NSB keeps hearing this narrative. This is your chance to prove your case. Just identify such names on your list.
Thurman is called out by everybody, if you want that name. He also rejects everybody.
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No one is avoiding Ennis. Even senior citizen Robert Guerro wants to smell a scent of that Ennis smoke.
Robert Guerrero Would Embrace Opportunity To Face Jaron Ennis: Bring Him On Down!
https://www.boxingscene.com/robert-g...-180140
Ennis should have at least tried fighting those types of fights in his 20th, 25th, and so on fights. Was he hiding at that time avoiding and skipping all that smoke? Here we had Ortiz stepping up already in his 22nd fight. Ennis' first step up fight was with Villa, his 32nd fight. Hardly a name to brag about, and why that late?
None, he's just another inactive American social media addict. Notice how these guys are being left out in the cold by the Saudis because they're (1) too small and (2) too boring.
Dan it says you are banned... Hope not. Boots is a legend in his own mind.
With 32 fights on his record, it could even be ****** to say he's avoided. It might even smarter to say he's the most fought fighter in the division based on such rate. Stanionis only got 15 fights on his record. Vergil Ortiz is going after his 21st fight. Those looks to me more like the ones being avoided.
Hardly an avoided fighter with 33 fights on his record as compared to others his age.
With 32 fights on his record, it could even be ****** to say he's avoided. It might even smarter to say he's the most fought fighter in the division based on such rate. Stanionis only got 15 fights on his record. Vergil Ortiz is going after his 21st fight. Those looks to me more like the ones being avoided.
I didn't realize that. Why in the world is Stanionis only at 15? I know he got caught up with Ortiz' issues and then his own injury, but he's young and prime and should be busier.
You're answering a question that wasn't being asked. The question was WHO ARE THE FIGHTERS THAT AVOIDED BOOTS. Your responds was "the obvious answer is Terence Crawford"...... Suggesting that Crawford avoided Boots.....Which is false for the reasons I pointed out and, ironically, the reasons you pointed out as well, thus you are arguing against your original comment.
So, no, it doesn't make sense because I'm not sure if you are saying that Crawford avoided Boots or if you are saying that Boots decided against taking a Crawford fight at this point in his career.
Just being honest, my comprehension on your stance is a bit blurry.
Oh you're right, my bad. I misread the title as who "who avoided Jaron and/or who did Jaron avoid."
My post was why the fight was never going to happen, Crawford is too much of a risk for Boot's young career.
But to get back to the original question, Boots at one point was mandatory to Crawford's WBO title. Instead of facing Crawford for his WBO strap, Boots gave up his ranking and went with the IBF.
So there, now it makes sense.
You're answering a question that wasn't being asked. The question was WHO ARE THE FIGHTERS THAT AVOIDED BOOTS. Your responds was "the obvious answer is Terence Crawford"...... Suggesting that Crawford avoided Boots.....Which is false for the reasons I pointed out and, ironically, the reasons you pointed out as well, thus you are arguing against your original comment.
So, no, it doesn't make sense because I'm not sure if you are saying that Crawford avoided Boots or if you are saying that Boots decided against taking a Crawford fight at this point in his career.
Just being honest, my comprehension on your stance is a bit blurry.
...Boots at one point was mandatory to Crawford's WBO title. Instead of facing Crawford for his WBO strap, Boots gave up his ranking and went with the IBF.
That move of giving up one to go with another doesn't even make sense. Why not let both stay where they are and and pick the one that becomes available? Was the IBF shot readily available for Ennis when he gave up the WBO mandatory? No. Wasn't even close. Stanionis was after Spence, too, for his WBA. And PBC was more interested in Thurman for Spence.
The question is "what names have avoided Boots".......how is the "obvious answer" Terence Crawford when he never avoided that boy..... Mfers get on here and say the silliest things without checking the logic.
