Why do people rate Filip Hrgovic so highly?

Again, I am not so sure that "top 4" beat everybody else. Your fantasy wins don`t count. Fury only beat Whyte, Wilder and Wallin, who was unranked than. Joshua lost to Usyk 2x, to Ruiz also. Wilder only beat Stiverne, Ortiz. Usyk only beat Joshua, Dubois. All these 4 have a lot to prove still. You told us how bad the top-4 are but the question was who else is better than them? Fury is a current undefeated HW champion Usyk is a current undefeated HW champion Joshua is a former HW champion who has defended his title multiple times Wilder is a former HW champion who has defended his title multiple times As I said, it is a top-4 so it is a relative term, not an absolute one. Who else can lay a claim that they deserve to be a top-4? Parker? Martin? Ruiz? And outside of Joshua, no one has been beaten by someone outside of this group but Ruiz has nothing else to show for. So, who's making fantasy fights here? ​

Till some actually rather than "arguably" beat him, he's part of the top 4. This is boxing and while skills count a lot, size and raw power remains a substantial asset in any combat sport. Ngannou is a big, strong man and a world champion...not just any ****ing UFC guy. And it is not the first time Fury has underperformed. And to be top 4, you have to be better than the rest which is a relative term, not an absolute one. Who else has the achievements of the top 4? Again, I am not so sure that "top 4" beat everybody else. Your fantasy wins don`t count. Fury only beat Whyte, Wilder and Wallin, who was unranked than. Joshua lost to Usyk 2x, to Ruiz also. Wilder only beat Stiverne, Ortiz. Usyk only beat Joshua, Dubois. All these 4 have a lot to prove still.

There is no top 4. Fury arguably lost to a f.ucking UFC guy. Till some actually rather than "arguably" beat him, he's part of the top 4. This is boxing and while skills count a lot, size and raw power remains a substantial asset in any combat sport. Ngannou is a big, strong man and a world champion...not just any f*cking UFC guy. And it is not the first time Fury has underperformed. And to be top 4, you have to be better than the rest which is a relative term, not an absolute one. Who else has the achievements of the top 4?

He probably wouldn't be had Joyce beat Zhang in the very first fight. Hrgovic managed to tough it out with the Chinese HW. That's what mostly in fans' minds.

Alright I’m done here I’ll let you have the last word because your such a little Mary , have fun trolling . :fingersx: Last word? Alright then. juggernaut666 is a puff who couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag! :rofl:

Flip is maybe overated by many, but the division is a bit unproven with everyone not having swappped dance partners. Usyk is good but hes not fought Fury or wilder and many others. Fury only fought Wilder. Lots of question marks.

Hrgovic has a better resume than Fury?! I wonder how to define it - is it hard, or it is easy to be a Fury hater? :peeright:

If you think he was given a gift decision that means you must think Ngannou defeated Fury which again means you have absolutely no idea how to score fights . I’ve already proven who I am on here you want me to do it again you moron ? I go at ppl who ask for it like I said your not fighter your a cheerleader so take a seat . Lol I could go on and on ragging on you and your own thread which a few have done to you on here ,one thing that’s absolutely funny when you create threads like this it always brings out the actual truths of a fighter and you’d think you learned your lesson by now the guy who says he’s been around a long time ,the guy who is you hasnt learned his lesson like a man child …and the icing on the cake your calling me old man when Fury looks about 20 yrs older then me ? is that you Fury ?Must be because just about everything you say is backwards logic and your avatar is a guilt of admission in itself as if your looking for a serious conversation when you yourself sabotage that just by having Fury as your choice ,even my cartoon character is more believable then that guy . :crazy: I'm happy with the answers I got to the question. Some decent posters in here giving their opinions, and I can respect that. My opinion hasn't really changed on Hrgovic though. I rate him, but he hasn't done enough to warrant the recent hype. Cry about it Juggy. As far as Fury goes, this thread isn't about him. You came in here angry chatting chat, and you're gonna leave angry chatting chit. You attempted to derail a thread and make it about things you like to cry about. But you got dealt with, with ease. You should try a different approach if you want people to take you seriously, in life and on this forum. Do keep us updated on your big BKFC fight in Philadelphia. Good luck working out what it is you should be doing in preparation! :rofl:

