Joshua had the balls to get straight back in with this guy after getting schooled and give it a go, same with Ruiz after he got battered.
Anthony Joshua is the best British Heavyweight since lennox Lewis, no he can't beat EVERYONE, but he can beat 95% of them, why a certain group of UK "fans" want to act like Joshua is nothing special and then jumped on fury and Joyce's balls I'll never know.
Fury has brought UK boxing into disrepute, the reality is he has 2 good wins, Wilder 2 and Wlad, the rest of his wins are all domestic level.
Fury is WORSE than David Haye for this sort of stuff, and Haye was bad enough of an embarrassment.
Joshua is not a perfect fighter but he's a damn good fighter, he doesn't duck anyone, he takes his L's and gets straight back in the saddle, he never pulls out of fights, he's professional,
The breakdown after Usyk 2 and if you watch the Louis theroux documentary it's because of the insane pressure the UK fans put on AJ which isn't right, unless he's literally Muhammed Ali it's not good enough for them.
The UK has had TWO elite heavyweights since world war 2, Lewis, and just below that AJ.
Then a level down you have talented but fraudulent Haye and Fury.
Give AJ his fucking respect.
I do agree for whatever reason some fans crap all over AJ because he's not an unbeatable monster.
It is just a bit weird.
Even Joshua himself has admitted he's not perfect....several times.
He's an elite heavyweight and I have faith that he will take on big challenges regularly unti he calls it a day and yes, he will most likely lose again at some stage and we will have months of a plethora of people on here telling us how s.hit he is, lol.
I don't remember so.
But I do remember a Boxing News cover with a huge "A-Farce" headline after one of his fights (possibly his debut, but I'm not sure).
First loss came from Danny Williams
Fought Guinn , Rogan , Haye few others who were better than the average fighter
And Harrison fought better comp
I don't remember so.
But I do remember a Boxing News cover with a huge "A-Farce" headline after one of his fights (possibly his debut, but I'm not sure).
One thing that must be remembered is that Joshua had a much better professional career than fellow Olympic gold Audley Harrison, who was equally hyped at the beginning.
And Harrison fought better comp
how did he fight VALIANTLY? he did nothing in the Usyk fights.
He coulda beat Usyk easily. he has the skills and all the tools but just lacks the MENTAL side of things. The boy is mentally WEAK. No heart no guts no OOMPF
I'm not saying he has no problems, for sure his mind was damaged by the Ruiz defeat. But I don't think Joshua lacks courage. He's become gun-shy, yes, but I believe that, in the right circumstance, he would show his bravery again as he did against Klitschko.
I was very high on AJ at the outset, but must admit that the Ruiz loss disheartened me quite a lot.
But he fought valiantly - twice - against Usyk, and that's a point many tend to overlook following his famous rant.
how did he fight VALIANTLY? he did nothing in the Usyk fights.
He coulda beat Usyk easily. he has the skills and all the tools but just lacks the MENTAL side of things. The boy is mentally WEAK. No heart no guts no OOMPF
As someone who used to go to the early Fury fights back in the day i'll hold my hands up. Since becoming the man his cv has been absolute rubbish. Since winning the belt a decade ago he's fought Wilder and Whyte who were ranked. (whyte was sparked out by Povetkin the previous year too)That's pitiful stuff. Very sad to see a generatonal talent like Usyk being aged out of this era. Usyk has done everything asked of him but what is he meant to do? A pure dung era of HW boxing is this.
I think Fury is more naturally talented but hes also undisciplied, unprofessional and a lying dodgy shithead. AJ is basically a workmanlike fighter with solid power, size and athleticism, but hes always in shape and for all the criticism hes had over the years he fought the most consistently decent level of opposition out of him, Fury and Wilder. I also think he deserves credit for being the initial reason the HW division started gaining some commercial appeal again. Lets face it nobody really cared when Fury beat Wlad in a snoozefest and "retired", and Wilder was in obscurity fighting cans in Alabama for fucking years on end. Both of those guys mainly got popular through attaching their name to AJs.
Anthony Joshua has never been exposed, he has just been beaten 'Olympic Champion's, and two times World Heavyweight Champion's with numerous World title defenses against World level fighters, do not really get exposed. They just get beaten by better fighters'.
Everyone knows Anthony Joshua's level in the sport, Joshua has been thoroughly tested 'And it is official, Anthony Joshua has been consistently a World level and once upon a time a Elite level Heavyweight within this era of Heavyweights'.
Anthony Joshua has beaten every single fighter, he has ever faced expect Oleksandr Uysk 'People may mock him for his loss to Ruiz Junior, but he avenged that loss'.
Note: The fall-out your are talking about, are just opportunist trying to knock somebody when they are vulnerable or they suffer a loss. It is the opportunist who time and time again, THEY are the people who get exposed.
We see them all the time in life and sport, switching their loyalty's up real quick and betraying themselves. To align with whoever and whatever is dominating or popular within the status quo. They are the people that get exposed most of all in a sport like boxing, way more than the fighters in my opinion.
