Aren't you guys amazed at how Tommy Fury has all those bro lift muscles and still punches like a feather?

He needs to holla at SugarHill. That's who taught his brother how to sit down on his punches. Power's about technique too, you know :rolleyes:

Not at all. All athletes train for what works best for their: • Sport • Position played • Personal style • Body type • Enhancement goals If body sculpture weight training was always the answer for boxing, they'd all have that look. But some do and some don't. Important to note that excessive resistance training can very often produce unwanted increases in muscle oxogyn need and decreases in stamina, speed, snap, and power. There is also a reputed correlation between excessive slow twitch musculature and "glass jaw syndrome".

Yes. I think you need those muscle fibers, connecting ligaments to move fast. Those fibers/ligaments in conjunction with strength equal your power and those fibers/ligaments might be more what is God given. Like I said, you can build up strength, but those little fibers, I'm not sure how you can. Can you take a slow Joe and train him on speed all day? Perhaps, but you might have to get him to sacrifice else where, to get the speed up (less heavy lifting, thus losing strength). Rather if he was born with those fibers and ligaments, that would allow him to stay strong and move fast without the need to sacrifice. The primary genetic factors for punching power are ligament attachment points and bone and muscle density. There's more than one type of strength. A lot of people these days have the misconception that slow oxidative is the determiner for strength. You can absolutely train for fast oxidative or fast glycolytic, and in any case, the most important aspect of power is the efficiency of your kinetic chain (technique) and placement and setup. Want to knock a guy out? Hit him with a punch he doesn't see. Need more power? Get your technique right when it comes to the efficiency of your movement. Many people can learn to significantly increase their power, just from learning to properly leverage the mechanics of power generation. There's a ton of ways to increase speed and power. Just has to be done right, and there's a lot of wrong old theories out there which get in the way.

As a puncher I can confirm this... There is a big correlation between strength and punching power. When I'm off training completely, I lose all My strength,.and curiously, My power goes bad too. ANd strenght is tightly linked to explosive muscle fibers so there is that connection too. Yes. I think you need those muscle fibers, connecting ligaments to move fast. Those fibers/ligaments in conjunction with strength equal your power and those fibers/ligaments might be more what is God given. Like I said, you can build up strength, but those little fibers, I'm not sure how you can. Can you take a slow Joe and train him on speed all day? Perhaps, but you might have to get him to sacrifice else where, to get the speed up (less heavy lifting, thus losing strength). Rather if he was born with those fibers and ligaments, that would allow him to stay strong and move fast without the need to sacrifice.

I believe power is strength+speed=power. Look at dudes at your local gym that are jacked but can't As a puncher I can confirm this... There is a big correlation between strength and punching power. When I'm off training completely, I lose all My strength,.and curiously, My power goes bad too. ANd strenght is tightly linked to explosive muscle fibers so there is that connection too.

I believe power is strength+speed=power. Look at dudes at your local gym that are jacked but can't lift heavy weights for sh!t. Perhaps they're more about high reps for the ripped look. It looks great for the ladies, but he might as well be a lady in a gym full of men. On the other hand, you got guys not looking ripped or cut up to death and they're lifting houses (Ah hem). The thing is, you can't just be strong (strength) and lack speed. You need the speed to move the strength to generate the powa. Some guys got more strength naturally than others. If you lack it, there are ways to supplement to build it up. Ultimately, you need to lift heavier though to get it up. The problem in boxing is you need the balance because you also really need speed.

- - Utuber Jake Paul knocked him down. Ought to take a mop up fight and retire undefeated to leverage his ill begotten Paul purse. Otherwise, he's how many KO losses accumulated before he can smell the daisies to leave a sport he's poorly suited for? ​​​​​​It's embarassing if he's boxed since he's a kid. He fights like some high roller off the English pub. His offense is completely home cooked, consisting of bullrushing in with arm punches.

His technique is bad. Doesn't sit down on his punches, weight transfer and acceleration are bad, etc. Muscles frequently don't mean power. It's gotta be the right kind of muscle and trained the right way. Shouldn't be a surprise, TBH, if you've either watched sufficient boxing or have a sufficient level of understanding of power generation. Why do you even care about Tommy Fury? It's not like his career is going anywhere. Says a lot that Jake Paul is his most notable opponent, and he's primarily known for being in a TV show, not for his boxing. - - Utuber Jake Paul knocked him down. Ought to take a mop up fight and retire undefeated to leverage his ill begotten Paul purse. Otherwise, he's how many KO losses accumulated before he can smell the daisies to leave a sport he's poorly suited for?

Timothy Bradley was yolked too, and he couldn't punch either You either have power naturally, or you don't. It's just one of those things tbh Yeah all that muscle is just for show. But it probably works against him

Timothy Bradley was yolked too, and he couldn't punch either You either have power naturally, or you don't. It's just one of those things tbh

His big brother looks like a tub of lard and can hit pretty darn good. These days yeah....Tyson Fury had a special power coach teaching him how to not fall over on his right hand.

"One" needs to go back to training then. Mass often comes at the expense of acceleration. If you don't know how to properly leverage your mass, it doesn't mean ****. I wrote a long post about it in one of the other sub forums. Mass doesn't come at any expense. It's all about genes and technique. You can do both and the best do. Tommy does neither. Ngannou has giant arms and still punches very fast.

His big brother looks like a tub of lard and can hit pretty darn good.

​​​​​​ I know but even with poor technique he should be able to muster better power by mass alone, one thinks. "One" needs to go back to training then. Mass often comes at the expense of acceleration. If you don't know how to properly leverage your mass, it doesn't mean sh*t. I wrote a long post about it in one of the other sub forums.

He has a big reach too lol...

Why do you even care about Tommy Fury? ​​​​​​I don't really. But I bet you he bulks up his arms to create the illusion that he can punch hard. Which he can't.

His technique is bad. Doesn't sit down on his punches, weight transfer and acceleration are bad, etc. Muscles frequently don't mean power. It's gotta be the right kind of muscle and trained the right way. Shouldn't be a surprise, TBH, if you've either watched sufficient boxing or have a sufficient level of understanding of power generation. Why do you even care about Tommy Fury? It's not like his career is going anywhere. Says a lot that Jake Paul is his most notable opponent, and he's primarily known for being in a TV show, not for his boxing. ​​​​​​ I know but even with poor technique he should be able to muster better power by mass alone, one thinks.

His technique is bad. Doesn't sit down on his punches, weight transfer and acceleration are bad, etc. Muscles frequently don't mean power. It's gotta be the right kind of muscle and trained the right way. Shouldn't be a surprise, TBH, if you've either watched sufficient boxing or have a sufficient level of understanding of power generation. Why do you even care about Tommy Fury? It's not like his career is going anywhere. Says a lot that Jake Paul is his most notable opponent, and he's primarily known for being in a TV show, not for his boxing.

fast twitch muscles and bone density, plus other factors, are the most important factor in having a powerful punch. Inflated muscles that gym bros and bodybuilders go for, is for show. Yup. But it is a fact that he throws shitty arm punches so he doesn't get as much mass as he could have

fast twitch muscles and bone density, plus other factors, are the most important factor in having a powerful punch. Inflated muscles that gym bros and bodybuilders go for, is for show.