Was cataract really the secret reason Spence lost to Bud?

Spence says he was unable to see the jabs and got hit repeatedly because of cataract. Now that he has undergone the surgery, would he be able to turn tbe tables on Bud? No. Bud is just more versatile and more disciplined. Spence is a known alcoholic. Maybe if he's able to drop his alcohol habit he might put up a better fight but I doubt it because that type of damage takes years to reverse, if reversible at all.

i presume the pics of loma with his shoulder surgery & cryin stuff will now be switched to errol with his eye patch

Nope. Watch the danny garcia fight post accident and then watch the porter fight pre accident. It's the same exact spence Its not the same exact. Its not a sudden deterioration. Spence lost a piece of himself after every fight. By the time he got to Crawford, he was in the worst condition of his career.

Anyone who thinks Spence was a #4 P4P guy when he fought Crawford is delusional. This wasnt a P4P win. Car crash, detached retina, cataracs, punch drunk, the guy is wasted. How can anyone think he was the same fighter from years ago?? He’s been deteriorating since. Cataracs doesnt happen all of a sudden. Neither does being punch drunk. I guarantee after this news, Spence will be removed from every P4P list. If he hasnt already.

I'll just leave this here. https://boxing.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/boxingnvgov/content/Licensing/OPTHO-EXAM13(3).pdf This dude is washed, got beat the F up and is making excuses just like his sorry fans do. He gets killed at any weight against Crawford and always would have. He never would have been able to fight if his eyes were that bad.

i like the truths line at the end, Still a Great Performance from Bud thats a red rag to bud, u are maties no longer now hey bud u beat a cripple but it was still a great performance lol

You know they test for things like VISION prior to the fight right? They’re not going to send a fighter out there who can’t see punches coming. but it’s a good excuse. Better than egg weights in the gloves Better than doing an entrance in a heavy suit while having chicken legs.

I thought Spence lost because of Crawford's punches.

Spence says he was unable to see the jabs and got hit repeatedly because of cataract. Now that he has undergone the surgery, would he be able to turn tbe tables on Bud? You know they test for things like VISION prior to the fight right? They’re not going to send a fighter out there who can’t see punches coming. but it’s a good excuse. Better than egg weights in the gloves

After he loses the rematch he’ll get surgery for gout

whats the point in having a secret if u can turn it into a lovely excuse, which makes u feel better, its a tried and tested path, im not making any excuses BUT....... {"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","data-attachmentid":32131111}

Better check for haemorrhoids before next fight to be sure, too. Leicesterage will do that. Free of charge of course.

says online that cataracts dont usually start to impair vision until after aged 60 lol spence is an old man & looks it too You can get em early onset and head trauma is thought to be one of the additonal risk factors. I had my first one done at age 44 back in 2017 and I'm due to have my left eye done in a month or two. I was young for it and Spence is very young for it . It does fuck with your vison pretty significantly - or at least it's degenerative and does after a while. Funny enough I can still play table tennis where there's a high contrast between the ball and it's surroundings but I can struggle to see punches (although it's body sparring only for me these days since I got a detached retina)

Agree with all. With hindsight should have been more apparent albeit I know the bookies had Crawford a decent favorite. Midway through round 3 you're already thinking: ' Spence is never getting into this, I don't know how he could get into this, and actually I'm absolutely certain he's gonna get a tremendous beating and probably knocked smooth out.' Just felt sorry for Spence in there and from his end he basically had to stick it out with a big chance of getting rendered unconscious. Reminded me of the sort of fight you see in Muay Thai in Thailand where there is a house fighter essentially who will have a game opponent who will always end up getting violently knocked out. It had that uncomfortable flow to the fight when I was expected a 12 round contest. I've watched enough Muay Thai to know exactly what you mean. The Spence fight was an awkward watch as you said; pretty early on it was apparent that he didn't have it that night (or perhaps ever) and there was nothing he would be able to do to reverse the inevitable slaughter.

Bud knew Spence didn't live the boxer life, but if they'd fought 5 years ago, the drink wouldn't have had as much effect as spence was young. But 6 years more of drinking onwards, obviously takes its toll.

