of movement.
Overrated meaning 90% guys here expect him to knock Bivol´s head off.
I just don´t see it that way. I haven˙t seen anything from Beterbiev which would make me believe he wins this by a KO.
Beterbiev needs his best fight ever to win this.
It's going to be a damn good fight, that's all I can say. Either Bivol puts on a masterclass boxing lesson or Beterbiev KO'es him. I'm picking Bivol to outbox Beterbiev in a close fight.
Overrated? Eh, if you want overrated right now, look no further than Ryan Garcia. Only thing I can say about Beterbiev is that he can get reckless sometimes.
Overrated meaning 90% guys here expect him to knock Bivol´s head off.
I just don´t see it that way. I haven˙t seen anything from Beterbiev which would make me believe he wins this by a KO.
Beterbiev needs his best fight ever to win this.
I think Canelo who is flat footed was able to literally telegraph punches from outside the venue and hit Bivol
I think Joe Smith is literally a caveman almost clipped Bivol
i think Beterbiev is going to touch him and even more as they move to the 2nd half of the fight. It's obvious at this point he mixes in his power punches with shoe shining so almost impossible gauge what his cadence.
Ok, but Beterbiev never faced a mover like Bivol.
We only know Beterbiev can land on slow statues.
Overrated? Eh, if you want overrated right now, look no further than Ryan Garcia. Only thing I can say about Beterbiev is that he can get reckless sometimes.
I think Beterbiev has many things to over come here, as I said. I think Bivol beats him. I think Bivol will be too fast.
But if Beterbiev can win by a KO, I am fine with that scenario also. That would mean he is much better than I thought.
I think Canelo who is flat footed was able to literally telegraph punches from outside the venue and hit Bivol
I think Joe Smith is literally a caveman almost clipped Bivol
i think Beterbiev is going to touch him and even more as they move to the 2nd half of the fight. It's obvious at this point he mixes in his power punches with shoe shining so almost impossible gauge what his cadence.
Boxing is about hitting and not get hit. Beterbiev gets hit too much. And he is slow.
Again, nothing personal, but I don`t believe he beats much younger guy with elite distance contorl.
He is old. And he has a trading type of style that is not ideal for defense. In his case he is strong as a bull with a chin or iron Offensively he has gotten better with timing and accuracy with age. But he is not as quick as he was when he was 25, 30, or even 35!
This fighter with elite distance control better have a grade A chin, good mobile feet, and a gas tank the never run dry to win. AB forces his man to confront his physicality.
Boxing may notionally be about hitting and not getting hit, but what boxer (at the elite level) ever actually hits without getting hit? None. Some great fighters make a career taking two punches to give one. Boxing is about skill, but its also about toughness, physical strength, mental fortitude, strategy...
Just about every boxer I've heard talk about fighting mentions knowing how to react to getting hit, because it's inevitable. Even the elusive Floyd Mayweather, JR got tagged sometimes.
Boxing is about hitting and not get hit. Beterbiev gets hit too much. And he is slow.
Again, nothing personal, but I don`t believe he beats much younger guy with elite distance contorl.
Boxing may notionally be about hitting and not getting hit, but what boxer (at the elite level) ever actually hits without getting hit? None. Some great fighters make a career taking two punches to give one. Boxing is about skill, but its also about toughness, physical strength, mental fortitude, strategy...
Hey Jakey Boy funny thing occurred the other day
I came across one of your posts in 2021
Funny enough , there you were praising Beterbiev like he was the greatest thing since sliced bread
See the funny thing is when you post on a forum , the post will be there long after you have come and gone
But now you say he’s overrated lmfao
Told you I thought you were full of chit and YOUR post proves it
Bivol my balls
Any reason why you would post that Beterbiev is great but now he’s overrated
Hypocritical to say the least
More like full of chit if you ask me
War Beterbiev
I don't believe Bivol will stand in front of Artur and trade like Gvozdyk did. That was a mistake. It may be difficult for Beterbiev to land the kinds of body shots that he needs to in order to take Bivol's legs away. But I have seen Dmitri buzzed. If Artur catches him, it could mean trouble.
