Why do alot of people like to say all Black boxers like run too much ?

WillieWild114 and you're mentioning a very small amount of sports, most of which you don't dominate at all. NFL is a americann sport not worldwide, I don't even know what it is! You dominate a few events in Athletics, but not Athletics overall. You don't even seem to realise how many sports there are, there's loads! And blacks dominate hardly any when you look at the long list of sports there is. The whole year of 2023 in boxing you were taking L after L....... Wilder, Spence, Charlo, Andrade, Fulton, Haney*,Miller, Yarde, Okolie, Dubois, Makabu, Harrison, Ellis, Lubin*,Colbert,Hurd, Glanton, Franklin, Shaw, Essuman, Bentley, Ngannou etc You 100% DEFINITELY do not dominate boxing that's for sure haha ​ Tiger Woods' race = one-quarter Thai, one-quarter Chinese, one-quarter Caucasian, one-eighth African-American and one-eighth Native American​ so you were claiming a guy who is 1/8 black smh, say no more

majority of the best UFC athletes are Black majority of the Best Boxers are Black can’t ignore facts Hahahahahahahahahaha This is why you LDBC guys. Are so unlikeable. You always lie and exaggerate. It's a comedy it's that delusional! I don't follow UFC that much but I know that's complete bullshit. Whites clearly are much better in UFC than blacks what planet are you on And well Boxing is my specialist subject. You need to be in a mental health home if you really believe that LOL haha The top p4p guys right now are the likes of Usyk, Inoue, Beterbiev, Alvarez, Lomachenko, Fury, Lopez etc Usyk is p4p number 1 before him was Alvarez before him was Lomachenko, before him was Golovkin The best 2 heavyweights and current champs are Fury and Usyk. Whites are have dominated the division for like 25 years or something. Best Cruiserweight currently Tszyu. Etc Theres not one single black champ from super middle to heavyweight. And in all the lower weight diivsions. Like the only divisions you have any top fighters in is 135 to 147 Africa is the worst continent in the world at Boxing. Terrible at boxing. ​ So where is this 'black dominance' because as a hardcore boxing fan, I really cannot see it for the life of me LOL Like I said, you always do the 10-20% 'we dominate' lie Hope you enjoy the two biggest events of the year coming up for undisputed titles with zero black fighters involved... Beterbiev vs Bivol , and Usyk vs Fury :) keep searching for your Great Black Hopes to compete with these guys.

Same happens with Cuban Boxers... I think is a common misconception of what the word Boxing means, the more they box the more they get hate...

A lot of black boxers are too defensive for me. At least make it entertaining, don't actually back peddle a Whole fight. You can have movement and still bang. Mayweather was the best boxer I've ever witnessed but you knew it was going 12. I mean you could literally run errands and come back. I mean come on ..Manny came to bang. Marquez came to bang. Inoue comes to bang. David benavidez comes to bang. Black boxers get in there, get their "bag" and get the hell up outta there. Lol Crawford and tank likes to bang, so there's hope... :cool::cool: Name 5 today that are very defensive who names isn’t Haney & Shakur ?

A lot of black boxers are too defensive for me. At least make it entertaining, don't actually back peddle a Whole fight. You can have movement and still bang. Mayweather was the best boxer I've ever witnessed but you knew it was going 12. I mean you could literally run errands and come back. I mean come on ..Manny came to bang. Marquez came to bang. Inoue comes to bang. David benavidez comes to bang. Black boxers get in there, get their "bag" and get the hell up outta there. Lol Crawford and tank likes to bang, so there's hope... :cool::cool:

Every INDIVIDUAL is focused on boxing you fool! It's an individual sport, and a fighter is a fighter they either aint gonna do, or be as good at other sports Black Americans are poor at most sports, especially football(soccer) - you know that sport that is the most popular and the most well paid in the world!! It's just you black supremacist types like to lie and exaggerate and claim you 'dominate any sport where you have like 10% or 20% of the best athletes in lol. If you wanna talk that racial trolling nonsense then Ok I'll do it.. Black guy sport =Basketball - Last two winners of the basketball world cup Germany and Spain! Best two players in the NBA right now Nikola Jocic and Luka Doncic! South Africa = black country, all of South Africas heavyweight world champions ever in boxing were white, their greatest ever boxer is Brian Mitchell. And the tiny minority of whites in South Africa produced the best Rugby players so much in comparison to the overwhelming Black majority, that they had to come up with a rule/quota where they had to include 3 black players in the squad haha And by the way Tiger Woods isn't even black! ​ Are you some type of stupid ? Majority of the NBA is Black the best player in the NBA Giannis is Black. It’s still a good argument for Jokic. Luka is only a top 5 player in the NBA he has no ring. Majority of the best sprinters in the world from the 60,100,200,400 meter are almost entirely Black. majority of the NFL is Black Majority of the best long distance and marathon runners are Black. majority of the best UFC athletes are Black majority of the Best Boxers are Black can’t ignore facts

imo the next super great black fighter has yet to arrive! a Mayweather level boxer comes along every quarter century Gervonta is on his way

