Why do you guys think Benavidez beats Canelo?

I think Canelo does what Andrade could not. Andrade landed but he couldn't hurt and deter Benevidez. Force caution into the Benevidez offense and it's a different game. Great points! Both Andrade and Plant were having success vs Benevides but neither had the power to hurt him. I believe Canelo does. Canelo has never had problems with slow footed, straight forward fighters. It’s the guys with good movement (Floyd, Lara, GGG, Bivol) that give him fits.

Again, Bivol is a light heavy that beat all light heavies he faced. He also beat Canelo in the fight the most casuals predicted him to lose. Bivol also beat bigger version of Canelo Benavidez would face. How exactly is Benavidez more dangerous for Canelo than Bivol was is beyond me. Benavidez has a great stamina and workrate, but no defense. He is there to get countered the whole night. This fight will be as great as Bivol - Ramirez. With Canelo being Bivol. Canelo starts each fight being up 3 rounds. Bivol pummeled Canelo pillar to post for 12 rounds, and the scorecards were 115-113. 7 rounds to 5. Canelo had no business winning 5 rounds in that fight. He didn't win 5 rounds in that fight. Dude got outboxed, he was breathing heavy out of his mouth for the last 5 rounds, with Bivol landing at will. Bivol and Benavidez are completely different styles. Benavidez has ultra high work rate and gets rid of his opponents through accumulation of punches. Bivol is a technician that outboxes his opponent. Your comparison of Benavidez to Ramirez is off. Ramirez is not a power puncher, he's a boxer. Bivol boxed his ears off. Benavidez comes with bad intentions. He has 85% KO ratio. He's a KO risk at any point in time - neither Zurdo or Bivol are KO risks. It's a completely different fight, a fight that Canelo has never fought. The risk for Canelo is not that he'll get outboxed by Bivol, or that Saunders would be too slick for him. Or that Plant is too awkward. The risk is that Benavidez will star slow, but by the 3rd round Benavidez will be bullying Canelo around the ring, bloodying him, and knocking him down to a 3 KD TKO stoppage. A loss like that.. is not something Canelo has had to face since he fought Golovkin. By that point in time, Golovkin was a much older, out of his prime fighter. Benavidez would be younger, bigger, and stronger than Canelo. The risk profile is vastly different. Lose to Bivol and the scenario is that he got ouboxed by a fighter who's bigger than him. Get KTFO by Benavidez, and well.. your aura of invincibility, and your legacy, are gone to the wind.

Erm.. Bivol is a technician. He has a career 50% KO ratio. He hasn't knocked anyone out in 5 years. Kovalev that Canelo fought was badly damaged. He had a 2 month camp and coming off 2 KO losses. He was moving well around the ring and shooting a ton of jabs, rarely throwing a power shot. I don't think those are good comparisons to David. Canelo has never faced someone like Benavidez - a bigger, younger, power puncher. I'm not exaggerating - David Benavidez is unlikely any other opponent Canelo has ever had. This would be a great cinco de mayo fight if Canelo accepts it. Again, Bivol is a light heavy that beat all light heavies he faced. He also beat Canelo in the fight the most casuals predicted him to lose. Bivol also beat bigger version of Canelo Benavidez would face. How exactly is Benavidez more dangerous for Canelo than Bivol was is beyond me. Benavidez has a great stamina and workrate, but no defense. He is there to get countered the whole night. This fight will be as great as Bivol - Ramirez. With Canelo being Bivol.