Hrgovic has a better resume now, than Fury did prior to his fight vs Wladimir Kiltschko. Chisora was never really spoken of as being destined for a World Championship title. You could see early on in Chisora career, the type of fighter he was 'Solid, game, a elite level journey man of sorts'. Hrgovic is a Olympic Bronze medalist, Fury did not even make any Olympic team 'And his best achievement as a amateur is being beaten by David Price over the distance'. Nobody rate Hrgovic super highly, but the fact is? Hrgovic is one of the top Heavyweights in the game currently. I personally would not rate Hrgovic along the top-4 heavyweights, but he is one of the top fighters in the chasing pack. Note: Only David Haye and Dillian Whyte have met Chisora head on and canceled out his moment. David Haye weighing in at 210 pounds, was the first fighter to knock Derek Chisora out 'Tyson Fury in comparison, even though Chisora is stylistically one of the best match ups for him? Has never decked or legitimately knocked out Derek Chisora'. I highlighted Fury's last fight vs Chisora as a concern 'Fury was unable to deck, and refused to fight a semi-retired miles out of condition Chisora head on. If the referee would not of intervened and manufactured a stoppage, Chisora most likely would of survived the full 12 rounds'. I have suspected that Fury form in his fights vs Wilder III, Whyte and Chisora III has been decreasing 'I have been one if not the only individual at least around here, who has continually highlighted and theorized this situation'. If Hrgovic was Fury's next opponent, you would be apprehensive 'I watched Fury's hardcore fans being all apprehensive for his fight vs Dillian Whyte, and celebrate as if it was some sort of all-time great victory. That type of behavior says a lot of what Fury's hardcore fans really believe about Fury's abilities and current form'. If you guys are ever honest with yourselves, deep down you all just want to protect Fury 'Maybe you know that he is there for the taking, in the right kind of stylistic fight. Threads like this are just one of the tactics Fury's hardcore fans use to demean a potential contender of Fury 'I was also again one of the first individuals to detect and charted this behavior on a mass scale'. Fury's hardcore fans will attack and demean the characters of Fury's potential contenders 'In order to devalue and eliminate them as being considered a actual threat. Once enough people agree or buy into those narratives created, Fury's hardcore fans act as if Fury has achieved some sort of mystical dominance within the Heavyweight Division. I could go on, but this is just one of the classic sociopolitical tactics used by hardcore Fury fans in this thread 'Other thread and the general boxing World'. Note: I am unsure whether you are fully aware of why you are using those tactics, I have not dismissed the possibility that you may have been influenced on some sort of level etc. Posters like W1LL are empty men in Fury's clown suits. I prefer to give the facts. The fact is Hrgovic is for now is one of the very few men in Ring Magazine's and Box Rec top ten ratings that is in his prime. Fury fans will shot down praise and attempt to destroy these fighters won't fight. I would absoltely love to see Hrgovic vs Fury. IMO Hrgovic would knock him out.

I think the general consensus is pretty fair - he’s an up and comer with some serious question marks He isn’t highly regarded or highly denounced. He’s just still a mild curiosity at the lower end of HW top 10

There is zero reason to rate anybody at hw very highly, to begin with. Give me one active heavyweight and I will sh.it on his resume. That is why I always laugh when casuals say Fury, who arguably lost to Ngannou is too good to fight Zhang and Hrgovic. Fu.ck of, all top 10 heavyweights are in the same class.

I don't get it either - Filip sleeps in the ring and doesn't really have any impressive victories. He is good, but nothing really impressive so far.

I didn't "Think" Big Mak beats Hrgovic... I "Said" Big Mak obliterates him, period ... The Hrgovic that fought Zhang wouldn't last 6 rounds... Makhmudov that had a hard time with Takam? Nah, Makhmudov is next Yoka I think. he will lose when he faces a living body.

