Winning is THE top tier when it comes to protection. They get called pillows often. If you've heard people think they're not cushioned, they probably got fake knockoffs, not the real deal. I have never even heard of someone using Winning who didn't think they were very cushioned.
The guy said that they are not pillows and he doesn't understand why people think that. He had only good things to say about them..
You never answered the question. I asked how the padding compares to Everlast and you say it's different. This isn't rocket science. Is it a punchers glove, a hybrid, or for protection. I've heard different opinions on Winning so it's confusing. Some think it's very cushioned, others don't
Winning is THE top tier when it comes to protection. They get called pillows often. If you've heard people think they're not cushioned, they probably got fake knockoffs, not the real deal. I have never even heard of someone using Winning who didn't think they were very cushioned.
Because they ARE less common in competition. That's literally documented fact from commission data. Yes, they appear in some fights, even major ones. But you would have to do your due diligence to know that. Where do you get off questioning facts, especially when you don't even get anything straight? Floyd and Canelo wore Grant, not Winning. Winning is really obvious because it says WINNING on the back. You've made it abundantly clear that you don't know what you're talking about, and apparently you aren't interested in learning either.
You never answered the question. I asked how the padding compares to Everlast and you say it's different. This isn't rocket science. Is it a punchers glove, a hybrid, or for protection. I've heard different opinions on Winning so it's confusing. Some think it's very cushioned, others don't
So many variables to a guy getting knocked out, a hard puncher is a hard puncher no matter what gloves he wears I think the glove is of little consequence, they mainly choose gloves on fit and feel more than anything else, some gloves protect the hands better, punchers gloves is one of the cliques that media like to put out there, if there was a clear advantage to any particular glove everyone would use the same glove, its no difference than shoes its how they feel to wear them.
It's a trade-off. Horsehair gloves don't absorb as much impact for both puncher and punchee. But they also don't protect the hands and joints as well. Hybrid gloves strike a balance. Some gloves have more padding on the backs to protect the wearer more when they're being used defensively. Others have different curvature that distributes impact differently. I've used dozens of brands over the years personally and have gotten feedback from many fighters as well. There's a very clear difference between different types of gloves that you can feel pretty easily.
The gloves are absolutely different, and serve different purposes. You're right that no one glove does everything better. The reason everyone wears different stuff comes down to negotiations and preferences. Some people have more delicate hands and need more protection. Others want horsehair gloves. You look at the trends and many guys known for being "punchers" opt for Reyes, Everlast, etc. Canelo had to wear Grants vs Mayweather because of contract stipulations, just like there was a rehydration clause for that fight. Grants are a step below Winning for protection. Tank Davis likes to use Canelo's No Boxing No Life gloves in training but Floyd barred Davis from using them for fights because he felt Canelo was "rooting against him." Some guys will compensate for Winning gloves being more protective by stacking gauze.
I don't know where you get the notion that Winning is less common in competition. Canelo and Floyd wore Winning against each other.
Because they ARE less common in competition. That's literally documented fact from commission data. Yes, they appear in some fights, even major ones. But you would have to do your due diligence to know that. Where do you get off questioning facts, especially when you don't even get anything straight? Floyd and Canelo wore Grant, not Winning. Winning is really obvious because it says WINNING on the back. You've made it abundantly clear that you don't know what you're talking about, and apparently you aren't interested in learning either.
There's definitely some gloves that are better for power better because they use horse hair instead of or in addition to foam, which compress and transfer more energy. They're also less protective of your hands, so it's a trade-off. Reyes are the prime example. Winning gloves are the opposite generally. I really like the Winning gloves for sparring and bag work because they really take the impact out of your joints nicely. Treating your joints well makes for a longer career IMO, and a better life after you retire.
So many variables to a guy getting knocked out, a hard puncher is a hard puncher no matter what gloves he wears I think the glove is of little consequence, they mainly choose gloves on fit and feel more than anything else, some gloves protect the hands better, punchers gloves is one of the cliques that media like to put out there, if there was a clear advantage to any particular glove everyone would use the same glove, its no difference than shoes its how they feel to wear them.
But do you think the padding on Winning is at a similar level to Everlast? Which do you feel gave you more cracking shots?
Wilder used Everlast a lot. Probably because of the cushion to his hands
John Ryder has had his face smashed many times before, do you think that was the first time his nose was broken? Did Alvarez stop Ryder? No.
Alvarez is a solid good puncher with variation, but he is not a all-time great power puncher.
Golovkin is way more of a proven power puncher than Alvarez.
Ryder was picked as a stylistically easy match up for Alvarez, somebody that was tough and game but? Was there to be beaten up and stopped 'Alvarez never stopped Ryder still' etc.
I don't know where you get the notion that Winning is less common in competition. Canelo and Floyd wore Winning against each other.
They wore Grant against each other. Canelo's only wore winning against Golovkin in the first fight, as far as I can recall.
Hence why I suggested you try out the Ring To Cage Japanese gloves if you want to get a feel for how that style feels. Much less expensive, but the design is close enough to give you an idea if Winning is for you.
I don't know where you get the notion that Winning is less common in competition. Canelo and Floyd wore Winning against each other.
That's why I love them.
Winning Gloves are very expensive. I can't try em out. It's a big purchase for me, or a gift that I can wish.
Hence why I suggested you try out the Ring To Cage Japanese gloves if you want to get a feel for how that style feels. Much less expensive, but the design is close enough to give you an idea if Winning is for you.
Everlast is more of a hybrid glove. .
That's why I love them.
Winning Gloves are very expensive. I can't try em out. It's a big purchase for me, or a gift that I can wish.