Boxers fight to win. Not to please you. Shakur will still get paid regardless of what you think. Thank you it’s sad people don’t understand boxers are not entertainers they’re main objective is to win the fight

Every INDIVIDUAL is focused on boxing you fool! It's an individual sport, and a fighter is a fighter they either aint gonna do, or be as good at other sports Black Americans are poor at most sports, especially football(soccer) - you know that sport that is the most popular and the most well paid in the world!! It's just you black supremacist types like to lie and exaggerate and claim you 'dominate any sport where you have like 10% or 20% of the best athletes in lol. If you wanna talk that racial trolling nonsense then Ok I'll do it.. Black guy sport =Basketball - Last two winners of the basketball world cup Germany and Spain! Best two players in the NBA right now Nikola Jocic and Luka Doncic! South Africa = black country, all of South Africas heavyweight world champions ever in boxing were white, their greatest ever boxer is Brian Mitchell. And the tiny minority of whites in South Africa produced the best Rugby players so much in comparison to the overwhelming Black majority, that they had to come up with a rule/quota where they had to include 3 black players in the squad haha And by the way Tiger Woods isn't even black! ​ What is Tiger woods ?

Hit without getting hit is what it’s about and only the slow, flat footed bums like to call black fighters runners.

Some black boxers try so desperately not to be hit even once like they have glass chins. But then you get your mercers, Oliver mcalls with chins of granite. Can't generalise

I'd go with Mexicans Mexicans are focused on boxing and have buncha gyms Black-Americans are good at too many different sports that are nowhere near as difficult as boxing white guy sport golf best player ever is a black guy ffs Every INDIVIDUAL is focused on boxing you fool! It's an individual sport, and a fighter is a fighter they either aint gonna do, or be as good at other sports Black Americans are poor at most sports, especially football(soccer) - you know that sport that is the most popular and the most well paid in the world!! It's just you black supremacist types like to lie and exaggerate and claim you 'dominate any sport where you have like 10% or 20% of the best athletes in lol. If you wanna talk that racial trolling nonsense then Ok I'll do it.. Black guy sport =Basketball - Last two winners of the basketball world cup Germany and Spain! Best two players in the NBA right now Nikola Jocic and Luka Doncic! South Africa = black country, all of South Africas heavyweight world champions ever in boxing were white, their greatest ever boxer is Brian Mitchell. And the tiny minority of whites in South Africa produced the best Rugby players so much in comparison to the overwhelming Black majority, that they had to come up with a rule/quota where they had to include 3 black players in the squad haha And by the way Tiger Woods isn't even black! ​

To be fair, black Americans used to be far more action-oriented fighters than they are today, generally speaking. It's only recently they've become known for having such a safety-first 'tag, you're it' style of fighting. I'm not a Mayweather hater, he's been one of my favourite boxers to watch, but it has to be said that he left some terrible long-term impacts on the sport and this is one of them IMO. Young boxers today see the overwhelming success he had with this particular style and so that's what they copy, naturally. The problem is that along with this, there's been an overall shift in the scoring meta whereby defensive boxing is now given too much credit. It used to be "make them miss and make them pay," now it's just "make them miss." It used to be the guy coming forward who was typically favoured by judges in close rounds, now it's the opposite. Add in the much increased leniency towards clinching (it's barely even enforced as a foul anymore) and you have the perfect recipe for this kind of uber defensive, negative, spoiling style which is quite prevalent today. There’s still alot of aggressive Black Boxers only 2 are known for hit and run today that are popular ! Haney & Shakur. Wilder,Davis,Regis,Spence,Crawford,AJaint no runners and are some of the most popular boxers right now

I think it's just a numbers game. Black fighters are still probably the majority of fighters in America and since we seen them more often, we see more styles than let's say a Mexican who wants to just get in there, put a lot of pressure and take your head off. That's not to say that they don't have their own aggressive fighters when I think of Crawford or Spence Jr. who come to mind. Though yes, a lot go the technical route and since there are a lot of black boxers in boxing, I think we just see it more often from them than when you think of another ethnicity. Lately however, I'm seeing more technical Mexican boxers, so the styles are becoming more varied between the different cultures and although when you think of Mexican style, you think take 2 to land 3 with a lack of defense, there is more and more lately who are adding technical skills to their game. Heck, Canelo is probably the least Mexican style boxer these days and the most popular. I know he can bang when another fighter decides to engage him, but him just going through the motions of the fight, he's more on hit and showing off defense. I think the internet will h-omogenize boxing styles slowly over time. All the information is out there for the taking.

