Uysk wouldn’t be a Heavyweight champion in the 90’s

If Mcall or Rahman KOd him Wilder could have Meh, what happened to them in the rematch ?

Mike Tyson in his prime would be a nightmare for any HW in history - for 5/6 rounds. If Usyk got up on his toes and moved like he did against Gassiev for the first half of the fight, he would definitely have a chance of against Mike. Sorry, but there is zero comparison between Gassiev and Tyson. Gassiev stands straight up, Usyk likes these kind of opponents (Joshua, Dubois). The few times Dubois showed head movement Usyk was missing his punches. (One time it was 5 or 6 punches in a row) Tyson had insane head movement ánd he would counter. In the Gassiev fight Usyk was engaging plenty in the center of the ring. You couldn't do this with Tyson and how would he evade all body punches for even 5/6 rounds? 1 body punch from Tyson could end it all and if not it would end your legs. Also, Usyk has the habit leaning left or right when he steps out with a high guard. Sometimes he leans too far and exposes sides. That's how he got caught against Beterbiev. Recipe for disaster against a prime Tyson. Just a reminder... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHNoRfz8Pt0 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eIWCdDL7Cy8

Mike Tyson would be a nightmare for Usyk in every single way. Usyk would be on the back foot for as long as the fight would last One of those signature Tyson hooks to the body and Usyk would go all Golota vs Tyson "Get me the **** out of here!" Mike Tyson in his prime would be a nightmare for any HW in history - for 5/6 rounds. If Usyk got up on his toes and moved like he did against Gassiev for the first half of the fight, he would definitely have a chance of against Mike.

Wasn't a problem when he was fighting at Cruiser though. Those guys were his size. Good point. Gassiev was a wrecking ball at CW and a prolific body puncher, but he didn't bother Usyk at all.

The Chisora fight is so overblown. Usyk had all sorts going on in the lead up with injuries, they fought in a ridiculous small ring that benefitted Chisora with that said he won a mere 3 rounds and was outboxed and beaten all around the ring and was out on his feet multiple times, stumbling around like a drunk & on the verge of being stopped. It wasn't Usyks best performance but way too much stock has been put into this fight. Bellew did as good if not better, Mchunu had decent success, Briedis did better than virtually all of them combined yet nobody is talking about these fights, analysing them or using them as a blueprint, why? Usyk fought all wrong against Chisora and learned real quick that he had to get bigger so he could be more physical with the heavyweights. He came in against Chisora thinking ( i suspect) that he could use long lines, an ambush strategy (like haye) and pick and choose his spots. The fights you mention and others show that Usyk depends on engaging, getting physical. The question remains if he could do this against a heavyweight like Tyson, Lewis, McCall even. Either he could and it might look like his heavyweight fights post Chisora, or, he would be forced to rely on his other skill sets and pick and choose his spots. He could not go back to being an ambush fighter, like he tried against Chisora. Haye and Wilder do this well because of their style. Both men have a big punch that Usyk does not. I don't think Uysk has the physical size... it is not about only weight... to fight successfully the way he can in this weak division.

Mike Tyson would be a nightmare for Usyk in every single way. Usyk would be on the back foot for as long as the fight would last One of those signature Tyson hooks to the body and Usyk would go all Golota vs Tyson "Get me the **** out of here!" Well Holyfield was able to physically push Tyson back on his heels and take the starch out of his shots, I agree in so far as, Usyk could not accomplish being physical enough to push Tyson on his heels. Usyk had problems with a big physical heavyweight when he fought Chisora, imagine Chisora with half a Tyson punch...