Crawford and his camp along with the WBO contacted Boots camp about the fight and it was turned down. Bozy Ennis said the reason was their "loyalty" to Showtime. Ummm ok, being that Crawford wasn't contractually bound to any platform, why didn't you negotiate....Ironically, Crawford's fight vs Spence was on Showtime. Boots camp was contacted A SECOND TIME by BLK Prime in attempt to get a second fight with Crawford on their platform. Bozy confirmed that both conversations happened.
So again, how is it that Terence Crawford is the "obvious answer".....Make it make sense.
Crawford is a 2x Undisputed, 3x Lineal, 9x World Champion. Him looking for a big fight is what he DESERVES. Why do y'all try to make it seem like his hard work and accomplishments is minor, but then turn around and praise some fighter(s) who are TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT HE HAS......He's one of the most decorated active fighters in the sport.
Of course, Crawford isn't looking for a Boots fight at this moment.... Boots can't even get his handlers to get him a purse above $500K....... Crawford has made over $35/40M in his last 2 fights combined. It's been over a decade since he had a fight in which his purse was under a million.
And Thurman, Ortiz, nor Stanionis have avoided Boots either. Stanionis actually asked for the fight. Ortiz was open to it. Thurman is an accomplished fighter. Marketable, even though has been highly inactive as of late. He said verbatim....SEND THE CONTRACT......Yet, his phone has yet to ring, his email has yet to give an alert, the mailman has yet to deliver.....anything regarding the Ennis camp being interested in making the fight. Because THAT'S A FIGHT HE COULD ACTUALLY GET especially now, because he has something that Thurman is willing to fight for........
My post was why the fight was never going to happen, Crawford is too much of a risk for Boot's young career.
But to get back to the original question, Boots at one point was mandatory to Crawford's WBO title. Instead of facing Crawford for his WBO strap, Boots gave up his ranking and went with the IBF.
So there, now it makes sense.
This guy is telling it like it is...and he's got proof.
PROOF!!! JARON ENNIS DUCKING FIGHTERS LIKE CONNOR BENN, SANTILLAN, COBBS, STANIONIS and MORE...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A25u7W8yvN0
Where all the Bud haters and the same ones who say he sucking ?
I saw something else similar to this and still no one came out to say the opposite
I tell you , these are all Spence fans who turned to Boots for redemption starting with that idiot Leicesterage
been seen since these things have been popping up everywhere
Lmao
This guy is telling it like it is...and he's got proof.
PROOF!!! JARON ENNIS DUCKING FIGHTERS LIKE CONNOR BENN, SANTILLAN, COBBS, STANIONIS and MORE...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A25u7W8yvN0
No one is avoiding Ennis. Even senior citizen Robert Guerro wants to smell a scent of that Ennis smoke.
Robert Guerrero Would Embrace Opportunity To Face Jaron Ennis: Bring Him On Down!
https://www.boxingscene.com/robert-guerrero-embrace-opportunity-face-jaron-ennis-bring-him-on-down--180140
Many of the fighters he fought don't even have wiki pages. One that has is embedded inside those names and he got 10 loses when Ennis fought him in his 20th fight. His name is Mike Arnoutis and his loses were from Victor Ortiz, Danny Garcia, Chis Algieri, Josesito Lopez and some unknown guys nobody ever heard before.
If Boots' camp is really serious about the Crawford fight, all they can do is contact BLK and see if they can still revive their previous offer. Showtime is gone. Who else is there to make such fight?
All they have to do is contact Crawford's camp and express an actual interest instead of just jumping in front of some YouTubers camera to talk about Crawford. Crawford isn't legally bound to any platform so BLK Prime isn't the only ones who can make the fight happen. DAZN is there as well. All of PBC is going to be on Amazon Prime..... And truthfully, all they have to do is start the negotiation and the boxing sanctions can order a purse bid......This would get the companies to compete via auction to host the fight.....It also will help to get Boots a purse that touches 7 figures for the first time in his career....
But truth of the matter is.............BOOTS DOESN'T REALLY WANT THAT FIGHT RIGHT NOW..... It just sounds good to say simply because it keeps him relevant and silly platforms and fans will help push the notion that he is being "avoided".......