Some guys here think Makhmudov beats Hrgovic. I didn't "Think" Big Mak beats Hrgovic... I "Said" Big Mak obliterates him, period ... The Hrgovic that fought Zhang wouldn't last 6 rounds...

Take no notice of the juggernuts of the forums hugh. I've followed Hrgovic since the David Haye camp where he gave a great account of himself and caused a buzz on the British amateur scene at the time. He is definitely a good fighter, personally, I wish he had been in some tastier matchups by now. We can argue all day about who ducked who, and why this or that never happened, but it doesn't change the fact he is missing out on being in the bigger fights. Anyone who would test him and answer some of the outstanding questions. Whyte, Bakole, Ajagba, Zhang II, Frank Sanchez, Jared Anderson? How can Filip go into fights with the Furys and AJ of the World, without this experience? His best win was against a Macedonian nobody's ever heard of before or since, and his next fight is against Mark de Mori. The same Mark de Mori who took a dive against a hamstrung David Haye nearly 8 years ago! Madness, and frustrating as a Boxing fan. Yes, I do think flips fortunate to be ahead of Zhang in fighting usyk or fury. Although I do think Zhang beat flip, I do consider flip good as he has a win over zhang and survived Zhang best punches, whilst Joyce couldnt. But I do think flips will do well against fury or even usyk

Hrgovic has a better resume now, than Fury did prior to his fight vs Wladimir Kiltschko. Chisora was never really spoken of as being destined for a World Championship title. You could see early on in Chisora career, the type of fighter he was 'Solid, game, a elite level journey man of sorts'. Hrgovic is a Olympic Bronze medalist, Fury did not even make any Olympic team 'And his best achievement as a amateur is being beaten by David Price over the distance'. Nobody rate Hrgovic super highly, but the fact is? Hrgovic is one of the top Heavyweights in the game currently. I personally would not rate Hrgovic along the top-4 heavyweights, but he is one of the top fighters in the chasing pack. Note: Only David Haye and Dillian Whyte have met Chisora head on and canceled out his moment. David Haye weighing in at 210 pounds, was the first fighter to knock Derek Chisora out 'Tyson Fury in comparison, even though Chisora is stylistically one of the best match ups for him? Has never decked or legitimately knocked out Derek Chisora'. I highlighted Fury's last fight vs Chisora as a concern 'Fury was unable to deck, and refused to fight a semi-retired miles out of condition Chisora head on. If the referee would not of intervened and manufactured a stoppage, Chisora most likely would of survived the full 12 rounds'. I have suspected that Fury form in his fights vs Wilder III, Whyte and Chisora III has been decreasing 'I have been one if not the only individual at least around here, who has continually highlighted and theorized this situation'. If Hrgovic was Fury's next opponent, you would be apprehensive 'I watched Fury's hardcore fans being all apprehensive for his fight vs Dillian Whyte, and celebrate as if it was some sort of all-time great victory. That type of behavior says a lot of what Fury's hardcore fans really believe about Fury's abilities and current form'. If you guys are ever honest with yourselves, deep down you all just want to protect Fury 'Maybe you know that he is there for the taking, in the right kind of stylistic fight. Threads like this are just one of the tactics Fury's hardcore fans use to demean a potential contender of Fury 'I was also again one of the first individuals to detect and charted this behavior on a mass scale'. Fury's hardcore fans will attack and demean the characters of Fury's potential contenders 'In order to devalue and eliminate them as being considered a actual threat. Once enough people agree or buy into those narratives created, Fury's hardcore fans act as if Fury has achieved some sort of mystical dominance within the Heavyweight Division. I could go on, but this is just one of the classic sociopolitical tactics used by hardcore Fury fans in this thread 'Other thread and the general boxing World'. Note: I am unsure whether you are fully aware of why you are using those tactics, I have not dismissed the possibility that you may have been influenced on some sort of level etc. Comical levels of nitpicking by a man who ruined himself betting on Wilder over Fury. You do identify as a man, don't you?