I don't know about the 90's per se. But to clarify: Uysk is no amatuer styled fighter. The Ukranian school of boxing relies heavily on footwork, angles, head movement and especially timing. Amatuer programs have different characteristics and hence relate very differently to professional boxing. For example, there are more generic Eastern European and Russian programs that blend into European amatuer programs as well... and these programs (we see a lot of them today) are abysmal. They are a renaissance of when fighters were stunted, seldom using the power hand, footwork was basically a step/stride and a jab, and fighters stood/stand straight up. Awful. As far back as the mid eighteen hundreds British and American trainers were decrying these templates as bad boxing. Then you have Cuban programs that merged with progressive Russian programs and have many technical skills associated with the style. But Ukranian fighters like Loma and Uysk learn to time head movements, to never throw a punch without moving off line, to reset immediately, etc, etc, etc... The other thing about Usyk is that he is a closet case... Watch how he fights when he really gets going he becomes a very physical fighter, LOma does also BTW, coincidence? Both men fight a lot more physically than people think when they ascribe a very technical style to either of them. They are both bullies (in a good way lol) when they can be... see Loma when he fought Rigo, see Usyk when he fought Bellew and Mike Hunter... With that said? I think Usyk would be much more limited during a time when the heavyyweight division was strong. His skill sets would have to support a lot more... So a great fight would be Usyk against a prime Holyfield. In a fight such as this, Usyk would not be able to muscle the btard maker, and Holyfield would land a lot. Could Usyk prevail? I don't think so... A great analogy to Usyk IMO would be one of the most criminally under ranked fighters ever: The great Philly heavyweight that wasn't from the mold... Jimmy Young. take away bad decisions and Young beat every great talent in the 70's when the division was at its best, and he did it as a technical fighter, like Usyk would have to do it. Young proved it was possible to finesse oneself past the murderer's row of big strong and great fighters like Lyle, Shavers, Norton and Foreman. Young imo was better than Usyk though... so who knows?

No one who had to fight Lennox Lewis would be a champion right now. If Mcall or Rahman KOd him Wilder could have

He'd most likely pick up a belt from somewhere, worse guys did in the 90s. But I dont think he'd be in the running for top HW of that era, nor would Fury. For one Lennox wrecks both of them. Even "past prime" 90s Mike could have been a serious threat to Usyk too considering Usyks weakness to body shots. Mike Tyson would be a nightmare for Usyk in every single way. Usyk would be on the back foot for as long as the fight would last One of those signature Tyson hooks to the body and Usyk would go all Golota vs Tyson "Get me the f*ck out of here!"

Because he wouldn't be able to beat guys like Michael Moorer, Oliver McCall, Bruce Seldon, Frank Bruno.....come on man. He'd be fighting guys his own size, and that would cause him to struggle? If Frank Bruno would catch him only one time, Usyk would have flown right across the ring and wouldn't get up. I don't thing you realize what an incredible brutal puncher Bruno was. His punch was once measured at 1,420 pounds, enough to accelerate his opponent's head at a rate of 53 g -- that is, 53 times the force of gravity.

He'd most likely pick up a belt from somewhere, worse guys did in the 90s. But I dont think he'd be in the running for top HW of that era, nor would Fury. For one Lennox wrecks both of them. Even "past prime" 90s Mike could have been a serious threat to Usyk too considering Usyks weakness to body shots.

The Chisora fight is so overblown. Usyk had all sorts going on in the lead up with injuries, they fought in a ridiculous small ring that benefitted Chisora with that said he won a mere 3 rounds and was outboxed and beaten all around the ring and was out on his feet multiple times, stumbling around like a drunk & on the verge of being stopped. It wasn't Usyks best performance but way too much stock has been put into this fight. Bellew did as good if not better, Mchunu had decent success, Briedis did better than virtually all of them combined yet nobody is talking about these fights, analysing them or using them as a blueprint, why? That fight was the last time Chisora actually trained and came into a fight 'With the intention of winning'. He was working with David Haye, Don Charles and had a great training Camp. Usyk beat one of the last solid versions of Chisora. And I know it is cliche, but styles do have a effect on the action within fights. Usyk is in terms of physicality is a old school Heavyweight, it is obvious that a fighter with Chisora's style 'Is going to perform differently vs Usyk than he would vs Fury'. Stylistically Chisora is a easy one of the easiest fights for Tyson Fury 'But stylistically it is a tough match up for Usyk at any stage of his career'. Tyson Fury has not actually fought any fighter who stylistically poses him a challenge. Wilder, Chisora, Whyte these are all fights which are stylistically easy for Fury 'Still Fury was decked and banged about by Wilder, which I think is concerning' The reason why I say it is concerning, is because apparently Fury is meant to be this genius type boxer skill for skill, if this is the case then why was he decked multiple times by Wilder and banged about? Great fights and trilogy, but objectively I honestly think Fury due to his overall clumsy and tendency to make unforced errors made that trilogy more difficult than it should of been 'Fury's defense these days is overrated'. None of these fighters skill for skill are great boxers, Fury out weighed Wilder by 30-40 pounds even when Wilder tried to body build himself up. Usyk to his credit is taking on fights, that are all stylistically difficult for him 'Joshua was a super Heavyweight with solid boxing skills, Chisora a durable strong extremely aggressive Heavyweight, and Dubois again another aggressive powerful punching Heavyweight'. Usyk may be finding his fights at Heavyweight difficult and a challenge, but he is testing himself in my opinion more than Fury 'His preparation coming into a potential Fury fight is better than Fury's'. Note: Most of Fury's fights have no correlation to fighting Usyk 'Fury has not actually fought another elite level Heavyweight in terms of technical skill since Wladimir Kiltschko' Wilder was a elite level fight, but not a elite level challenge in terms of pure technical boxing. Uysk in comparison in my opinion has been taking on fights which do have a correlation to fighting Fury 'Usyk has fought more powerful punchers than Fury, and he has fought a Super Heavyweight in Joshua twice who regardless of how people mock him? Joshua is a very capable boxer' etc.