They're different. You're trying to compare apples to oranges. Design matters. As I said, try them out, and you'll feel the difference in the impact. Everlast is more of a hybrid glove. Winning gloves are THE top of the line if you're concerned about protecting your hands and joints. But they're also correspondingly worse for impact. That's why they're less common in the ring, but more common in training.
Depends on where you are in your career and what you want from them. Winning is generally acknowledged to be the top tier for training gloves, especially by older fighters. I've personally had Reyes, Everlast, Rival, Fairtex, Top King, Revgear, Hayabusa etc in the past. Revgear gloves were terrible. They didn't usually last even a year. The others have their places depending on what you want. These days I use custom gear and Winning, mostly. I will say that if you want your gloves to improve your power that I personally think it's better improving power from improving technique and efficiency, and if you're going to use puncher's gloves, there's a different way to make a fist that will better protect your hands than the way that many places teach. If you want to try out the Japanese style, Ring To Cage makes a knockoff at a much lower price point that will at least give you a good idea about whether or not that style is for you. You'll likely feel the difference in where it places the impact immediately. Some people prefer to feel the jolt ride up into their elbows and shoulders. Makes them feel like they're punching harder.
But do you think the padding on Winning is at a similar level to Everlast? Which do you feel gave you more cracking shots?
Wilder used Everlast a lot. Probably because of the cushion to his hands
Are winning gloves padding level similar to Everlast?
Are they worth the price?
Depends on where you are in your career and what you want from them. Winning is generally acknowledged to be the top tier for training gloves, especially by older fighters. I've personally had Reyes, Everlast, Rival, Fairtex, Top King, Revgear, Hayabusa etc in the past. Revgear gloves were terrible. They didn't usually last even a year. The others have their places depending on what you want. These days I use custom gear and Winning, mostly. I will say that if you want your gloves to improve your power that I personally think it's better improving power from improving technique and efficiency, and if you're going to use puncher's gloves, there's a different way to make a fist that will better protect your hands than the way that many places teach. If you want to try out the Japanese style, Ring To Cage makes a knockoff at a much lower price point that will at least give you a good idea about whether or not that style is for you. You'll likely feel the difference in where it places the impact immediately. Some people prefer to feel the jolt ride up into their elbows and shoulders. Makes them feel like they're punching harder.
At no point of Alvarez's career has he ever been a power puncher 'This narrative is made up by his hardcore fans, and mostly the media'.
Alvarez is a solid puncher, with a multitude of punches 'His offense has variation and skill'.
Alvarez is not a all-time great power puncher, he simply does not have the feats of achievement to prove this.
Pacquiao pound for pound, is a way more destructive and powerful puncher than Alvarez 'You only have to look at how common opponents performed vs Pacquiao and Alvarez'. Pacquiao at 147 pounds was also not a middle weight, weight draining himself to fight at 147 pounds.
Khan, a Kovalev at short notice, Smith, Saunders, Plant 'So these are the fighters which Alvarez at Middle Weight to Light Heavyweight has knocked out or stopped'.
Carl Froch stops all of these opponents, possible in even more brutal fashion than Alvarez 'Many past great Middle to Super Middle Weights would also knock out these opponents of Alvarez's.
I am honestly not sure why people try to claim that Alvarez is a power puncher? A power puncher is somebody like Tommy Hearns, Julian Jackson, Nigel Benn, Prince Naseem Hamed, Deontay Wilder, Mike Tyson, Tommy Morrison, Donovan Razor Ruddock, David Tua, David Haye, George Foreman, Ernie Shavers, Gennady Golovkin 'Was also more of a power puncher than Alvarez at his peak and for the majority of his career'.
Are people trying to tell me that Canelo Alvarez pound for pound in terms of punching power is that level of puncher? There is no evidence, Alvarez has not performed the feats of achievement inside the boxing ring to be bestowed with this type of reputation.
Note: Alvarez has a effective and great offense all around 'His variation and range is elite'. But in terms of raw power and force, Alvarez has not been a power puncher at any stage of his career etc.
"Canelo Alvarez hit me so hard with an uppercut he broke my nose and I could feel blood in my throat"
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At no point of Alvarez's career has he ever been a power puncher 'This narrative is made up by his hardcore fans, and mostly the media'.
Alvarez is a solid puncher, with a multitude of punches 'His offense has variation and skill'.
Alvarez is not a all-time great power puncher, he simply does not have the feats of achievement to prove this.
Pacquiao pound for pound, is a way more destructive and powerful puncher than Alvarez 'You only have to look at how common opponents performed vs Pacquiao and Alvarez'. Pacquiao at 147 pounds was also not a middle weight, weight draining himself to fight at 147 pounds.
Khan, a Kovalev at short notice, Smith, Saunders, Plant 'So these are the fighters which Alvarez at Middle Weight to Light Heavyweight has knocked out or stopped'.
Carl Froch stops all of these opponents, possible in even more brutal fashion than Alvarez 'Many past great Middle to Super Middle Weights would also knock out these opponents of Alvarez's.
I am honestly not sure why people try to claim that Alvarez is a power puncher? A power puncher is somebody like Tommy Hearns, Julian Jackson, Nigel Benn, Prince Naseem Hamed, Deontay Wilder, Mike Tyson, Tommy Morrison, Donovan Razor Ruddock, David Tua, David Haye, George Foreman, Ernie Shavers, Gennady Golovkin 'Was also more of a power puncher than Alvarez at his peak and for the majority of his career'.
Are people trying to tell me that Canelo Alvarez pound for pound in terms of punching power is that level of puncher? There is no evidence, Alvarez has not performed the feats of achievement inside the boxing ring to be bestowed with this type of reputation.
Note: Alvarez has a effective and great offense all around 'His variation and range is elite'. But in terms of raw power and force, Alvarez has not been a power puncher at any stage of his career etc.