People know Joshua's level, he has been one of the more component and solid Heavyweights of this era 'And he has actually overachieved in the sport' etc.
Well i have never been a big believer in Joshua not a hater either i was indifferent to him until how he behaved after the Usyk loss and it just showed the kind of guy he was a sore loser and an asshole trying to start fights with an old man. You say he was tested i say right place right time considering most of the "elites" he beat was over the hill by the time he got to them not saying he's a bum either hes a good fighter but i would never class him as the best of this era.
I don't hate Joshua at all but when you hype something up to be what it's not there will be a fallout when he is eventually exposed
Anthony Joshua has never been exposed, he has just been beaten 'Olympic Champion's, and two times World Heavyweight Champion's with numerous World title defenses against World level fighters, do not really get exposed. They just get beaten by better fighters'.
Everyone knows Anthony Joshua's level in the sport, Joshua has been thoroughly tested 'And it is official, Anthony Joshua has been consistently a World level and once upon a time a Elite level Heavyweight within this era of Heavyweights'.
Anthony Joshua has beaten every single fighter, he has ever faced expect Oleksandr Uysk 'People may mock him for his loss to Ruiz Junior, but he avenged that loss'.
Note: The fall-out your are talking about, are just opportunist trying to knock somebody when they are vulnerable or they suffer a loss. It is the opportunist who time and time again, THEY are the people who get exposed.
We see them all the time in life and sport, switching their loyalty's up real quick and betraying themselves. To align with whoever and whatever is dominating or popular within the status quo. They are the people that get exposed most of all in a sport like boxing, way more than the fighters in my opinion.
People know Joshua's level, he has been one of the more component and solid Heavyweights of this era 'And he has actually overachieved in the sport' etc.
I agree the Ruiz loss was a bad one, that I still think he learned the wrong lessons from. Personally I don't think AJ has maxed his potential as a fighter, but still he's done exceptionally well and people need to lay off the guy (I'm talking to fury fanboys)
As a neutral observer, I can tell that Fury's low level of dignity is enough for me to prefer Joshua to him in any case. That's a shame, for I thought Fury was an intelligent man until a while ago.
I was keen on Fury when he came back from drugs and depression to handle Wilder without problems in their first fight. But the way he behaved in the subsequent years has really turned me off. The passing of time is gradually giving you a reason to affirm that AJ is superior to Fury in most aspects.
I was very high on AJ at the outset, but must admit that the Ruiz loss disheartened me quite a lot.
But he fought valiantly - twice - against Usyk, and that's a point many tend to overlook following his famous rant.
I agree the Ruiz loss was a bad one, that I still think he learned the wrong lessons from. Personally I don't think AJ has maxed his potential as a fighter, but still he's done exceptionally well and people need to lay off the guy (I'm talking to fury fanboys)
They were top 10 fighters mate. He beat the people in the division. Mandatories, unifications... he fought them and he beat them until he got to Usyk.
The Ruiz loss is nowhere near as significant as you think. He avenged it quickly. Just as plenty of Champions before him did when they inevitably got shocked.
He's objectively one of the best over the last 20 years.
But they were past it they were once upon a time top tier contenders but by the time AJ got to them not so much that needs be taken into account when looking at his overall resume like when people speak like AJ beat back to back killers on murderers row when that was never the case.
Joshua has had the second best career of any heavyweight in the last 20 years mate.
Wlad
AJ
Vitali
Fury
Usyk
Wilder
I was very high on AJ at the outset, but must admit that the Ruiz loss disheartened me quite a lot.
But he fought valiantly - twice - against Usyk, and that's a point many tend to overlook following his famous rant.
One of the best in the sport over the last couple of decades < exactly the type of talk i was talking about, top 10 heavyweight sure but that kind of hype after what he showed in the first Ruiz fight and the Usyk fights is unwarranted. During his "peak" most of his opposition was old past it fighters (povetkin, pulev, wlad, ect) his resume and skills have always been overrated.
They were top 10 fighters mate. He beat the people in the division. Mandatories, unifications... he fought them and he beat them until he got to Usyk.
The Ruiz loss is nowhere near as significant as you think. He avenged it quickly. Just as plenty of Champions before him did when they inevitably got shocked.
He's objectively one of the best over the last 20 years.
If anyone is ever hyped to be the best there's ever been (or since Ali) then I think your own intelligence needs to kick in. The chances of them being the best ever are pretty slim. A new best ever doesn't happen very often.
But Joshua is a future Hall of Famer. Twice unified champion. One of the best in the sport over the last couple of decades. With a fan draw that has rarely been matched.
I mean, that young hyped up fighter did ok didn't he?
His detractors tend to set incredibly high standards for a fighter that they don't rate
One of the best in the sport over the last couple of decades < exactly the type of talk i was talking about, top 10 heavyweight sure but that kind of hype after what he showed in the first Ruiz fight and the Usyk fights is unwarranted. During his "peak" most of his opposition was old past it fighters (povetkin, pulev, wlad, ect) his resume and skills have always been overrated.