Tyson Fury was 23 years old when he had his 16th Pro fight, nowhere near his Prime. Whereas Hrgovic is in his Prime at 31 years old after 16 fights. Fury at 23 (Pre-Prime) had captured more belts than Hrgovic at the same stage and also boasted a better victory on his resume, a dominant UD over Dereck Chisora holding much more weight than a highly-contested decision over Zhilei Zhang. If you try to imply that Zhang is a better win than Chisora then I can't help you. Zhang has done nothing but expose Joyce and Hrgovic at this stage. Chisora was more hyped than Fury at the time and was talked about as a possible future World Champion. He still went on to make multiple World title attempts and has been in with Elite fighters, the only fighter who's been in with both Fury (3x) and Usyk. Has also fought Vitali Klitschko, Joseph Parker (2x), Kubrat Pulev (2x), Robert Helenius, Dillian Whyte (2x), Agit Kabayel, and Carlos Takam. Having reigned as British, Commonwealth, and European champion. You're going to say Hrgovic has a better win, aren't you? :rofl: Hrgovic has a better resume now, than Fury did prior to his fight vs Wladimir Kiltschko. Chisora was never really spoken of as being destined for a World Championship title. You could see early on in Chisora career, the type of fighter he was 'Solid, game, a elite level journey man of sorts'. Hrgovic is a Olympic Bronze medalist, Fury did not even make any Olympic team 'And his best achievement as a amateur is being beaten by David Price over the distance'. Nobody rates Hrgovic super highly, but the fact is? Hrgovic is one of the top Heavyweights in the game currently. I personally would not rate Hrgovic along the top-4 heavyweights, but he is one of the top fighters in the chasing pack. Note: Only David Haye and Dillian Whyte have met Chisora head on and canceled out his moment. David Haye weighing in at 210 pounds, was the first fighter to knock Derek Chisora out 'Tyson Fury in comparison, even though Chisora is stylistically one of the best match ups for him? Has never decked or legitimately knocked out Derek Chisora'. I highlighted Fury's last fight vs Chisora as a concern 'Fury was unable to deck, and refused to fight a semi-retired miles out of condition Chisora head on. If the referee would not of intervened and manufactured a stoppage, Chisora most likely would of survived the full 12 rounds'. I have suspected that Fury form in his fights vs Wilder III, Whyte and Chisora III has been decreasing 'I have been one if not the only individual at least around here, who has continually highlighted and theorized this situation'. If Hrgovic was Fury's next opponent, you would be apprehensive 'I watched Fury's hardcore fans being all apprehensive for his fight vs Dillian Whyte, and celebrate as if it was some sort of all-time great victory. That type of behavior says a lot of what Fury's hardcore fans really believe about Fury's abilities and current form'. If you guys are ever honest with yourselves, deep down you all just want to protect Fury 'Maybe you know that he is there for the taking, in the right kind of stylistic fight'. Threads like this are just one of the tactics Fury's hardcore fans use to demean a potential contender of Fury 'I was also again one of the first individuals to detect and charted this behavior on a mass scale'. Fury's hardcore fans will attack and demean the characters of Fury's potential contenders 'In order to devalue and eliminate them as being considered a actual threat. Once enough people agree or buy into those narratives created, Fury's hardcore fans act as if Fury has achieved some sort of mystical dominance within the Heavyweight Division'. I could go on, but this is just one of the classic sociopolitical tactics used by hardcore Fury fans in this thread 'Other threads and the general boxing World'. Note: I am unsure whether you are fully aware of why you are using those tactics, I have not dismissed the possibility that you may have been influenced on some sort of level etc.

His resume is solid as far as contenders go. both as an amateur and pro He gets bad press because of the zhang fight, buts lets be honest thst wasnt a robbery. He picked up late rounds when zhang tired. It was a close fight maybe should have gone the other way. Lets not also forget how many people ducked him in the number 1 ibf contender fight.

@ W1LL, You do not follow my rules, nor do you examine where the fighters were ranked at a similar amount of fights. Why would I follow your rules, when they're designed to hobble people who disagree with ya? Muppet! :rofl:

@ W1LL, You do not follow my rules, nor do you examine where the fighters were ranked at a similar amount of fights.