These fighters know the protocol and how to make fights happen. It literally takes fights the ability of turning down an official offer for the fight not to happen. Like what Danny Garcia did to Crawford, same with Porter the first time before a purse bid, same with JARON ENNIS when approached by the WBO to be made the mandatory......
So people have said guys like Thurman, Ortiz, Stanionis but the obvious answer is Terence Crawford.
With all that being said however, I'm going to tell you why Bud vs Boots will never happen.
Bud is at the stage of his career where he wants his name to be elevated, he wants the big time, brand building fights like a Canelo fight.
Boots on the other hand, brings nothing to the table, (I know he has the IBF belt but Crawford's been there and done that, not interested) and he has no fanbase right now and probably never will.
Boots may want to fight Crawford but his team not going to let him because that fight is too risky, they still need to make some paper before throwing him to the wolves.
The question is "what names have avoided Boots".......how is the "obvious answer" Terence Crawford when he never avoided that boy..... Mfers get on here and say the silliest things without checking the logic.
Crawford and his camp along with the WBO contacted Boots camp about the fight and it was turned down. Bozy Ennis said the reason was their "loyalty" to Showtime. Ummm ok, being that Crawford wasn't contractually bound to any platform, why didn't you negotiate....Ironically, Crawford's fight vs Spence was on Showtime. Boots camp was contacted A SECOND TIME by BLK Prime in attempt to get a second fight with Crawford on their platform. Bozy confirmed that both conversations happened.
So again, how is it that Terence Crawford is the "obvious answer".....Make it make sense.
Crawford is a 2x Undisputed, 3x Lineal, 9x World Champion. Him looking for a big fight is what he DESERVES. Why do y'all try to make it seem like his hard work and accomplishments is minor, but then turn around and praise some fighter(s) who are TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT HE HAS......He's one of the most decorated active fighters in the sport.
Of course, Crawford isn't looking for a Boots fight at this moment.... Boots can't even get his handlers to get him a purse above $500K....... Crawford has made over $35/40M in his last 2 fights combined. It's been over a decade since he had a fight in which his purse was under a million.
And Thurman, Ortiz, nor Stanionis have avoided Boots either. Stanionis actually asked for the fight. Ortiz was open to it. Thurman is an accomplished fighter. Marketable, even though has been highly inactive as of late. He said verbatim....SEND THE CONTRACT......Yet, his phone has yet to ring, his email has yet to give an alert, the mailman has yet to deliver.....anything regarding the Ennis camp being interested in making the fight. Because THAT'S A FIGHT HE COULD ACTUALLY GET especially now, because he has something that Thurman is willing to fight for........
You aren't going to get any actual names because Bozy nor Jaron can give you an actual name of anyone who has ever turned down an official offer to fight Boots. It's a narrative that they have/are using to keep him relevant enough to promote as a tough opponent. So far it has worked as he has been able to get the powers that be to strip a title from an Undisputed champ just a couple months after winning the title. Ignoring the fact that they are legally bound to a rematch clause.
What we do know for a FACT is that Boots and/or his camp turned down the Crawford fight twice. They were approached by the WBO & Crawford's camp prior to Crawford fighting Avaneysan. They were also approached after the Avaneysan fight by BLK Prime, before Crawford got on the phone with Spence for their match up. They reasons for declining those offers were loyalty to Showtime & $$ that they wasn't sure BLK Prime had the money to throw the event. (Weird considering, Boots largest purse is only like $500K, so he would have gotten a massive raise to fight FOR A TITLE vs Crawford)
This question shouldn't be a subject on a forum that is 7+ pages long, to answer. Literally NOT ONE NAME came out of Boots mouth when Crawford asked him the exact question when he called in to "Million Dollars Worth of Game" podcast when asked who he contacted to make the fight vs Crawford. He was caught in the lie because Crawford is straight forward. Something these YouTubers aren't. They are the ones feeding this false narrative because it gives them content for their next video.