You really listed Stevens and Journey man Rosado that Lemiuex stopped? lol. Dirrell was shot despite being the WBC champ 35-1 and unbeaten for 6 years before David stopped him? COPE I think it is Interesting enough that Benavidez was 22 when he beat the experienced champ at his prime (34 years old). That's the equivalent of let's say a unexpericed upcoming Ryan Garcia against a Regis Prograis at his peak. Then a year later, he went to fight hard hitter Alexis Roamer Angulo (26-1 at the time with 22 knockouts) who came off from derailing one of Mayweather's top prospects Anthony Sims Jr who was 20 wins with 18 KOs after Angulo was coming off a competitive loss to Zurdo Ramirez, 2 years later with very low activity he gave Edgar Berlanga a run for his money having a controversial loss imo. Then he went to beat a slick crafty fighter in Plant (22-1 with 13 knockouts) who was a decent puncher with a 60% knockout rate but has questionable stamina, he was also having coming off beating a declined Dirrell via late knockout. When fought David, the ref was not doing his job well, allowing Caleb to deploy dirty tactics without warning such as low blows, 2 headbutts and over clinching. Despite having a considerable edge, David caught him to the body, and battered him in the later rounds. (Though he landed a headbutt of his own at the end and one low blow.) Caleb had also beaten the likes of Mike Lee, Vincent Feigenbutz and Jose Uzcategui, who were top contenders for a lackluster division. Only other fighter who beat him was Canelo in the eleventh round prior to the loss to Bivol. He also pummeled Kyrone Ellis until a 7th round stoppage, who had a split draw with the same version of Anthony Dirrell that fought Plant. Which was the reason why I thought he would beaten Caleb prior their fight. Andrade (32-0 with 19 KOs) a slick southpaw that had acclimated to 168 after fighting Nicholson, he was always large bodied for the divisions he fought at (154-160) standing at 6'1, according to a journalist that goes by JuliusJulianis, Demetrius rehydrated 23 pounds (190lb) which was heavier than David (17 pounds at 184 pounds). He has a lackluster resume but was well experienced with some decent opponents and was undefeated besides being a former champ. Only fighter I don't think was near at his best was when Benavidez fought David Lemiuex, but even though he had declined after some battles, he was still relatively young at 33 years old and was still a heavy hitter having beaten Max Bursak and Gary Sullivan in one round. (Who lasted in the late rounds against Munguia and Lara after his loss). David has beaten 4 former world champions (Lemiuex, Andrade, Dirrell and Plant), he might not have the best resume compared to most P4P fighters, but I feel like people should not look down on his current accolades. The guy is currently 26 years old and is aiming for the best that are at 168 before moving up, Errol Spence's HOF career started at 27 years old yet David is quite ahead of him. With Spence having beaten 7 champs before facing Crawford.

You really listed Stevens and Journey man Rosado that Lemiuex stopped? lol. Dirrell was shot despite being the WBC champ 35-1 and unbeaten for 6 years before David stopped him? COPE

You don't seem to realize that Benavidez already has a better resume than hype job GGG. Haymon Monster's Resume Shot - Lemieux Shot - Dirrell No Power - Plant Al Haymon Mind Trick - Andrade (setup fight like GGGimmick vs Brook but you can't see what Haymon just did with the Straw-weight ring) TMT - Garvil GGGimmick Resume minus Canelo Jacobs Murray Stevens Derevy Rosado (I've favor him over Garvil, much better resume) What's the difference b/c I don't see it? The two best would be Jacobs vs Plant. Is plant really that much better than the Jacobs GGG fought?

GGG 1 700 punches and GGG 2 879 punches and superior to Benavidez and Garvil in terms of punch placement. Keep believing the Gilberto Ramirez Lie 2.0. Haymon just got a 1.5 million PPV. Canelo will compromise and dog walk him by the 7th round. You don't seem to realize that Benavidez already has a better resume than hype job GGG.

