The he never beat any hall of famers argument is weak

It's like when people say Wladimir Klitschko didn't beat many other world champs. How the fuck could h have when he literally dominated the division for well over a decade! No one could hold the belts or ve a former champ, cause Wlad was so good!

MOST OF THE TIME, WHEN A FIGHTER BEATS A SHOE IN HALL OF FAMER THAT HOFER HE'S ALREADY WAY PAST HIS PRIME. CURRENT FIGHTERS DON'T GET INTO THE HALL OF FAME UNTIL THEY RETIRE YEARS AND A DECADE LATER. EXAMPLE, EDWIN ROSARIO WHO WAS A TOP P4P FIGHTER IN HIS PRIME RETIRED in 1997 BUT ONLY GOT INDUCTED IN THE HALL OF FAME IN 2006. IF YOU LOOK IN ANY ERA IN THE PAST NOBODY WAS A HOFER WHILE THEY ARE ACTIVE UNTIL THEY RETIRED MANY YEARS AFTER. THE CRITERIA FOR THE HALL OF FAME ISN'T TO COMPARE FIGHTERS FROM DIFFERENT ERAS. IT'S TO COMPARE YOURSELF WITH FIGHERS FROM YOUR OWN ERA. A LOT OF FIGHTERS TODAY THAT MANY DON'T THINK WILL GET INTO THE HALL OF FAME WILL BE HOFERS A DECADE LATER AFTER THEY RETIRE. I can agree to some extent. It's not as if there are HOFers available to fight everyone And when they are available, are they past prime and just surviving off name recognition ? That said, a legit resume should contain a bunch of quality names as close to prime as possible. We all know what a quality resume looks like. Even the hateful fanboys know :boxing:

Thats very subjective, you can say a lot of fans when the actual numbers of opinion are never counted, some opinions stand out to one guy and mean nothing to another, its generally a consensus across fans, media and boxing identi-ies where they all agree that a certain fighter will be a lock for HOF status especially near the end of their career. Can you believe it censored the identity plural? This forum still does some very weird things while posting and editing posts, and has done ever since they changed it, years now. My point is every year there are hall of famers being inducted. Hall of fame criteria isn't based on comparing eras. It's how dominant and good you are in your own era. You don't need to beat any hofers to become a hofer. That's the biggest misconception I see. Vlad beat a bunch of euro bums and he's in the hofer. He beats zero hofers.

Great fighers are made when you fight other great fighters. Canelo became a great fighter by beating ggg who is a great fighter. One fight does not make a great fighter, so many average guys pull an upset, that doesn't define great, its the entire resume that makes them great.

not always. Gatti got into the hof. Many fighters get into the hof who fans say shouldn't be there. A lot of times fans compare eras. That's not how you get into the hof. Thats very subjective, you can say a lot of fans when the actual numbers of opinion are never counted, some opinions stand out to one guy and mean nothing to another, its generally a consensus across fans, media and boxing identi-ies where they all agree that a certain fighter will be a lock for HOF status especially near the end of their career. Can you believe it censored the identity plural? This forum still does some very weird things while posting and editing posts, and has done ever since they changed it, years now.

Pretty much how can ggg have had a great career without beating a single great fighter Great fighers are made when you fight other great fighters. Canelo became a great fighter by beating ggg who is a great fighter.

but fans pretty much know who will get into the hof long before they do. not always. Gatti got into the hof. Many fighters get into the hof who fans say shouldn't be there. A lot of times fans compare eras. That's not how you get into the hof.

Pretty much how can ggg have had a great career without beating a single great fighter ggg is a good example showing the difficulty in ranking some guys, hes a bit like andre ward, both are good at triggering people into debates

current fighters don't get into the hall of fame until they retire years and a decade later. Fans don't decide who gets into the hall of fame. But fans pretty much know who will get into the HOF long before they do.

Hindsight is 20/20 vision, when a fighter beats HOF guys is showing that he beat real top notch fighters, when looking at primes it also must look at the prime of the both guys at the time of the fights. There is no auto lock, its only later when you go back over resumes that you can see the full perspective across the entire body of work, prime is not a day, in elite guys prime is many years where they operate at 90% and above level which is why they are elite, fans think prime is on and off like a switch its not its like a bell curve.

yes if u have never beaten any future hof'ers your career could be called weak current fighters don't get into the hall of fame until they retire years and a decade later. Fans don't decide who gets into the hall of fame.

yes if u have never beaten any future hof'ers your career could be called weak