It’s beneficial for him in this era that the Heavyweights are extremely tall with lack of skill because in the 90’s where the heavyweights were more skilled and shorter his body fragility would’ve prevented him from being a champion. What yall think ? No one who had to fight Lennox Lewis would be a champion right now.

Usyk's run in this weak HW era is less than stellar. Old Chisora gave him problems, and he needed a bias ref to save him against chinny heartless Dubois. His only prominent win is against another chinny heartless Brit. He would have all sorts of problems in the stacked 90s HW era. The Chisora fight is so overblown. Usyk had all sorts going on in the lead up with injuries, they fought in a ridiculous small ring that benefitted Chisora with that said he won a mere 3 rounds and was outboxed and beaten all around the ring and was out on his feet multiple times, stumbling around like a drunk & on the verge of being stopped. It wasn't Usyks best performance but way too much stock has been put into this fight. Bellew did as good if not better, Mchunu had decent success, Briedis did better than virtually all of them combined yet nobody is talking about these fights, analysing them or using them as a blueprint, why?

I dont think its a given he beats Moorer at all I didn't say it was a given at all. Explained why Moorer was on that list in the next post. Wasn't a slight on MM, he was just the smallest HW champ I could think of.

Speculation but head-to-head I think Usyk is or would be right up there. Its easy for fans to sit saying rough him up, he is weak to the body etc Like hundreds of elite fighters, huge punchers that have faced his style and similar many times haven't already tried. Its a lot easier said than done. We also need to take into account a vast number of intangibles like their vulnerabilities. This guy has the ultimate HW style and skillset to befuddle just about anybody. His style is a pain in the ar5e for any HW. He's fleet-footed, utilises angles, has a great engine and workrate. A granite chin, gets stronger as fights go. He has fast hands and throws in combination with a ton of variety. He is never static. The only real knock on him for me is I feel he could go to the body a little more as we seen with DDD when he started going to the body himself he soon broke DDD down. Its like no matter what he does he doesn't get his props there is always something else. Only a few yrs back these guys was telling us he was going to get killed by these ''super heavyweights of today''. Yet here he is at an advanced age, bamboozling the hell out of them and taking their souls. Making them look like the smaller guy who wants to quit from being beat up by the bigger man. - -Olympic gold medal heavy with a better pro record than heavy 26-10-2 Field, it’s a no brainer Usyk top fighter.

Because he wouldn't be able to beat guys like Michael Moorer, Oliver McCall, Bruce Seldon, Frank Bruno.....come on man. He'd be fighting guys his own size, and that would cause him to struggle? I dont think its a given he beats Moorer at all

I actually think Usyk has a good shot of beating Holyfield, I’d pick him to beat the 90’s version of Mike too. I don’t see him beating Lewis and I think Bowe would be a big problem for him too but depends what version of Big Daddy shows up.

Would definitely win a belt but wouldn’t be the top guy.

Easily wins a title in 90s. Division was trash a out of shape old foreman won a belt