Gavril had amazing conditioning and gas tank, who could throw 800 punches in a fight and he actually took a major beating in that rematch and went to hospital with a concussion vs a 22 year old Benavidez. Canelo is much smaller, far inferior gas tank, and punch out put. Also is slower. I think he has nothing for Benavidez. That supposed great counter punching will shrivel up to nothing by round 3-4 once he gasses out and gets drowned. It will be a beat down for Benavidez. GGG 1 700 punches and GGG 2 879 punches and superior to Benavidez and Garvil in terms of punch placement. Keep believing the Gilberto Ramirez Lie 2.0. Haymon just got a 1.5 million PPV. Canelo will compromise and dog walk him by the 7th round.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSZdqAhJ0lM Garvil 2. Solid 168 fighter, not a 160-inflated pure boxer setup by Al Haymon in a straw-weight ring. Takes Benavidez shots pretty well, 9 rounds and still there in a high guard (Canelo's high guard takes away probably 60% of your work and you have to watch for his vicious counters) returns fire, and can move Benavidez back on occasion even after Benavidez saw him from the first fight. This guy is literally a D- version of Canelo. Don't be fooled by Benavidez and the machine pushing him. Haymon is a turd, knew Andrade couldn't exchange with Benavidez in that tiny ring. Canelo will handle him just like Bivol handled Gilberto Ramirez. Gavril had amazing conditioning and gas tank, who could throw 800 punches in a fight and he actually took a major beating in that rematch and went to hospital with a concussion vs a 22 year old Benavidez. Canelo is much smaller, far inferior gas tank, and punch out put. Also is slower. I think he has nothing for Benavidez. That supposed great counter punching will shrivel up to nothing by round 3-4 once he gasses out and gets drowned. It will be a beat down for Benavidez.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSZdqAhJ0lM Garvil 2. Solid 168 fighter, not a 160-inflated pure boxer setup by Al Haymon in a straw-weight ring. Takes Benavidez shots pretty well, 9 rounds and still there in a high guard (Canelo's high guard takes away probably 60% of your work and you have to watch for his vicious counters) returns fire, and can move Benavidez back on occasion even after Benavidez saw him from the first fight. This guy is literally a D- version of Canelo. Don't be fooled by Benavidez and the machine pushing him. Haymon is a turd, knew Andrade couldn't exchange with Benavidez in that tiny ring. Canelo will handle him just like Bivol handled Gilberto Ramirez. Eh, I'm not disagreeing with your view on that fight, but believing that fight reflects anything about David now is a fallacy. Benavidez-Gavril took place in 2017 and 2018, when Benavidez was 20 and 21 years old. He popped dirty for cocaine after the 1st Gavril fight. To put it in perspective - Benavidez was 20 years old when he got flash KDd by Gavril. Canelo was also 20 years old when he gotten KDd by Jose Miguel Cotto (Canelo's 33 now, that fight was in 2010). Neither one of these mean a damn thing.

Erm.. Bivol is a technician. He has a career 50% KO ratio. He hasn't knocked anyone out in 5 years. Kovalev that Canelo fought was badly damaged. He had a 2 month camp and coming off 2 KO losses. He was moving well around the ring and shooting a ton of jabs, rarely throwing a power shot. I don't think those are good comparisons to David. Canelo has never faced someone like Benavidez - a bigger, younger, power puncher. I'm not exaggerating - David Benavidez is unlikely any other opponent Canelo has ever had. This would be a great cinco de mayo fight if Canelo accepts it.

So Bena is more like a Fernando Vargas? a very good Mexican fighter but not THE BEST MEXICAN I don't know what he is but he is not what they are advertising. Literally, a low-level boxer puncher can stand in front of him and trade with him. Lemiux - Shot 160 Dirrell - Shot Plant - Non-puncher Andrade - Blown up 160 in small ring On paper, Garvil is the worst but has the closest attributes to Canelo (counter punching out of a high guard) and he puts up the best fight and didn't die after 6 rounds. They are going to sell over 1.5 PPVs and he is going to give another Gilberto Ramirez performance. Always remember the words of Bob Arum - Boxing fans are like dumb rocks. You can kick them in any direction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSZdqAhJ0lM Garvil 2. Solid 168 fighter, not a 160-inflated pure boxer setup by Al Haymon in a straw-weight ring. Takes Benavidez shots pretty well, 9 rounds and still there in a high guard (Canelo's high guard takes away probably 60% of your work and you have to watch for his vicious counters) returns fire, and can move Benavidez back on occasion even after Benavidez saw him from the first fight. This guy is literally a D- version of Canelo. Don't be fooled by Benavidez and the machine pushing him. Haymon is a turd, knew Andrade couldn't exchange with Benavidez in that tiny ring. Canelo will handle him just like Bivol handled Gilberto Ramirez.

