If Canelo Beats Beanvidez he's clearly the best 168 of all time

Why stop there though? Clarissa Shields is the Undisputed 160lb champion so lets rank her and all women boxing champions with the mens and in whatever weight class we want. Chocolatito was one of the primer fighters of the lower weight classes certainly more accomplished than Jermain Taylor who beat Hopkins and Taylor fought at 168 at least but Choco has a better resume so Hopkins>Taylor> Choco at 168. Wait though, he was never Undisputed in any weight class and Shields is so Shields might be the best 168lber. :lol1: Precisely. MONGOOSE66 you should change your name to just “Mong” you daft cunt

I’ve forgotten more about Boxing than you will ever know you fool :lol1: You’re talking about deduction abilities in regards to ranking fighters in a weight class :lol1: Do you understand how RETARDED that is? Did Hopkins ever fight at Super Middleweight? No. So can he logically be ranked there ahead of fighters who were undisputed champion there? No. Very simple. If we are going to start ranking fighters who never fought at weight classes at said weight class historically then we may as well just rank anyone anywhere. If Hopkins is ahead of Canelo at SMW, then surely so is Dick Tiger? Or is he not? Does it only work for Hopkins in your warped, empty brain? I do believe you have forgotten 98%.

I’ve forgotten more about Boxing than you will ever know you fool :lol1: You’re talking about deduction abilities in regards to ranking fighters in a weight class :lol1: Do you understand how RETARDED that is? Did Hopkins ever fight at Super Middleweight? No. So can he logically be ranked there ahead of fighters who were undisputed champion there? No. Very simple. If we are going to start ranking fighters who never fought at weight classes at said weight class historically then we may as well just rank anyone anywhere. If Hopkins is ahead of Canelo at SMW, then surely so is Dick Tiger? Or is he not? Does it only work for Hopkins in your warped, empty brain? Non homo kisses. Sweet post

Ahh, I see the problem now “mate”. You don’t know boxing. Just another drunk I’ve forgotten more about Boxing than you will ever know you fool :lol1: You’re talking about deduction abilities in regards to ranking fighters in a weight class :lol1: Do you understand how RETARDED that is? Did Hopkins ever fight at Super Middleweight? No. So can he logically be ranked there ahead of fighters who were undisputed champion there? No. Very simple. If we are going to start ranking fighters who never fought at weight classes at said weight class historically then we may as well just rank anyone anywhere. If Hopkins is ahead of Canelo at SMW, then surely so is Dick Tiger? Or is he not? Does it only work for Hopkins in your warped, empty brain?

The guy who ranks Hopkins at Super Middleweight despite the fact he never fought there a single time is talking about common sense :lol1: You are a fucking retard mate. There is no helping you. Ahh, I see the problem now “mate”. You don’t know boxing. Just another drunk

You have ZERO common sense. ZERO deduction skills. I bet you bought the Haney fight huh? Dumb a-ss. LOL The guy who ranks Hopkins at Super Middleweight despite the fact he never fought there a single time is talking about common sense :lol1: You are a fucking retard mate. There is no helping you.

Because you can’t address the points and instead deflect. You rank fighters in weight class that have never fought there, you dumb cunt :lol1: Until you have a basis on how you could rank Hopkins at 168 then you should do yourself a favour and be quiet. You have ZERO common sense. ZERO deduction skills. I bet you bought the Haney fight huh? Dumb a-ss. LOL

I think your reading comprehension is for sheeit. LOL Because you can’t address the points and instead deflect. You rank fighters in weight class that have never fought there, you dumb cunt :lol1: Until you have a basis on how you could rank Hopkins at 168 then you should do yourself a favour and be quiet.

No it wouldn't. Not even close. Ward has a better resume. Froch has a better resume. Calzaghe has a better resume. Roy Jones win over Toney alone is more impressive than anything Canelo has done at 168. Ward and Calzaghe are the only ones that would be debatable and no

I don’t think you understand what the notion of addressing a point means :lol1: You haven’t addressed the fact that Hopkins never fought at Super Middleweight and why it’s illogical to rank him there in general, much less higher than the likes of Canelo once. So if I were to rank Dick Tiger ahead of Andre Ward at Super Middleweight, what are your thoughts on that? Would that be justified? I think your reading comprehension is for sheeit. LOL

Cause I already did TWICE. You’re not that bright. It’s ok. Not everyone is. LoL I don’t think you understand what the notion of addressing a point means :lol1: You haven’t addressed the fact that Hopkins never fought at Super Middleweight and why it’s illogical to rank him there in general, much less higher than the likes of Canelo once. So if I were to rank Dick Tiger ahead of Andre Ward at Super Middleweight, what are your thoughts on that? Would that be justified?

Why don’t you just address the actual point instead of deflecting and avoiding them? How do you go about logically ranking a fighter in a weight class, he hasn’t ever fought in? If you can rank Hopkins above Canelo at Super Middleweight, why not Dick Tiger above Canelo? Why not Carlos Monzon? Why not Billy Conn? Why stop at Hopkins? Why don’t we just rank anyone who’s never fought there aswell? Cause I already did TWICE. You’re not that bright. It’s ok. Not everyone is. LoL

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Some of y'all like lil kids with this best whatever of all time sh^t. 1)Who gives a fook 2)You can't prove any of this type of sh^t 1) People who post on this kind of website 2) You can’t prove it, but you can debate it. Kind of the entire point of internet forums.

Not the best but definitely in the discussion. Roy Jones at 168 is a god amongst men.

Canelo whoops all those euro bums on wards resume. As we all have seen, White euro bums are never as good as A level American or Mexican fighters. Ward vs canelo was the fight to make.

Ok bud, I’ve seen the comments, just like I’ve the seen the JMM vs Pac-Man comments amongst other supposed robberies you realized that’s like what max 100-1000 ppl? Again you’re working against millions and millions of casual ppl who think Canelo got the W when they read it on boxrec/wiki Good luck man Did you click the link that I gave you? I don't think you have, have you?

Your deductions skills are breath taking LOL. Why don’t you just address the actual point instead of deflecting and avoiding them? How do you go about logically ranking a fighter in a weight class, he hasn’t ever fought in? If you can rank Hopkins above Canelo at Super Middleweight, why not Dick Tiger above Canelo? Why not Carlos Monzon? Why not Billy Conn? Why stop at Hopkins? Why don’t we just rank anyone who’s never fought there aswell?

OP forgetting RJJ and Calzaghe fought at 168? how would they do with cement feet canelo? the only mover he had was Saunders who was a dollar store version of those guys

Well, we don’t know if he would or wouldn’t because it never happened. You are delving into fantasy what if’s and not what actually transpired. You’re asking if Pacquaio would have been good at Featherweight or not if he skipped it. Well he DIDN’T skip it so we don’t need to speculate. A more appropriate (illogical) comparison would be ranking Pacquaio at Bantamweight ahead of Jofre, Olivares, Ortiz, Panama Al Brown, Harada, Escobar etc despite the fact he NEVER fought at that weight. Would you do that too? How could you possibly rank someone at a weight class that never fought at that weight class? How could that logically make sense in your brain? Why stop at Hopkins over Canelo? Why not Monzon? Robinson? Hagler? Hell why stop there? Why not Mayweather? Mike Tyson? Let’s just rank anyone who’s never fought there aswell. Hopkins never fought at that weight class, STUPID, You can’t rank him there historically above people like Canelo that not only fought there, became undisputed there and essentially cleaned the whole division out. Your deductions skills are breath taking LOL.