The car accidents, the inactivity, the detached retina (which was for sure affecting his preripheral vision and depth perception). This wasn't the same Spence. Nice win for Crawford, but that wasn't prime Spence.
Spence isn't a great win, Spence was compromised. But bud will have another time, his day will come. If bud is no1 pf p like I hear some say he should be beating the bootsvennis and charlos of this world no problem.
And for bud supporters dont despair that the shine has been taken off the win, bud will have his day, the best is to come, don't be desperate for the spence win to be what it wasnt.
What people think before a fight doesn't mean minds can't be changed after, it's called hindsight
You gotta give Crawford full credit for beating Errol Spence Fam
Spence isn't a great win, Spence was compromised. But bud will have another time, his day will come. If bud is no1 pf p like I hear some say he should be beating the bootsvennis and charlos of this world no problem.
And for bud supporters dont despair that the shine has been taken off the win, bud will have his day, the best is to come, don't be desperate for the spence win to be what it wasnt.
What people think before a fight doesn't mean minds can't be changed after, it's called hindsight
Prime Spence wouldn't have made a difference. He threw everything and the kitchen sink at Bud and it didn't phase Crawford even the tiniest bit. I think this is one of those where Crawford has Spence number and it wouldn't change no matter how many times they fought. 154lbs won't make a difference either. I think Crawford puts him away sooner.
The car accidents, the inactivity, the detached retina (which was for sure affecting his preripheral vision and depth perception). This wasn't the same Spence. Nice win for Crawford, but that wasn't prime Spence.
Spence best win was against a shop worn Brook, who had a smashed orbital bone and had been in the equivalent of a car accident when he got forced into the ring with GGG. Spence was never that guy, guy.
But it's all connected, don't you see? I'm calling you out on your double standards.
So saying, you making up excuses for Spence, who was a top p4p boxer, undefeated, held 3 of the 4 belts, got knocked down and stopped by Crawford, is me having a double standard?
Let me pop some popcorn for this. This should be good.
How did Manny Pacquaio become a part of this discussion.
Stay focused we talking about your Spence is shopworn excuse
But it's all connected, don't you see? I'm calling you out on your double standards.
They’re both over their primes.
But Spence is a just a shell of his former self. Anyone who thinks he’s the same fighter before the major car accident, concussion, detached retina, slurred speech, war with Ugas….
is in denial.
And Pacquiao getting knocked out by Marquez sounds like a Pacquiao problem to me, homie. Yet your kind constantly use it as an excuse as to why he lost to Floyd. Apparently Pac forgot how to box after that.
How did Manny Pacquaio become a part of this discussion.
Stay focused we talking about your Spence is shopworn excuse
it’s not about getting carried away i’ve seen countless posts so far thankfully who are aware that it doesn’t matter what version of Spence showed up it’s clear he was never going to beat Crawford who has way more to his game
Spence was tailor made for him and the result would always be the same now or 2019 etc
The car accidents, the inactivity, the detached retina (which was for sure affecting his preripheral vision and depth perception). This wasn't the same Spence. Nice win for Crawford, but that wasn't prime Spence.
This wasn't Prime Bud either. He dominated Spence. No excuses.
ya cant keep making up excuses!! this is a great win for TC. the fact that he made it look eazy... ya can say what ya want about spence but ya know TC made that shiiet look eazy.
Was Floyd fighting the best? Clearly not. You can make an argument Spence is a better win than any Floyd win and you can make an argument Floyd had no top level wins since Castillo. 2 decades of mediocrity but the prime opponents aren't there by his choosing. Bunch of old shopworn guys. Crawford has been pummeling those type of Khan brook opponents. If he fought old guys for another 5 years surely he will be better than Floyd right
Now Spence better than Mosley, Oscar, Pacquiao, Canelo, Cotto, Marquez, Castillo, Maidina, etc. Seriously y'all need to lay off the crack.
I think prime Spence gives him a tough fight. Current version of Spence is a journeyman.
I think you're full of salt matey. Crawford fkd him up so bad that his face looked even worse than it did after the car accident, but a top 5 p4p fighter was entering the ring as a journeyman by your logic :lol1:.
How do you know he would be the underdog.
IMO and probably MANY bet sets he definitely be the favourite
This is good news for bud, if he is betting favourite he can theoretically be no1 pfp, as people are putting their money where their mouth is and have faith in him. But then bud would actually need to beat charlo, then it can go from theoretically being no1 to actually being no1
But Inoue is no1, as he has 4 titles in 4 divisions and people have even more faith in Inoue.
Inou e as betting favourite in first fight in 5th division, don't bet against it. Whether Inoue would win though is another topic
if anyone wants to use the exuse of Spence being shopworn(and I'm not letting them) then WHY THE F*K WERE 90% OF THE INTERNET PICKING HIM TO WIN???
Weren't most saying spence was overrated there's a thread saying such also by jake the boxer. If some had spence to win it was again because spence was overrated and yes bud underated.too. So it's a combination of both, spence being worse than we thought, and bud being better.
But don't go overboard on win. If bud is good he can show it in next fights, he's no1 WW now
nobodies getting carried away. If he stepped up to 154 he d be underdog, whereas inoue could step up another division and be betting favourite and win. Bud, not so much
How do you know he would be the underdog.
IMO and probably MANY bet sets he definitely be the favourite