Does anyone recall at the weigh-in face off, Spence told Crawford they were about to make boat load of money with a smile on his face. I feel like Spence may have been OVER confident that he had Crawford? Almost like, be happy, we're both going to get paid big for making the fight happen and when it's over, you can fight someone else while I move on to bigger and better things. Obviously it didn't turn out that way, but Spence was the one with that comment.

The levels step up and levels step down from both guys is milliseconds, its not such a drastic swing but it can have drastic results, that's boxing and its in fractions. True. That's why styles that depend on reflexes age out so fast, especially counterpunchers. That millisecond might be the difference between getting knocked out and landing your own offense. That said, the difference wasn't milliseconds on the night. I don't care if he was having a bad night or not. He was WAY behind the curve. That's also not the only issue. Spence is a basic fighter, eg, his style depends on applying just the basics. He does that well, but basic styles inevitably come up short against people with more tools in the toolbox. For instance, Spence likes to enter with a sloppy double or triple jab to drive opponents back against the ropes. He generally crouches forward to avoid counter power shots, because the angle is bad for a right handed counter. But that tendency left him really open to both the power overhand shotgun jabs and the southpaw overhand counters from Bud. Bud was cracking him over top that jab all night. And since Spence can't start offense without the jab, that left him without answers. If he had an explosive lead right to open with, he'd have had more options. Bud had better distance control because he's got better footwork, and since Spence couldn't drive him to the ropes without getting countered hard, he ended up overreaching, and that left him falling out of position, ripe for a counter. That got him dropped at least once. Spence rarely moves his head off the center lane. Against his fellow PBC fighters who weren't able to deal with his pressure, that wasn't as big a deal. But his head positioning was predictable, and that's a fatal flaw at the elite level. Bud probably could have landed some of those shots with his eyes closed. He doesn't often take angles, for instance, but that's because he has enough power and pressure to overwhelm people so he doesn't need to depend on that. But he struggles against opponents who do have that tool, such as Porter. None of these issues are the sort of things that are really affected by milliseconds. If the other guy is much faster than you, all the timing on the world isn't going to make a big difference. The main way you have to equalize that is to use feints. Then you can time them by making them commit while you're still in position, and that gives you time to catch up. But Spence doesn't really use feints... This is part and parcel of why I never thought Spence was P4P. He simply doesn't have the skillset to compete at that level. I think he'd do similarly well to Casimero if he were a bantamweight. He's got the power and pressure to beat a lot of guys, but he's going to fall short against guys with better skills every time, barring a lucky shot.

I think it was probably a combination of things, the most important is that Crawford is just a better fighter especially at the moment and place that they fought. I think certain variables caught up to Spence: lifestyle, sustained damage (both in and out of the ring) and the weight cut. These all exacerbated the biggest cause for how bad Spence looked, Crawford is just levels above. Agree with all. With hindsight should have been more apparent albeit I know the bookies had Crawford a decent favorite. Midway through round 3 you're already thinking: ' Spence is never getting into this, I don't know how he could get into this, and actually I'm absolutely certain he's gonna get a tremendous beating and probably knocked smooth out.' Just felt sorry for Spence in there and from his end he basically had to stick it out with a big chance of getting rendered unconscious. Reminded me of the sort of fight you see in Muay Thai in Thailand where there is a house fighter essentially who will have a game opponent who will always end up getting violently knocked out. It had that uncomfortable flow to the fight when I was expected a 12 round contest.

I've never been so surprised by just how bad a top fighter looked. Crawford is a generational talent but that was a husk of a Spence in there. Whether it was the weight or this- I probably could buy an excuse on this one. Without really wanting one to win over the other it was just a profoundly disappointing fight after years of build up. Yeah Crawford looked electric and Spence gamely took an absolute shoeing but I doubt anyone really expected or wanted to see that. I think it was probably a combination of things, the most important is that Crawford is just a better fighter especially at the moment and place that they fought. I think certain variables caught up to Spence: lifestyle, sustained damage (both in and out of the ring) and the weight cut. These all exacerbated the biggest cause for how bad Spence looked, Crawford is just levels above.

Spence says he was unable to see the jabs and got hit repeatedly because of cataract. Now that he has undergone the surgery, would he be able to turn tbe tables on Bud? - - Nobody to pay to see that predicted mismatch. Spence is shot as he first showed vs Ugh where he had no timing or balance. He left his career in his wrecked Ferrari and lucky he could buy new teefs.