So you think Benavidez hits harder than Bivol. I wouldn`t say so. Bivol is fighting guys bigger than him. Benavidez is fighting guys smaller than him. Benavidez really belongs to 175. Than we will se how good he is. its not that he hits harder but his style puts more pressure on his opponent and wears them down. bivol is happy to just take a decision like he did against canelo. benavidez is going to be more relentless and guys like floyd/canelo do not like that style at all which is why historically they avoided that style in favor of better matchups for them, if the guy ages out of that style then they might take the fight and say "see i was always better" but thats just propaganda on their end when the truth is crystal clear why they didnt take those matchups at the time. canelo has already done this to ggg saying he was too small yet fighting at super middle before ggg...saying he was too small for beterbiev but fighting kovalev and bivol...making excuses not to fight benavidez the last couple years. benavidez has been #1 at 168 since 2019 and he hasnt fought him. this is just like marg/floyd where marg was #1 for 3-4 years and floyd kept figthing guys like ssharmba, zab off a loss, little guys moving up, etc.... if benavidez eventually loses...here come the canelo fans "see i told you he sucked" as canelo fights teeny tiny men and bums and keeps winning. wow great stuff...

The fight would be dictated by Canelo reflexes. If he still has him and counterpunches David well he will need to slow down his offense. Canelo is a good body puncher and there is a lot of real estate to hit on David. Benavidez some have mentioned already his advantages, big, strong, tall, active and young. One of the biggest fights in boxing right now.

I don't know that he does. Points in his favor are volume and endurance and youth, along with the physical reach advantage. If he's got a good chin, he can bank a few rounds early and force Canelo to fight at a higher pace than he's used to, and take it to him in the later rounds. If he's strong enough to push Canelo back, that may make a difference too. Points against him are permeable guard, and Canelo is a vicious counter puncher and body puncher. Canelo will crack him clean and hit him in the arms to slow that barrage down and take power, and commit to the body and drain the gas tank. He's also got massively more experience, with more than 3.5 times as many rounds in the bank. Another issue for him is that he's not the A-side. Even if he can take Canelo's power and edge Canelo in a close fight, he still likely doesn't win a decision, because boxing is corrupt. So he's got to stop a guy who's never been stopped or even tasted the canvas, or dominate him ala Bivol. Either way, this is the only fight to make at 168 that anyone should care about.

I'm more curious to see how Canelo's stamina holds up. We know he puts everything into every shot he throws, so how's he going to hold up when he has to continue to do that to keep David at bay? Sure, he likes it more when fighters come to him, but he's going to have to exert a lot of energy to keep him off and keep pace with Benavidez. David threw 49 less punches in 6 rounds than Canelo threw in 12 against Charlo. Canelo's output, even against overmatched opposition, has been pretty bad. We've seen him completely exhausted in the championship rounds. He doesn't have that extra gear and against David, I wonder how the second half of the fight would be. At this point, we can count out Canelo's chances of improving his stamina significantly enough. It's not going to happen at his age with that many miles on him.

canelo himself thinks benavidez would beat him, thats why hes been ducking him and flighting teeny tiny men. he even went up to 175 to fight a non puncher in bivol instead, that didnt work out too well but at least he didnt take a beating. guys that can beat you up and knock you out like prime ggg, beterbiev, benavidez just arent worth it. its the same floyd-marg floyd-cotto floyd-pac thing. you want to fight the guys you can steal decisions from even if they are better than you, like ggg or bivol(almost stole it) that way when you do lose it gives you plausible deniability and you can say oh i really won like canelo did against bivol which was laughable. getting ko'd is hard to deny although wilder tried with teh illegal gloves thing. So you think Benavidez hits harder than Bivol. I wouldn`t say so. Bivol is fighting guys bigger than him. Benavidez is fighting guys smaller than him. Benavidez really belongs to 175. Than we will se how good he is.

canelo himself thinks benavidez would beat him, thats why hes been ducking him and flighting teeny tiny men. he even went up to 175 to fight a non puncher in bivol instead, that didnt work out too well but at least he didnt take a beating. guys that can beat you up and knock you out like prime ggg, beterbiev, benavidez just arent worth it. its the same floyd-marg floyd-cotto floyd-pac thing. you want to fight the guys you can steal decisions from even if they are better than you, like ggg or bivol(almost stole it) that way when you do lose it gives you plausible deniability and you can say oh i really won like canelo did against bivol which was laughable. getting ko'd is hard to deny although wilder tried with teh illegal gloves thing.

everybody saying canelo is ducking benny, that benny would beat his ass, is all wrong for him etc will just light a fire under canelo and rev him up to take benny out in the ring, or maybe not I agree with your comment 100% or maybe not.