I don't know of a single book that covers training through all of boxing history but most books that cover a period will at least touch on the training in that period. How and when Jewish boxing diverged from Christian boxing in the late 1780s can be found in Bareknuckle 1722-1888 by Chris Shelton, likewise that book will reference the connection between black american and jewish english boxers. When and how ​training came to America and how white training differed from black training in America can be found in Kevin Smith's Black Genesis: The History of the Black Prizefighter 1760-1870 But to be clear if you're interested in learning the history of training that's going to require a bunch of different books that are really about different subjects. As you get more modern in time it's easy and you can get a single book for say the 70s-now, but for older generations it's really a challenge I've books ranging from ancient sources originally written on papyrus and etched in stone to modern books from modern trainers and writers and I've written a few let me explain the full history of this or that threads but not yet done training because it's a seriously under focused subject in boxing history. I'm getting pretty close and can answer the origins for a few things we just take for granted, like when sparring came to be, but still can't do the full history of training any justice. I can recommend Matt Dunnellon's Peter Maher The Irish Champion. Despite being a bio book it's also a very good era book. Boxing in the time of Christ is a solid introduction to ancient boxing, it's a good overview book that's not too terribly weighty. Colorline era ethics are probably best handled by Kevin's sequel to Genesis; Sundowners. I'm sorry bud, off the cuff that's all I can remember having decent training sections. Those will cover bare knuckle for you pretty good and the very early days of Queensbury before the bodies. Cheers, happy researching bud. No, no this is perfect. Much appreciated.

People like to be racist. Anyone who really cares will be looking way more in depth into a particular fighter's style. I don't think I'd care at all about the opinion of someone who said something like that.

I think it's just a numbers game. Black fighters are still probably the majority of fighters in America and since we seen them more often, we see more styles than let's say a Mexican who wants to just get in there, put a lot of pressure and take your head off. That's not to say that they don't have their own aggressive fighters when I think of Crawford or Spence Jr. who come to mind. Though yes, a lot go the technical route and since there are a lot of black boxers in boxing, I think we just see it more often from them than when you think of another ethnicity. Lately however, I'm seeing more technical Mexican boxers, so the styles are becoming more varied between the different cultures and although when you think of Mexican style, you think take 2 to land 3 with a lack of defense, there is more and more lately who are adding technical skills to their game. Heck, Canelo is probably the least Mexican style boxer these days and the most popular. I know he can bang when another fighter decides to engage him, but him just going through the motions of the fight, he's more on hit and showing off defense.

boxing is entertainment. people PAY for entertainment. thats how boxers get paid. it's the people's money. only recently people realize they dont have to pay for sh.itty styles that dont bring entertainment. sorry shakur. you dont get the bag no more :boxing: Boxers fight to win. Not to please you. Shakur will still get paid regardless of what you think.

To be fair, black Americans used to be far more action-oriented fighters than they are today, generally speaking. It's only recently they've become known for having such a safety-first 'tag, you're it' style of fighting. I'm not a Mayweather hater, he's been one of my favourite boxers to watch, but it has to be said that he left some terrible long-term impacts on the sport and this is one of them IMO. Young boxers today see the overwhelming success he had with this particular style and so that's what they copy, naturally. The problem is that along with this, there's been an overall shift in the scoring meta whereby defensive boxing is now given too much credit. It used to be "make them miss and make them pay," now it's just "make them miss." It used to be the guy coming forward who was typically favoured by judges in close rounds, now it's the opposite. Add in the much increased leniency towards clinching (it's barely even enforced as a foul anymore) and you have the perfect recipe for this kind of uber defensive, negative, spoiling style which is quite prevalent today.

Blacks and Jews invented hit and don't be hit back boxing and it's still reflected in their training lineages. Most black fighters have black trainers, most black trainers learned from black trainers. Why fans don't appreciate it is beyond me. But why blacks are more defensive is because of the colorline and training lineages. Whites kept them out of their training along with jews, blacks and jews buddied and invented a new way of training to protect themselves better because they could not get big fights they made up the money loss with fighting a lot more often and to keep their body able they fought defense first. Jews left boxing, or rather, are not represented in larger numbers by the mid 1900s which left only black boxing to carry defense first fighting. Obviously these days everyone's a lot more mixed but like a lot of things the differences go back to racism and racist divisions in society. Can you recommend some reading on this subject? Not questioning your assertions, but would like to read about this history.