I think Beterbiev has many things to over come here, as I said. I think Bivol beats him. I think Bivol will be too fast.
But if Beterbiev can win by a KO, I am fine with that scenario also. That would mean he is much better than I thought.
I am looking forward to see if Beterbiev can knock out him the same way he did it with Gvozdyk.
If he can take Bivol`s legs away, he knocks him out.
I don't believe Bivol will stand in front of Artur and trade like Gvozdyk did. That was a mistake. It may be difficult for Beterbiev to land the kinds of body shots that he needs to in order to take Bivol's legs away. But I have seen Dmitri buzzed. If Artur catches him, it could mean trouble.
He has TKO wins over the current #4, #5, and #7 Ring LHW's.
That's more wins over top 10 ranked LHW's than any other LHW.
Therefore he's properly ranked at #1.
As far as the P4P list goes, him being #5, the thing with the P4P list is that after #3...historically, and just from my observation, you can rearrange #4-10 in whatever order you want and it really won't matter. Nobody would care if Bivol was #4. Look at Spence, his last fight was a really bad TKO loss, a shutout. But he's in front of Tank and Jesse Rodriguez. Tank's last 5 wins he went 5-0 with 4 KO's over Ryan Garcia, Hector Luis Garcia, Rolly Romero, Isaac Cruz, and Mario Barrios. Rodriguez last 5 fights he went 5-0 including wins over Sunny Edwards, Rungvisai, and Carlos Cuadras. But Spence is in front of them still. So it's weird. Canelo fought a 154lb fighter in his last fight, and didn't even KO him, but he's #4 P4P.
I'd say Beterbiev is properly rated though. He's earned his spot by having TKO wins over 3 current top 10 LHW's.
Go straight to the facts.
People say, he is a master boxer with a great chin and a good defense.
That just can`t be true, because we all have witnessed Callum Johnson dropping him and we all have seen Beterbiev`s face after Browne fight.
Beterbiev is always in some bloody wars. But all these fights have something in common. All guys he has fought were statue targets and they all wanted to take him out at some point.
I don`t care if he is a friendly family man, I can just comment what I see in the ring.
I see the guy fighting statue targets and punchers with zero defense.
he has a great chance to prove me wrong on 1.6. I can`t wait. because in that fight I will see what he really is.
Again, I have nothing against Beterbiev as a person and I have nothing in Bivol`s favor as a person. If Beterbiev can win, well, I salute to him.
Well since that division sucks. It’s just common sense to doubt Beterbiev or Bivol.
Touche', bro. No doubt, it will be a great fight, and a win for either man will be impressive. I just believe that Beterbiev is more than a boxer with a big punch. I believe that he is a skilled boxer with power. Of course, Bivol is a highly skilled boxer as well, with good pop, if not outright power.
I am looking forward to see if Beterbiev can knock out him the same way he did it with Gvozdyk.
If he can take Bivol`s legs away, he knocks him out.
Deontay did also
and the more skilled guy beat him twice or thrice
wilder had 2 kos over top 10 ring ranked opponents and that was the same guy who was 40. beterbiev has 6 including over the #1 guy. wilder was just hype, beterbiev is really good, if bivol beats him its because hes also really good.
Man, this is discussion.
If he can knock out Bivol...I will be impressed.
Again...easier said than done.
Touche', bro. No doubt, it will be a great fight, and a win for either man will be impressive. I just believe that Beterbiev is more than a boxer with a big punch. I believe that he is a skilled boxer with power. Of course, Bivol is a highly skilled boxer as well, with good pop, if not outright power.
Deontay did also
and the more skilled guy beat him twice or thrice
Well, we won`t compare Wilder the bum with Beterbiev.
Beterbiev beat many top 10 guys in his division.
Beterbiev is legit. Wilder is a f.ucking bum, lol.